Rep.Stark (D) Should apologize!

[DawnCt1]

I'm kind of sorry she did that, even though I do think the "amusement" line was over the top. By issuing that statement she gives credence to the idea that we should continue this competition of who can be more outraged about what was said this week.

I don't think it is unreasonable to expect some civility on the floor of the House and Senate. This has been a do nothing congress and senate, and the Republicans have been effective blocking ridiculous entitlements and restrictive bills. A defense is important and necessary, however, I would like to see the Republicans grab their own ball and move it down the field.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

I'm kind of sorry she did that, even though I do think the "amusement" line was over the top. By issuing that statement she gives credence to the idea that we should continue this competition of who can be more outraged about what was said this week.

Actually I think she showed what a levelheaded person she is and that outrageous words detract from the discussion. She gives her position more credibility in my opinion.

 

[Fitswimmer]

I don't think it is unreasonable to expect some civility on the floor of the House and Senate. This has been a do nothing congress and senate, and the Republicans have been effective blocking ridiculous entitlements and restrictive bills. A defense is important and necessary, however, I would like to see the Republicans grab their own ball and move it down the field.

They had their chance to do that Dawn, and they dropped the ball. They could have taken the lead on a lot of things while they had the majority and they settled for doing nothing.

Now, this Congress is no better, but they have at least a partial excuse in that they don't have a veto proof majority-but that problem will likely end soon.

I'll admit that part of me is not looking forward to it ending, because it means that we as a country are going to have to face reality and that reality is going to hurt. My wallet is already bruised from the higher energy costs and higher local taxes, higher federal taxes are really going to curb my lifestyle.

 

[Fitswimmer]

Actually I think she showed what a levelheaded person she is and that outrageous words detract from the discussion. She gives her position more credibility in my opinion.

But she also gives the Outrage of the Week drama more credibility and that we really don't need.

I'm getting really sick of watching both sides try and compete for who can be the most outraged about whatever dumb thing someone on the other side said.

 

[Kathi OD]

This isn’t about supporting the war or supporting the troops. It’s about the rep saying the president finds soldiers deaths amusing. I guess all of you that have come in and added your “he’s right! I agree with him!” also believe Bush enjoys watching our children die in war. It’s sick really (to believe he would find this amusing). Agree with the war or not, you can’t seriously believe Bush enjoys watching soldiers get blown apart (or, as demonstrated by this thread, perhaps you can…). I’m can’t say I’m surprised with many of the responses though, considering the current political attitude on the DIS.

It was inappropriate for him to state that the President gets amusement from our soldier's heads being blown off, BUT to focus on 4 words (for the President's amusement) out of a 2 minute statement and claim that was the message he was trying to get across is one of the most inane things I've ever heard. I could understand the outrage if Rep. Stark went on for the entire, or even 1/2, of his statement backing up his claim of the President's amusement, but he didn't. It was FOUR POORLY CHOSEN WORDS out of many. If that's all you heard...well....then I just don't know what to say, because it certainly wasn't the thrust of his statement.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

But she also gives the Outrage of the Week drama more credibility and that we really don't need.

I'm getting really sick of watching both sides try and compete for who can be the most outraged about whatever dumb thing someone on the other side said.

Yes, but her stepping up that way can also quiet the whining quicker than it would have otherwise. Except for the true radicals that will find anything to get outraged over, she takes the steam out of it for many.

 

[Fitswimmer]

Yes, but her stepping up that way can also quiet the whining quicker than it would have otherwise. Except for the true radicals that will find anything to get outraged over, she takes the steam out of it for many.

I really hope you're right.

 

[basas]

It was inappropriate for him to state that the President gets amusement from our soldier's heads being blown off, BUT to focus on 4 words (for the President's amusement) out of a 2 minute statement and claim that was the message he was trying to get across is one of the most inane things I've ever heard. I could understand the outrage if Rep. Stark went on for the entire, or even 1/2, of his statement backing up his claim of the President's amusement, but he didn't. It was FOUR POORLY CHOSEN WORDS out of many. If that's all you heard...well....then I just don't know what to say, because it certainly wasn't the thrust of his statement.

Well lets all remember that the next time someone makes a 45 minute long speech and makes the ‘poor choice’ to say "I hate black people" at the end. The point is that it doesn't really matter what percentage of the speech the words make up, or even how long the speech is. Inappropriate is inappropriate.

 

[LakeAriel]

Well lets all remember that the next time someone makes a 45 minute long speech and makes the ‘poor choice’ to say "I hate black people" at the end. The point is that it doesn't really matter what percentage of the speech the words make up, or even how long the speech is. Inappropriate is inappropriate.

His inappropriate words won't kill 4,000 troops and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's. Move on to more important things, like the illegal war we can't get out of.

 

[Kathi OD]

Well lets all remember that the next time someone makes a 45 minute long speech and makes the ‘poor choice’ to say "I hate black people" at the end. The point is that it doesn't really matter what percentage of the speech the words make up, or even how long the speech is. Inappropriate is inappropriate.

I'll agree that it was inappropriate, but to intimate that those 4 words summarized the entire speech is not only misleading, but wrong. Similarly, if someone made a 45 minute speech about the need for our country to do something about the rising cost of energy products and then ended it as you proposed, those words would still be inappropriate (and I would suggest much more so than what Rep. Stark said), however to imply that the whole speech was about hating blacks would be inaccurate and wrong.

 

[basas]

His inappropriate words won't kill 4,000 troops and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's. Move on to more important things, like the illegal war we can't get out of.

Illegal to who exactly?

I'll agree that it was inappropriate, but to intimate that those 4 words summarized the entire speech is not only misleading, but wrong. Similarly, if someone made a 45 minute speech about the need for our country to do something about the rising cost of energy products and then ended it as you proposed, those words would still be inappropriate (and I would suggest much more so than what Rep. Stark said), however to imply that the whole speech was about hating blacks would be inaccurate and wrong.

Ok, but where did anyone say that his whole speech was about the President finding deaths amusing? We said that that particular comment was inappropriate

 

[transparant]

While members of Congress are passionate about their views, what Congressman Stark said during the debate was inappropriate and distracted from the seriousness of the subject at hand—providing health care for America's children," Pelosi said.

Weak rebuke - but nontheless rebuked.

 

[LakeAriel]

Illegal to who exactly?

George Bush attacked the sovereign nation of Iraq saying it was a national security issue. He said Hussein had WMD's and was building nuclear weapons. Remember the mushroom cloud image we were shown over and over? Then there was the intimation that Hussein was linked with AlQaeda. All lies. Isn't that illegal to attack a nation without cause? Shock and Awe and all that?

 

[yeartolate]

I'm kind of sorry she did that, even though I do think the "amusement" line was over the top. By issuing that statement she gives credence to the idea that we should continue this competition of who can be more outraged about what was said this week.

 

[Kathi OD]

This isn’t about supporting the war or supporting the troops. It’s about the rep saying the president finds soldiers deaths amusing. I guess all of you that have come in and added your “he’s right! I agree with him!” also believe Bush enjoys watching our children die in war. It’s sick really (to believe he would find this amusing). Agree with the war or not, you can’t seriously believe Bush enjoys watching soldiers get blown apart (or, as demonstrated by this thread, perhaps you can…). I’m can’t say I’m surprised with many of the responses though, considering the current political attitude on the DIS.

This post is the one that led me to believe that you were talking about his entire statement. If that is not the case, then I apologize!

 

[basas]

This post is the one that led me to believe that you were talking about his entire statement. If that is not the case, then I apologize!

That’s OK. What I was referring to in the other post was people going on about how “you don’t have to support the war to support the troops”, etc as if we (myself, Dawn, whoever else) were calling him a traitor for being against the war. We weren’t- we simply thought the comments he made about the president were inappropriate.

 

[Charade]

Like phony soldiers?

It can't be a gross mischaracterization to call those men who claimed to be in places they weren't phony soldiers .

 

[Beca]

The Shrub is stupid...

Okay....that is my new FAVORITE nickname!!!

As for me...I am still waiting for "the shrub" to apologize for getting us there in the first place (and lining his oil-rich pockets off this whole fiasco).....and then, all other citizens who have apologies to make can just line up after our "honorable" leader.

 

[LakeAriel]

Okay....that is my new FAVORITE nickname!!!

As for me...I am still waiting for "the shrub" to apologize for getting us there in the first place (and lining his oil-rich pockets off this whole fiasco).....and then, all other citizens who have apologies to make can just line up after our "honorable" leader.

I like this idea.

 

[BelleBoo&AmisMum]

Yep, Bush is killing them all. The terrorists are innocent.

I guess FDR killed 450,000 American soldiers (plus civilians) -- the Germans and Japanese had nothing to do with it.

You are not seriously comparing world war II to the current occupation in Iraq are you? Can you not see the HUGE glaring differences between the two through the smoke and mirrors they're trying to use on the American people.

Iraq did not attack us on 9/11 - there was NO connection between the two. If after Pearl Harbor FDR had decided to attack Spain instead of those that attacked us, would that have been ok with you? Spain was friendly with Germany and Japan, but they had nothing to do with Pearl Harbor, it's the same thing we have today.

I do think Saddam was a horrible man, I think he was dangerous to the region and the people of Iraq. But I do not believe he was a direct threat to the US at all.