Republican Majority leader blames troops

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What the Heck said:
Everyone who watched the speech agreed? Then how did it come out to be released in the news? Oh, I guess they weren't actually watching the speach.

So it's not everyone who watched the speach agress, but everyone from the far, far left who watched the speech (such as the New York Times) who agrees.
:rotfl: :rotfl2: Again, you are completely and totally WRONG. :rotfl: :rotfl2: Is Dick Armey from the far left?
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion...231459.column?coll=la-util-opinion-commentary
Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey explained the process during the Kerry flap even as he conceded that what Kerry said was just a slip-up. "It's pretty standard-fare political discourse," he told MSNBC's Chris Matthews on Tuesday. "You misconstrue what somebody said. You isolate a statement, you lend your interpretation to it, and then you feign moral outrage."
Dick Armey did not think that Senator Kerry was attacking the troops Neither did Mathew Dowd. http://mediamatters.org/items/200611010012
Dowd said, "I think John Kerry served in Vietnam very well, and misspoke and got jumped on." Matthews went on to specifically ask him, "Do you think Kerry was making fun of the troops?" Dowd responded, "Do I think that was his intention? No. I think Kerry supports the troops, and I think that he was a member of the military, and I don't think his intention was that. He said it badly and different people can interpret it different ways, but I think John Kerry's intention has always been in his own way to support the troops."
I also heard Andy Card say the same thing on the Today show. Again, everyone who listened to the entire clip knows that Senator Kerry did not thrash the troops but was trying get an insult off on bush.
 
TheDoctor said:
:rotfl: :rotfl2: Again, you are completely and totally WRONG. :rotfl: :rotfl2: Is Dick Armey from the far left?
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion...231459.column?coll=la-util-opinion-commentary Dick Armey did not think that Senator Kerry was attacking the troops Neither did Mathew Dowd. http://mediamatters.org/items/200611010012 I also heard Andy Card say the same thing on the Today show. Again, everyone who listened to the entire clip knows that Senator Kerry did not thrash the troops but was trying get an insult off on bush.


But, again, support-the-administration-no-matter-what Republicans like What The Heck will continue to deperately grasp at whatever straws they can get their paws on. :rolleyes:
 
What the Heck said:
Everyone who watched the speech agreed? Then how did it come out to be released in the news? Oh, I guess they weren't actually watching the speach.

So it's not everyone who watched the speach agress, but everyone from the far, far left who watched the speech (such as the New York Times) who agrees.
Again, here is more of the speech including the context that makes it clear that Senator Kerry was talking about bush and not talking about the troops.
http://video.johnkerry.com/video/flash/103106_countdown.html I know that facts will not matter to the conservatives but the claim that Senator Kerry was attacking the troops is just plain wrong
 

TheDoctor said:
Again, here is more of the speech including the context that makes it clear that Senator Kerry was talking about bush and not talking about the troops.
http://video.johnkerry.com/video/flash/103106_countdown.html I know that facts will not matter to the conservatives but the claim that Senator Kerry was attacking the troops is just plain wrong


Sorry Kyle but that video proves nothing. I don't see that his statement was taken out of context. If it was a botched joke, it was still a dig at the troops IMO. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Regardless of your constant attempts to belittle people into believing they're always wrong, in this case you are wrong because the "botched" joke is there for all to see. There is no context you can put it in to make it anything other than what it was. Kerry has a track record for trashing troops. He did it in the early 70's and he did it now.

So he said two jokes about Bush and the 3rd one was "botched"? Then why did he cave and apologize? If you don't believe you've done anything wrong, why would you say you're sorry? I wouldn't.
 
letterdavidman said:
But, again, support-the-administration-no-matter-what Republicans like What The Heck will continue to deperately grasp at whatever straws they can get their paws on. :rolleyes:
Excuse me? Support the Administration no matter what? Wow, there are plenty of facts in that arguement isnt' there? Lets decide that we are right and call people names if they disagree.

I am not desperately grasping at straws. I'm responding to a gross attack on the military I served for 10 years. From 1977 to 1987 I was in the United States Marine Corps - exactly when did you serve? Or you Kyle?

Kyle, thanks for the link. Because of that link, because I have now heard the full context of his speech, I can tell you that your left wing holier than thou arguemnt is full of crap. He is saying its about education. Guess what? Your hero forgot to mention that the President, although many think him stupid, does have a very superior education. So where does the stuck in Iraq go to him? Taking it in context leads a REASONABLE person, as long as they are not a Clinton apologist to believe that it was a strike at the troops, not the president.
 
TheDoctor said:
:rotfl: :rotfl2: Again, you are completely and totally WRONG. :rotfl: :rotfl2: Is Dick Armey from the far left?
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion...231459.column?coll=la-util-opinion-commentary Dick Armey did not think that Senator Kerry was attacking the troops Neither did Mathew Dowd. http://mediamatters.org/items/200611010012 I also heard Andy Card say the same thing on the Today show. Again, everyone who listened to the entire clip knows that Senator Kerry did not thrash the troops but was trying get an insult off on bush.
Wow, the LA Times has spoken. So the outright outrage that the troops feel, as those who have served in the past is not justified. We shouldn't be angry because we misunderstood, because we were too stupid to understand the joke when it's right in front of us.

Again, the spin from the left, "you are too stupid to understand, no matter how much you heard about it". No matter how you spin this, it comes back to the far left believing they are far superior to us riff-raff, who were too stupid to get a decent job so we joined the military.
 
What the Heck said:
Wow, the LA Times has spoken. So the outright outrage that the troops feel, as those who have served in the past is not justified. We shouldn't be angry because we misunderstood, because we were too stupid to understand the joke when it's right in front of us.

Again, the spin from the left, "you are too stupid to understand, no matter how much you heard about it". No matter how you spin this, it comes back to the far left believing they are far superior to us riff-raff, who were too stupid to get a decent job so we joined the military.
You really do not get it. The LA Times has a quote from Dick Armey. Obviously you are not aware of the Dick Armey is a conservative republican who was the House Majority Leader with Newt Gingrich. The other quote is from the republican who ran bush's campaign in the past. Again, Andy Card is not a liberal either.

Here is one more liberal who was able to see the speech and understand the context (something that is beyond you). http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=4653
Even Bill O’Reilly of Fox News got it: “I don’t believe that John Kerry meant to demean any American military member, I just don’t, and I think that fair-minded people know that would be political suicide for the senator and he wouldn’t do it.”
If someone as dense as Bill O'Reilly can get it, then you are in big trouble.

The NYT and a number of conservatives have all looked at the speech and were able to understand the context. Again, you are WRONG. You have been WRONG so often that it is really getting funny.
 
letterdavidman said:
But, again, support-the-administration-no-matter-what Republicans like What The Heck will continue to deperately grasp at whatever straws they can get their paws on. :rolleyes:
:rotfl: :rotfl2: He really does not get it. :rotfl: :rotfl2: It is really kind of sad
 
TheDoctor said:
:rotfl: :rotfl2: He really does not get it. :rotfl: :rotfl2: It is really kind of sad

Oh he gets it. He's just repeating the mantra in the hopes someone else won't.
The repugs have no ideas, their candidates suck, and they have to try something. It's the Repugs that think we're stupid. They think they can convince us that those who actually served when their turn came are anti troops and those that weaseled out aren't. It's everyone's fault except Bushco. It always is. And they don't care who they smear. But the American People know they're full of it.
 
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