~ Real Housewives of New Jersey ~ Season 6 ~ 2014

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I watched the reunion show last night. They said they were in the middle of filming season 4. Jackie wasn't there because of something between her & Teresa. Caroline seemed to be siding with Jackie.

Teresa's true colors sure came out..... When this show ends, (they all end eventually) I see her as a lonely person. No one is going to trust her again....
 
Kathy: I would like her better if she didn't roll her eyes so much.

This made me laugh. I was thinking I'd like her better if she didn't always cluck her tongue so much (I don't know if that's the right way of saying that, but you know when someone makes a "tuh" sound by hitting their tongue on the roof of their mouth?).

Anyhow, there is no reasoning with Teresa. Just about everyone else you can have a rational conversation with and they can see the other side or understand where they may be at fault. But Teresa is just the type of person who is incapable of seeing the other side or taking responsibility for her own actions. She's a bitter, grudge holder -- some people are just like that. Oh, I'm so glad she brought up her forehead -- I agree, it's so short -- she looks very cro-magnon man to me. :lmao:
 
Thought you all might find this interesting. It speaks volumes about Theresa. Let's check off how many are a "yes" when directed at Theresa.



HOW TO SPOT A SOCIOPATH

The big question is, of course, how can you know whether someone is a sociopath or not? It's a difficult question and even experts on the subject can be fooled. If you suspect that someone close to you is a sociopath, I suggest you read both of the books I mentioned, and also read the comments on the comments page, and think hard about it. Compare that person to the other people in your life, and ask yourself these questions:

1. Do you often feel used by the person?

2. Have you often felt that he (or she, because women can be sociopaths too) doesn't care about you?

3. Does he lie and deceive you?

4. Does he tend to make contradictory statements?

5. Does he tend to take from you and not give back much?

6. Does he often appeal to pity? Does he seem to try to make you feel sorry for him?

7. Does he try to make you feel guilty?

8. Do you sometimes feel he is taking advantage of your good nature?

9. Does he seem easily bored and need constant stimulation?

10. Does he use a lot of flattery? Does he interact with you in a way that makes you feel flattered even if he says nothing overtly complimentary?

11. Does he make you feel worried? Does he do it obviously or more cleverly and sneakily?

12. Does he give you the impression you owe him?

13. Does he chronically fail to take responsibility for harming others? Does he blame everyone and everything but himself?

And does he do these things far more than the other people in your life? If you answered "yes" to many of these, you may be dealing with a sociopath. For sure you're dealing with someone who isn't good for you, whatever you want to call him.

I like Martha Stout's way of detecting sociopaths. She wrote: "If ... you find yourself often pitying someone who consistently hurts you or other people, and who actively campaigns for your sympathy, the chances are close to one hundred percent that you are dealing with a sociopath."



WHAT DO THEY WANT?

This is an interesting question. Of course most of our purposes are strongly influenced by our connections and affections with others. Our relationships with others, and our love for them, give us most of the meaning and purpose in our lives. So if a sociopath doesn't have these things, what is left? What kind of purposes do they have?

The answer is chilling: They want to win. Take away love and relationships and all you have left is winning the game, whatever the game is. If they are in business, it's becoming rich and defeating competitors. If it's sibling rivalry, it's defeating the sibling. If it's a contest, the goal is to dominate. If a sociopath is the envious sort, winning could be simply making the other lose or fail or be frustrated or embarrassed.

A sociopath's goal is to win. And he (or she) is willing to do anything at all to win.

Sociopaths don't have as much to think about as normal people, so they can be very clever and conniving. Sociopaths aren't busy being concerned with relationships or moral dilemmas or conflicting feelings, so they have much more time to think about clever ways to gain your trust and stab you in the back, and how do it without anyone knowing what's happening.

One of the questions in the list above was about boredom. This is a real problem for sociopaths and they seem fanatically driven to prevent boredom. The reason it looms so large for them (and seems so strange to us) is that our relationships with people occupy a good amount of our time and attention and interest us intensely. Take that away and all you have is "playing to win" which is rather shallow and empty in comparison. So boredom is a constant problem for sociopaths and they have an incessant urge to keep up a high level of stimulation. Even negative stimulation — drama, worry, upset, etc. — is more tolerable to a sociopath than boredom.

And here I might mention that the research shows sociopaths don't feel emotions the same way normal people do. For example, they don't experience fear as unpleasant. This goes a long way to making their inexplicable behavior comprehensible. Some feelings that you and I might find intolerable might not bother a sociopath at all.

So, once Theresa's parents are gone, all she has left is Joe, an even bigger sociopath, and her kids. One day, I feel like Gia may see her for who she is and take her uncle's side. I saw the replay of the christening and Gia was pulling on her mom to leave Uncle Joe's table. That poor kid. Joe see's his sister for exactly who she is. There will be no relationship between them after their parents are gone, unless Theresa does some major changing, which I do not see happening. She blames Melissa for everything still, just ask Gia...
 
While I think Teresa is totally nuts, I did feel a little bit sorry for her as it seemed like all the questions were aimed at riling her up. She didn't handle it particularly well, but it did seem like Andy was trying to fuel the fire.
 

While I think Teresa is totally nuts, I did feel a little bit sorry for her as it seemed like all the questions were aimed at riling her up. She didn't handle it particularly well, but it did seem like Andy was trying to fuel the fire.

I thought he was much easier on her than he could have been - until I finally hit the "mute" button on my tv.. LOL..:rotfl:

Maybe I should go read the blogs.. At least no one will be screaming, flailing their arms around, rolling their eyes, doing the "bulging" eye thing, "posing" in such a "superior" way (and no - that's not "T" I'm talking about ;)), and playing with their hair..:laughing:
 
I love how everything has to be explained to Teresa. Even compliments were read by her as insults, and she obviously went into the reunion wanting to fight. "You look like the devil, you're dressed in red!"- what is that? Also, I hate that Teresa has basically given herself and Joe credit for everyone else's success in anything. Way to tell her like it is, Melissa and Kathy!
 
Caroline's blog for Bravo:

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-hou...-3/blogs/caroline-manzo/the-camera-doesnt-lie

I know some of you don't like Caroline but I like her. I come from a large Italian family and I love when she said "I'd rather be my kind of Italian than her kind of Italian!" Teresa gives Italian/Americans a bad name. She should be hanging out with Snooki!

Any way, I have always like Caroline. I love her interaction with her kids. Her house seems like a fun place to hang out. I think she has a very level head and gives good advice.

I thought the blog was interesting. I believe her. I don't believe a word that comes out of Teresa's mouth!!!
 
Caroline's blog for Bravo:

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-hou...-3/blogs/caroline-manzo/the-camera-doesnt-lie

I know some of you don't like Caroline but I like her. I come from a large Italian family and I love when she said "I'd rather be my kind of Italian than her kind of Italian!" Teresa gives Italian/Americans a bad name. She should be hanging out with Snooki!

Any way, I have always like Caroline. I love her interaction with her kids. Her house seems like a fun place to hang out. I think she has a very level head and gives good advice.

I thought the blog was interesting. I believe her. I don't believe a word that comes out of Teresa's mouth!!!

Although I haven't always been a huge fan of Caroline, I certainly agree. She has far more integrity than Teresa and has not been caught in bold face lie after bold face lie. If she does something wrong, she appears to own it or apologize. At least she has a couple of times on the show. I have NEVER ever heard Teresa do the same. I don't think "I'm sorry" is in Tre's vocabulary...along with a LOT of other words. (However, ingrdientses and youse are.)
 
I read Caroline's blog and I have a question. She said something about never forgetting the look on Joe Gorga's face when he saw the clip of her outing Teresa's true feelings about reconciling with him. What was she referring to?
 
I read Caroline's blog and I have a question. She said something about never forgetting the look on Joe Gorga's face when he saw the clip of her outing Teresa's true feelings about reconciling with him. What was she referring to?

Maybe part of the next season, which is being filmed, is Joe Gorga watching the reunion. Or, perhaps Joe was sitting right there by the stage during the reunion and she saw his face.
 
I read Caroline's blog and I have a question. She said something about never forgetting the look on Joe Gorga's face when he saw the clip of her outing Teresa's true feelings about reconciling with him. What was she referring to?

Maybe part of the next season, which is being filmed, is Joe Gorga watching the reunion. Or, perhaps Joe was sitting right there by the stage during the reunion and she saw his face.

Melissa & Joe Gorga were on Watch What Happens Live after the NJ Finale and they showed that clip as a preview. When they cut to him, his eyes were welled up with tears and he couldn't really talk about it. It looked like someone punched him in the chest. :sad1:
 
Melissa & Joe Gorga were on Watch What Happens Live after the NJ Finale and they showed that clip as a preview. When they cut to him, his eyes were welled up with tears and he couldn't really talk about it. It looked like someone punched him in the chest. :sad1:

I felt so bad for him and Andy too. That was a real moment. He didn't recover from that the rest of the show you could see how much it bothered him.
 
Melissa & Joe Gorga were on Watch What Happens Live after the NJ Finale and they showed that clip as a preview. When they cut to him, his eyes were welled up with tears and he couldn't really talk about it. It looked like someone punched him in the chest. :sad1:

Aww, that's so sad. I think they are better off without Theresa anyway. It's the Gia/Uncle Joe that is suffering...poor kid.
 
Melissa & Joe Gorga were on Watch What Happens Live after the NJ Finale and they showed that clip as a preview. When they cut to him, his eyes were welled up with tears and he couldn't really talk about it. It looked like someone punched him in the chest. :sad1:
What did Teresa say though? I think I missed that.
 
But the reas is Theresa set Joe's wife mellisa up at a new fashion Show with supposed strippers she used to work with-this is reason jacqueline would not attend the reunion. Even if she was justa barmaid-if I was Theresa's brother I'd be mad and hurt for her (theresa) to expose this about my wife
 
But the reas is Theresa set Joe's wife mellisa up at a new fashion Show with supposed strippers she used to work with-this is reason jacqueline would not attend the reunion. Even if she was justa barmaid-if I was Theresa's brother I'd be mad and hurt for her (theresa) to expose this about my wife

But what did this have to do with Jacequeline? Maybe Ashley/Ashlee was right and she likes the drama :confused3
 
But what did this have to do with Jacequeline? Maybe Ashley/Ashlee was right and she likes the drama :confused3

I think that was just kind of the moment where everyone realized who Teresa really was and everyone just felt like fools for backing her up all these years.

I also imagine there is a bit more too it than what we know that won't come out until next season...
 
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