Remember the Hudson River plane crash?

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MARYVILLE - Almost four months after their plane settled gently onto the surface of New York's Hudson River, the survivors got their crash-in-a-box.

Vallie Collins and Debbie Ramsey, who were among 155 passengers and crew members who survived U.S. Airways Flight 1549's watery Jan. 15 landing, got to relive the experience as they opened boxes that contained their luggage, its contents and their carry-on belongings. The items were recovered from the jet, which ultimately filled with water, and were cleaned by a restoration company.

The crash caused both Blount County women to take time off from work. One subsequently lost her job.

Both have been in counseling. Both have re-examined their priorities.

They say opening the boxes brought back a range of emotions, from excitement about regaining treasured items to sadness and distress as they again viewed their boarding passes.

Ramsey, a resident of the Seymour area, said she looked on as her husband, Jerry, opened the boxes the night they arrived via FedEx on May 8.

"I probably would not have opened them for a while if Jerry were not here," said Ramsey, 49.

On the other hand, Collins, 38, let the boxes remain sealed in her Maryville home for 11 days, not because of any particular anxiety but because she was at the beach when they arrived and just had other things to deal with.

Inside their boxes were clothes, luggage - the typical possessions of travelers, all cleaned and dried and restored as much as possible to their original condition, including photographs, purses, wallets, Social Security cards, driver's licenses, business cards and much more.

Some items did not come back, including cosmetics and other toiletry items that apparently were considered contaminated by the Hudson's less-than-pristine waters.

But Ramsey and Collins did get a careful inventory of everything, including the nonreturnable "perishables."

Collins said the listing even included the wrapper off an energy bar. She'd eaten the snack before the flight and stuffed the wrapper in her purse.

The list also included five Q-tips. The airline didn't return them.

Ramsey's items included the brush and applicators for her cosmetics, but not the makeup itself.

Both said that neither they nor any other survivors they have been in contact with got their folding cash back. Coins, yes. Some even got British pound notes back. But no dollars in any denomination.

Collins said passenger belongings were retrieved by a recovery company that then sent them to another company that specializes in cleaning, drying and restoring the items.

She said that in one phone conversation with the company, the representative told her that company employees felt really good about this endeavor because they got to return the items to those on the flight. Most often, they return them to grieving family members.

Ramsey was most grateful for the return of a T-shirt and hat she bought at a New York M&Ms store for the grandson she dotes on and whose cell-phone photo she was gazing at as the Airbus was going down. Her most disappointing loss was a pair of glasses.

For Collins, she got back a prized pin that her husband, Steve, had a North Carolina company make for her. He had taken a "drawing" done by their daughter, Addison, when she was a toddler and had it made into a pin, which Collins wore on her coat.

She lost, though, a company-owned BlackBerry on which she had texted her husband, "My flight is crashing."

In the months since the crash, both women have been dealing with a form of post-traumatic stress disorder. Collins said her mental health therapist likened it in intensity to what a soldier experiences in combat, but with a time frame that is very compressed.

Collins went back to work for Tapemark almost immediately after the crash, even getting back on airplanes. But, she said, toward the middle of February, she began to feel "overwhelmed and weepy" and she has been on a leave of absence since mid-March, trying to reorder being a wife, mother of three youngsters and factoring in some "down time."

Ramsey, who was on a buying trip for New York New York, the clothing retailer she worked for, took some time off before returning to work at her Sevierville store for a couple of weeks. But the nightmares, which she still experiences, and other factors led her to take more time off on the advice of her psychiatrist. Two weeks later, she got an e-mail from her boss saying she had been replaced in the job she adored and which had placed her on Flight 1549 in the first place.

All in all, though, the crash experience has helped her rearrange things in her life, and she has returned to regularly practicing her faith, now at Redemption Church International in Knoxville.

She still routinely writes in her journal, which she some day will pass along to her grandson, Jack Ramsey. And, Ramsey says, after her ordeal in the frigid waters of the Hudson, she now has trouble staying warm, even inside her home with summer approaching.


http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/may/21/052109survivors/
 
Some items did not come back, including cosmetics and other toiletry items that apparently were considered contaminated by the Hudson's less-than-pristine waters.

I'm frankly surprised anything was returned after a dipping in the Hudson. :eek: After being submurged with all the dead bodies tossed in there & whatnot, I don't think anything could be made clean enough. :scared:


As for the passengers still having post traumatic stress, how sad. The rest of the world thinks of this flight as an eventual success story, yet the passengers are still reliving the nightmare of it. :sad1:
 
I'm frankly surprised anything was returned after a dipping in the Hudson. :eek: After being submurged with all the dead bodies tossed in there & whatnot, I don't think anything could be made clean enough. :scared:
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As a former New Yorker I take exception to your comments. Not only are they untrue ( New York in fact has one of the lowest crime rates for a major city....especially per capita.....and the Hudson River is a hot bed for bass fishing as seen on some cable networks. I feel that on a board such as this which is read by people country and worldwide that you are giving your (and my former) city an unjust reputation. New York is a wonderful, wonderful city. I am extremely happy here in the Keys, predominantly because of the weather, but I have nothing but great memories of my time in N.Y.
I think the response by the ferry boats in the Hudson river to this event supports my feeling that New York and New Yorkers are AOK:thumbsup2 (and some kudos to the New Jerseyans as well)
 
It's good to remember what those survivors went through. I find it very sad that the one company fired the woman. If I had been in a crash like that, I would have had a hard time as well. That man should be ashamed of himself. :rolleyes:

It's nice that they were able to at least get some of their treasured items back.
 

Do you know how many types of medical innoculations someone needs after they have fallen into the Hudson River or if a marathon swimmer plans to swim around the island?
 
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:lmao::rotfl::rotfl2: Thanks for the laugh today! :lmao: :rotfl2: :lmao: :rotfl2:

Do you know how many types of medical innoculations someone needs after they have fallen into the Hudson River or if a marathon swimmer plans to swim around the island?

And if you take such exception to an actual current resident who's lived here most of her life, talking negatively about NYC, then it's a good thing you moved away. Don't turn on the local news when you come back to visit. We have a verified swine flu death, about 100 confirmed cases reported and at last count about 11 city schools closed. That was reported worldwide on the AP news. Not on some message board. I kind of think that overshadows any talk about about what's floating in the Hudson and has sullied my city's fair reputation a lot more. ;) And don't watch Law & Order. We locals speak however we like about our city all the time. The city can take it. It doesn't get it's feeling hurt. ;) For all the great this city has, it isn't some fairyland to be in denial about - especially now. :eek: :rolleyes:


I moved away less than a year ago so your use of italics to highlight "locals" or "current residents" fails to impress me. I moved because my family moved.
New York has a high incidence of swine flu for obvious reasons. High population and one of the busiest air hubs in the world. I believe the nations swine flu deaths are now in double digits whereas the typical flu kills somewhere around 60,000 Americans annually.
If you are so miserable perhaps you might consider a move. And BTW Law and Order is not a reality show.
 
From the comments on the web story... maybe the lady who was fired by the dept. store filed a worker's comp lawsuit - that would explain her employment termination.

My dh stopped at a convenience store about a month ago, for coffee or whatever, he met the one who worked for NYNY - I think she will eventually tell her story, from his conversation with her.
 
Hi Tina!
Thanks for posting this. It was not in the Times. How wonderful they survived this horrific crash but how sad that PTSD goes along with that survival. I hope they are seeking help of really good people while dealing with PTSD and that overtime, the nightmares will lesson.
It is sad the lady was let go from her job. So, filing the WC may have triggered that? I am not sure how that kind of thing works. Is that fair? It doesn't seem like it. I'm really asking because I don't know. I mean if I go to Sevierville to shop and see NYNY store there, right now I wouldn't buy anything and I might even tell them they should have been nicer to the lady in the crash. (like they'd care, but still...)
 
The cash was probably turned in to the FED to replace - I'm sure it was considered contaminated.

Buckalew, Although the lady couldn't be fired "because" she filed a WC claim, if she filed a claim, I'm sure they would have looked at her performanace/attendance, etc. more closely. Playing devil's advocate, as a small business employer, even if one of our employees had been in the same situation, especially a key employee, which she seemed to be, we would need them to come to work afterward - couldn't hold their job while they went through counseling, etc.

I've been to the NYNY store here (it's at Tanger Five Oaks) - have bought a few things before, but their stuff is best described as "cheap trendy", for the most part, kind of like Forever 21. I can easily buy anything I would have bought from them somewhere else, and I will.
 
I feel so badly for both of those women. I can only imagine what they are going through.

I have PTSD from a car accident I had in 2002. It's something that never totally goes away. It gets better but it is always there and I have certain triggers that bring it back.

Shame on the employer who let the one woman go because of her PTSD. That is just disgusting since she was on a business trip.
 
As a former New Yorker I take exception to your comments. Not only are they untrue ( New York in fact has one of the lowest crime rates for a major city....especially per capita.....and the Hudson River is a hot bed for bass fishing as seen on some cable networks. I feel that on a board such as this which is read by people country and worldwide that you are giving your (and my former) city an unjust reputation. New York is a wonderful, wonderful city. I am extremely happy here in the Keys, predominantly because of the weather, but I have nothing but great memories of my time in N.Y.
I think the response by the ferry boats in the Hudson river to this event supports my feeling that New York and New Yorkers are AOK:thumbsup2 (and some kudos to the New Jerseyans as well)

I love NY, but I have to agree with Imzadi.

Hopefully the bass fishing is catch and release.:scared:

I can go fishing right here in Brooklyn, but that doesn't mean I'm going to eat anything I catch.
 

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