Refuse to give Disney your Finger-print?

[SlightlyGoofy]

I am perfectly willing to let Disney try to take my fingerprints. I figure if the US Government has never been able to do Disney cannot either. They gave up about a dozen or so tries. I have very smooth fingertips and possibly they do not register.

I sort of doubt that the finger scanners do all that are said to do, sort of like when you sign for a credit card receipt. JMO

Slightly Goofy/who is sad to see my favorite folks fighting, ALL of you!

 

[LadyGracey]

Considering the continuing conflict over this issue two years later, maybe Disney needs to put something in writing about how they use (or don't use) the info...transparency goes a long way to building public trust. Put it in the park map or something. Then the CMs can avoid questions (and we can avoid arguing).

And I even managed to make the start of the first sentence alliterative.

Oh, Robo, what have you done?!

 

[WDSearcher]

Considering the continuing conflict over this issue two years later, maybe Disney needs to put something in writing about how they use (or don't use) the info...transparency goes a long way to building public trust. Put it in the park map or something. Then the CMs can avoid questions (and we can avoid arguing).

Disney has. Many times. There have been many press articles and press pieces done on the scanners, what they actually scan, how the info is used and why Disney went to that process. They also point out that it is the same technology used throughout the US for everything from home safes to credit card security to medical record access. The information is out there if someone wants to find it. To "put it in the park map or something" calls far more attention to it than it deserves. It would be like your drivers license including a paragraph on why they ask for a photo. If Disney was getting enough Guest Letters or e-mails about "what are you doing with my finger print", they'd issue more info. Since they haven't done a huge info push or spent a lot of time and money reassuring their guests, I think we need to figure that a handful of posts on the DIS probably isn't representative of the Disney guest population as a whole.

IMO, anywhoo.

 

[Planogirl]

Some of this is quite amusing. Keep in mind that no one is perfect and no one knows everything either. That was quite apparent to me just recently in fact.

I didn't care for the bumping of an ancient thread for no reason either but I just ignore such things and move on. I do know that the amount of irritation some people feel when such things happen does seem to decrease if it's certain DISers that do it. That makes no sense at all because it's either annoying or it isn't. Being an "expert" doesn't change a thing.

 

[WDSearcher]

Those are the two most unbelievable responses that I have ever read. Robo knows more about Disney then the top executives do. He certainly has forgotten more about Disney then most of us will ever know. He is always helpful, humorous and patient. Yet, here you come up with that hog wash. Shameful!

See ... this is the kind of thing that does kind of bug me. Robo's great. Yes. But he is not all-seeing or all-knowing. He does not know more about Disney than the top executives do. And he's not always helpful, humorous and patient. For example ... he ressurected this thread because he was getting tired of answering the same questions over and over (based on his post). So ... not really patient at that point. And the fact that he ressurected a controversial thread for his own amusement ... not particularly helpful. Humorous? Maybe. But if someone less popular here had brought back an argumentative thread just for giggles, I suspect they'd have received a different reception.

I think the guy is great -- I love his maps (mostly ... sometimes they just take up WAY too much thread space!), I think he has a lot of Disney knowledge, and I think he shares a lot of his knowledge with great generosity and often with a clever turn of phrase. But so do dozens of other folks here, who never get half the props he does for doing the exact same thing.

 

[2infinityandbeyond]

I think it's cute when someone challenges the self-proclaimed "in crowd" and the other self-proclaimed in crowd members come running to their defense. I've seen some downright rude and/or trollish comments from a few of those in that "generally helpful" list. Regardless of post count, registration date or status as a WDW CM, if you're out of line you deserve to be called on it.

 

[doconeill]

I just want to say, in hopefully my last (at least OT) post in this thread (I really had hoped it got closed), is that I think it is absurd to assume that the "experts" somehow have immunity on these boards. Does anyone know that Robo didn't get reprimanded, or got "points"? Just because he's still posting does not mean it didn't happen.

I've been notified on a few occasions when I've not properly followed the rules.

 

[disneynutz]

Seems like threads take on this tone when the weather turns cold and rainy. Maybe we should watch more TV?

Bill

 

[LadyGracey]

Sorry if I was vague..."or something" is not my best work. My English teacher would've killed me

I wasn't aware that Disney themselves had published this information anywhere. Maybe it's just not getting read...
And now back to our regularly scheduled program!

 

[doconeill]

Sorry if I was vague..."or something" is not my best work. My English teacher would've killed me

I wasn't aware that Disney themselves had published this information anywhere. Maybe it's just not getting read...
And now back to our regularly scheduled program!

Oh, it's getting read. There are those who do not believe it. The ACLU doesn't like the idea of ANY information gathering, but they don't seem to scream as loudly about all the credit card data mining that gets done every time you charge a stick of gum at the gas station, etc.

Yes, the technology exists to take a full fingerprint scan, run it for matches in a gigantic database, determine you are wanted for an unpaid parking ticket and notify the authorities.

That technology is expensive, slow and not what Disney needs. Disney only needs to be "reasonably certain" you are the person who first used the ticket. For Disney, a 10000:1 match rate is good enough. Those are the same basic systems that exist in lots of other places, including most mid-level and higher laptops (although they use a slightly different scanning interface - Disney uses a faster and easier but larger and more expensive optical scanner, laptops use a capacitance scanner). With the technology being relatively cheap and commonplace, why would Disney just do it for show?

And Disney has said from day 1 of the new system that you have the option of showing a Photo ID instead. The two problems with that are 1) They don't advertise that very well at the gate, and B) The CMs often don't seem to know that is an option either - which in general has been a growing problem.

 

[ryley26]

Folks were done here this post has gone way off track. Time to put this one to bed. Thanks Rich