Re-entering a line

[livndisney]

I would never think my child is more important than others. Ever. I have never been one to cause problems for others and am not talking about the mere issue of having to go pee. It wouldnt even phase me if we werent dealing with a possible kidney REMOVAL.
No worries, I will chat with guest services prior to entering the park and see what they have to say.
Thanks.

I don't know that GS is going to be able to help you, as I said there is not a GAC for potty breaks. When I suggested speaking to a CM, I meant the CM at the line you need to leave. If it is possible, they will be the one to assist you.

 

[Friend of a Mouse]

People just have to deal with us coming and going from the lines.

This attitude is one of the main reasons for so much bashing of people with disabilities. While I support your hopes for a wonderful Disney experience for your family and would make every effort to let you and your child out of line and back into the line, I resent constantly being told I just have to deal with everything for the convenience of others. I am a considerate and polite person, I try to help people and make life easier for them, and I don't have a problem with what you may need to do. However, so many people, both disabled and abled, feel entitled to do what they wish to do with no regard for anyone else that your statement offends me a great deal. I really doubt that you feel the entitlement that so many people express on many of the Dis boards, but please be careful of adopting the attitude that your child is more important than everyone else. Of course, he is more important to you, but there will be many children standing in those lines who have issues that are important to them and to their family.

Wow, that seems a little over the top. At no point did I see an entitled attitude anywhere.You can't please everybody. There will be people who get mad, but most will be understanding. Believe me, many nondisabled kids leave the lines to potty, at least in Fantasyland, and I can honestly say, never once did I see it cause an issue. Just alert the CMs, they can help you get back to your family smoothly, and provide re-entry through FP if you are close to the front.

 

[candielips]

I don't know that GS is going to be able to help you, as I said there is not a GAC for potty breaks. When I suggested speaking to a CM, I meant the CM at the line you need to leave. If it is possible, they will be the one to assist you.

I'm sorry but this is not your average potty break. If you had read all of my posts you would know that this is about the health of his kidneys. A vital organ required to live.

 

[livndisney]

I'm sorry but this is not your average potty break. If you had read all of my posts you would know that this is about the health of his kidneys. A vital organ required to live.

I have read your posts. I think you need to understand the limits of what GS can do. I live locally and spend a great deal of time in the parks. So my suggestion is based on real life experience.

 

[livndisney]

Simply put-if you need to leave a line, your BEST bet is to speak to a CM at the line. WDW waiting areas (lines) and long and winding. OFTEN there is not a quick way out. A CM will be able to get you out, direct you to the nearest restroom and help get you back to your family.

 

[kadesha]

Oh good grief. Some people will make a mountain out of a molehill.

It's not entitlement, it's true that some people will have to deal with her getting out of line. People deal with children getting out of line to go to the bathroom all the time. We "deal" with ECV's, we "deal" with strollers, we "deal" with waiting in lines in the first place, we "deal" with all kinds of stuff to accomodate others. I seriously hope that people don't let things like that ruin their vacation.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I'm sorry but this is not your average potty break. If you had read all of my posts you would know that this is about the health of his kidneys. A vital organ required to live.

Absolutely understood (and I feel safe saying livndisney understands clearly as well). But there is no allowance, no stamp for the GAC, that enables the Guest to leave an attraction line for a bathroom break. There just isn't - even when there's a risk of the loss of an organ.

You've been given some great suggestions, including the use of a good touring plan and enlisting the help of a Cast Member at the attraction when you need to leave a line.

 

[livndisney]

Oh good grief. Some people will make a mountain out of a molehill.

It's not entitlement, it's true that some people will have to deal with her getting out of line. People deal with children getting out of line to go to the bathroom all the time. We "deal" with ECV's, we "deal" with strollers, we "deal" with waiting in lines in the first place, we "deal" with all kinds of stuff to accomodate others. I seriously hope that people don't let things like that ruin their vacation.

It can be about entitlement. People have been known to read something on the internet and DEMAND the same treatment. (I am not commenting on this thread). Others expect WDW to be a truely magical place where for whatever reason they do not have to follow rules or laws of physics.

Most people on this thread have posted advice that is in line with known WDW policies and have provided answers to the OP's question. I hope this does not turn into a bashing thread. As is often said, no one can tell tone on the internet so no one knows how the OP "said" people would have to deal with their needs.

 

[A_Princess'_Daddy]

I have read your posts. I think you need to understand the limits of what GS can do. I live locally and spend a great deal of time in the parks. So my suggestion is based on real life experience.

This is not accurate. We have dealt with a similar issue and were very able to work with GS on a GAC that accommodated our son's need. The OP's son is dealing with a medical condition that necessitates and warrants a medical accommodation, and WDW was able to work with us (it was actually the initial CM at GS who suggested it on our first trip with DS). I have PM'd that information to the OP, but I think it is disingenuous and a bit dangeroua to claim, whether you know the truth or not, that there is no accommodation for OP's need. I'd hate for families to avoid WDW because they get bad or incomplete information. Again, this isn't an "everyday accommodation", but it does exist. I know because I have used it with my son!

 

[livndisney]

This is not accurate. We have dealt with a similar issue and were very able to work with GS on a GAC that accommodated our son's need. The OP's son is dealing with a medical condition that necessitates and warrants a medical accommodation, and WDW was able to work with us (it was actually the initial CM at GS who suggested it on our first trip with DS). I have PM'd that information to the OP, but I think it is disingenuous and a bit dangeroua to claim, whether you know the truth or not, that there is no accommodation for OP's need. I'd hate for families to avoid WDW because they get bad or incomplete information. Again, this isn't an "everyday accommodation", but it does exist. I know because I have used it with my son!

I did not state there was "no accomodation", I posted from my daily experience (dealing with similar medical needs) at WDW. Your post was insulting, rude and uncalled for.

 

[kaytieeldr]

This is not accurate. We have dealt with a similar issue and were very able to work with GS on a GAC that accommodated our son's need. The OP's son is dealing with a medical condition that necessitates and warrants a medical accommodation, and WDW was able to work with us (it was actually the initial CM at GS who suggested it on our first trip with DS). I have PM'd that information to the OP, but I think it is disingenuous and a bit dangeroua to claim, whether you know the truth or not, that there is no accommodation for OP's need. I'd hate for families to avoid WDW because they get bad or incomplete information. Again, this isn't an "everyday accommodation", but it does exist. I know because I have used it with my son!

I don't have a diagnosed kidney issue, but do have bathroom emergencies. I've been told by Guest Services there's nothing they can do for me, just talk to CM's at the attractions.

It's great that you were able to work out an alternative with G'S, and present it here so kindly.

 

[A_Princess'_Daddy]

I don't know that GS is going to be able to help you, as I said there is not a GAC for potty breaks. When I suggested speaking to a CM, I meant the CM at the line you need to leave. If it is possible, they will be the one to assist you.

You imply it above, as well
as later (I cannot multiquote or bold because of the medium I am using to post), and YOU were rude and dismissive by calling her son's medical need a "potty break". And, most importantly, you were incorrect that there is nothing that
GS can do. Stating that as a fact could cause others to assume that is in fact the truth, leading them to not go to WDW, when in fact WDW can accommodate their needs.

 

[Reddy]

I would also study the maps & find all of the bathrooms on them before going - if you don't know where the closest one is when you get out of the line that may be problem as well (I'm kinda thinking the closest one is 10 feet in the direction that you didn't go & it is too late before you figure that out kinda thing)

 

[livndisney]

You imply it above, as well
as later (I cannot multiquote or bold because of the medium I am using to post), and YOU were rude and dismissive by calling her son's medical need a "potty break". And, most importantly, you were incorrect that there is nothing that
GS can do. Stating that as a fact could cause others to assume that is in fact the truth, leading them to not go to WDW, when in fact WDW can accommodate their needs.

You are assuming A LOT in your posts. I said " I don't know that GS is going to be able to help you". Because IN MY EXPERIENCE that is what I (and many others) have been told. What works for us is speaking to a CM. Giving real life advice is no where near suggesting someone not go to WDW nor is it rude.

As far as the term "potty break" it is a common term and in no way dismissive.

Out of respect for Sue, I am going to take the stance that I cannot educate those that do not want to learn. Clearly your way is the only "truth", and ignorance is bliss, so enjoy.

 

[4chickadees]

thanks all for the great info & tips. one of our family members has no colon & has to use the bathroom all of the time.... (I don't want to get into tmi...)

it was much easier for him to take one of the younger children with him out of line to use the potty because he got less looks from others standing in line. It worked & people were understanding.... and, he always tried to use the bathroom before getting in line. Still not easy....

Good luck to you. Keep us posted on how it goes!

 

[A_Princess'_Daddy]

I don't have a diagnosed kidney issue, but do have bathroom emergencies. I've been told by Guest Services there's nothing they can do for me, just talk to CM's at the attractions.

It's great that you were able to work out an alternative with G'S, and present it here so kindly.

If my tone was unkind, I did not mean it to be. I'm posting on my phone while we traverse the country, and my phone makes it extremely difficult to go back in a text box to reread and edit before posting. Although rereading my post now, I still see nothing particularly unkind. Blunt and direct, perhaps, but I do think it is dangerous to post something positioned as a fact when it is an opinion or perceived reality and I did perceive some minimizing of OP's needs.

Maybe I was misreading tone just as others misread mine? Regardless, there is an accommodation (I don't know why it wasn't offered to you, as it was offered to us by the initial CM and known by each additional GS CM on our three trips since; maybe it is condition specific?) and now OP knows about it (which was my goal) and, hopefully, they enjoy their trip freed from a bit of worry about the health of their son.

Personally, I cannot wait until our son no longer needs it, as it is by no means some great accommodation that makes our trips flawless or more fun than for the average park goer, it just makes them possible.

 

[buffettgirl]

This is not accurate. We have dealt with a similar issue and were very able to work with GS on a GAC that accommodated our son's need. The OP's son is dealing with a medical condition that necessitates and warrants a medical accommodation, and WDW was able to work with us (it was actually the initial CM at GS who suggested it on our first trip with DS). I have PM'd that information to the OP, but I think it is disingenuous and a bit dangeroua to claim, whether you know the truth or not, that there is no accommodation for OP's need. I'd hate for families to avoid WDW because they get bad or incomplete information. Again, this isn't an "everyday accommodation", but it does exist. I know because I have used it with my son!

Right, I"m wondering why GS can't stamp "alternate entry" or something which would make the line in and out much easier in case of need? Just because there is no actual "leave line for bathroom" stamp that doesn't mean that GS doesn't have something that will accommodate the needs of the child.

In any case, even with a good touring plan sometimes you have to wait in line and leave line. We had fast passes at Soarin and even still we had to wait quite a while and it was right then that my son decided he couldn't wait for the bathroom and knowing that once we got onto the ride there was no exit, we knew we needed to get to the bathroom right then. The CM let us out of line and gave us a new fast pass to be given to the CM at the front of the line when we returned. It was such a non-issue to them.

 

[kaytieeldr]

If my tone was unkind, I did not mean it to be. I'm posting on my phone while we traverse the country, and my phone makes it extremely difficult to go back in a text box to reread and edit before posting. Although rereading my post now, I still see nothing particularly unkind. Blunt and direct, perhaps, but I do think it is dangerous to post something positioned as a fact when it is an opinion or perceived reality and I did perceive some minimizing of OP's needs.

It's a fact in my experience, and others', but obviously not yours - and I'm sure the OP sincerely appreciates hearing from you.

I apologize for misunderstanding either your tone or intention. I read it as, "Nyah, Nyah, you're all wrong and I'm right and you should just say nothing if you don't know it all". Which is obviously not how you intended to sound.

 

[candielips]

OP here.

First, I would like to thank everyone for their suggestions.

Second, I did feel like my concerns were being dismissed as a simple potty break by some posters and that my sons medical issues were not valid reason to even speak to Guest Services. Thank you to those who let me know otherwise.

Third, I do not want this thread to turn into a bashing thread. I hate how much bashing can go on in here. We are all here because we love disney and I would hate for others to come on here and see all this negativity.

I will be making a touring plan, using the bathroom before all rides and talking to a CM in case the need arises as well as Guest Services before we enter the park.
I hope everyone has a wonderful new years.

 

[bookwormde]

There is little need for discussion of the facts:

The child has a disability

WDW must accommodate the child so they can have equal access to the attraction regardless of the disability if possible as long as it does not change the nature of the attraction

If GAC does not adequately and consistently provide the accommodation the WDW is obligated under ADA 2009 to provide alternate accommodations.


Unless the CMs are adequately trained to consistently provide the accommodation without further guidance then WDW is obligated under ADA 2009 to provide instruction for the individual to carry to inform the CMs of the accommodation.

It is really a very simple law and set of interpretations.