Re: Dogs, Do you leave water in the crate?

No one is talking about leaving an animal without food and/or water for days. I'd hardly consider not leaving water for an animal for a few hours as being cruel. I would consider it more cruel to give them water then they have to "hold it" until they get out.

As for your cat being crated to protect her? Don't you think that's why most dogs are crated? To protect them from themselves? Sure its done to protect the home, carpets, plants, ect but is also a safety measure for the animal.


I understand that people don't leave their dogs for days on end without water, but how would you like to be told that you can't have access to water all day? We are responsible for taking care of them and to me leaving an animal without water is cruel.

My grandmother raised poodles in the early 80's and one of my jobs was to make sure they had fresh water all day everyday and not one of them spent any time in any kind of crate or cage. My dog has free run of our back yard and has his own "room" in a basement away from the heat, rain, and cold and plenty of fresh, clean water. Even when we lived in our old house, he stayed in a playpen on newspaper and had access to water all day.

I don't think it is appropriate to crate a dog, they weren't meant to be in crates. I don't see how it is safe, unless you are traveling. Even my little 4lb rabbit has a huge enclosure (6ft x 2ft), so she isn't shut in a small space.


Suzanne
 
I understand that people don't leave their dogs for days on end without water, but how would you like to be told that you can't have access to water all day? We are responsible for taking care of them and to me leaving an animal without water is cruel.

My grandmother raised poodles in the early 80's and one of my jobs was to make sure they had fresh water all day everyday and not one of them spent any time in any kind of crate or cage. My dog has free run of our back yard and has his own "room" in a basement away from the heat, rain, and cold and plenty of fresh, clean water. Even when we lived in our old house, he stayed in a playpen on newspaper and had access to water all day.

I don't think it is appropriate to crate a dog, they weren't meant to be in crates. I don't see how it is safe, unless you are traveling. Even my little 4lb rabbit has a huge enclosure (6ft x 2ft), so she isn't shut in a small space.


Suzanne

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We always leave water in the crate. We have a dish that attaches to the crate so that it is not on the bottom.

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Oh, that looks better than what I have, may I ask where you got this particular one?
 
I don't think it is appropriate to crate a dog, they weren't meant to be in crates. Suzanne

So you don't think a baby or child should be in a crib, carseat or playpen?

If my dog was crated for any length of time I would leave ice cubes in a bowl. We recommend for anyone shipping a pet by air to freeze water in the required water bowl so it won't slosh out immediately and they have something to lick at. A pet that is used to being crated handles travel and hospitalization much better in most cases than a pet that is not.:)
 
So you don't think a baby or child should be in a crib, carseat or playpen?

If my dog was crated for any length of time I would leave ice cubes in a bowl. We recommend for anyone shipping a pet by air to freeze water in the required water bowl so it won't slosh out immediately and they have something to lick at. A pet that is used to being crated handles travel and hospitalization much better in most cases than a pet that is not.:)

Dogs being crated has nothing to do with babies or children, how can you compare the two :confused3?

Besides those things aren't enclosed like a crate.
 
how long do you normally leave the dog in the crate for?

We have a water dish that is refillable as the dogs deplete it...nto sure the proper term for it.
 
You were at the dentist for five hours? :scared1: :eek::sick: Forget the puppy; poor you!
 
Dogs are den animals -- they seek out covered places to rest and get away from it all. My dogs are only crated for the same reasons you put a baby in a crib or playpen (when you can't supervise them properly). It's not cruel to put a baby in a playpen when you take a shower -- same applies to putting a puppy in a crate while you shower.

Eventually my dogs outgrow them but still seek them out on their own when they want to relax. And believe me, it's more than worth it any time they need to be hospitalized -- it's very sad to have a dog that freaks out because it doesn't understand that a crate is a safe place. It makes hospitalization so much more stressful for the animal.

And of course riding in a crate is the safest way to travel.

There are all sorts of water buckets and bowls that clip securely into the sides of the crate. Check out a pet supply catalog on line. Dogs don't chew stainless steel (well, usually!)
 
Oh, that looks better than what I have, may I ask where you got this particular one?

We got it at our local pet supply store but I would imagine it is all over the place. It is called a Snap'y Fit Water and Feed bowl.




Funny thing about our older dog. He sleeps in the OPEN crate all day. He's as happy as can be in there. And when when we are going out and take the collar off our younger dog, he just automatically walks over and goes in the crate. If he hated it, he wouldn't go anywhere near it.
 
We never crated Charley. Just didn't need to.

The new puppy - we crate. And no water. She's only in there maybe 3-4 hours. She'll live. :)
 
i can see both sides of the argument. but i probably would have left some water if you were gone for a while. i'd rather have a messy cage than a dehydrated dog, you know?

i've never had to deal with puppies and cages, i had kittens that i left in a cage when they were babies and i was at work, and they never made a mess. left the food and the water in there(since i'd be gone for 8 hours) and some toys. they never gave me a problem. the only thing one ever did was i had the one that's almost like a watercooler-type thing so it constantly has water, and one of them was sitting ontop of it when i came home :lmao:
 
We got it at our local pet supply store but I would imagine it is all over the place. It is called a Snap'y Fit Water and Feed bowl.




Funny thing about our older dog. He sleeps in the OPEN crate all day. He's as happy as can be in there. And when when we are going out and take the collar off our younger dog, he just automatically walks over and goes in the crate. If he hated it, he wouldn't go anywhere near it.

i've never crated dogs, but when my cats were just babies(we got them when they were just 8 weeks old) we would crate them at night or when i was at work. DH, at the time, was on afternoons so he'd be there during the day with them when i was at work, and then he'd crate them and i'd let them out when i came home(which was usually for a few hours) and i'd also do it if i was cooking or taking a shower.

now they're all 2 years old. we don't have the crate anymore, but we have their carrier that we use when they go to the vets, and two of them actually sleep in it on occation. we put a blanket in there for them since they did it so often for a while. they just curl up and sleep right there.
 
The water bottles and crate crocks work very well if you want to leave water. I, personally, think of 5 hours confined in a crate, with or without water, as an outside limit. I've always had a dog walker if they have had to be left longer. I can't go more than 5 hours without water or a bathroom break myself, so why should they?

Crates are great training and safety devices until your dog is able to be left without messing up the house, destroying things, or hurting themselved when unsupervised. I do have permanently one set up in my family room, because one of my dogs loves her den, but the door is seldom closed on her.
 
I do not put water in my dog's crate. He runs to his cage, very willingly, and sleeps while we are gone. He is not quite two and not quite ready to be in the house while we are gone. My older dog no longer goes in the crate while we are gone. I do not think it is cruel to not give him water. Quite often, I do not have a drink for several hours. People or dogs (my mom's dog is on steroids) with special medical concerns might need access to water. That is not the case here. He is in a cool place, sleeping. He is fine until we get home. I put my children in crates without water, too.;)
 
We got it at our local pet supply store but I would imagine it is all over the place. It is called a Snap'y Fit Water and Feed bowl.




Funny thing about our older dog. He sleeps in the OPEN crate all day. He's as happy as can be in there. And when when we are going out and take the collar off our younger dog, he just automatically walks over and goes in the crate. If he hated it, he wouldn't go anywhere near it.

Our dog does the same thing! He's almost 6, and he hangs out in his open crate all the time! In fact, he's in there right now, snoring away!

And he also comes in after his "good-night walk" and jumps right into his crate for the night!
 
I understand that people don't leave their dogs for days on end without water, but how would you like to be told that you can't have access to water all day? We are responsible for taking care of them and to me leaving an animal without water is cruel.

My grandmother raised poodles in the early 80's and one of my jobs was to make sure they had fresh water all day everyday and not one of them spent any time in any kind of crate or cage. My dog has free run of our back yard and has his own "room" in a basement away from the heat, rain, and cold and plenty of fresh, clean water. Even when we lived in our old house, he stayed in a playpen on newspaper and had access to water all day.

I don't think it is appropriate to crate a dog, they weren't meant to be in crates. I don't see how it is safe, unless you are traveling. Even my little 4lb rabbit has a huge enclosure (6ft x 2ft), so she isn't shut in a small space.


Suzanne

I agree, we did crate for the first few months just for a little while and at night, that didn't last long. We just put baby gates up until he was trained. No one I know of crated their dogs when I grew up. I hate it. Anyway, to each their own, but I would never buy a dog with the intention of crating him all the time. But then again, our dog sleeps with us.
 
It horrifies me to think that people actually leave their pets for several hours without access to fresh water. Do you enjoy being thirsty? I know that I don't.

You can buy dishes that attached to the crate at any pet store. The crate that both of my dogs used came with little dishes that clipped onto the door.

I am seriously shocked at certain posters who I thought were complete animal lovers, but apparently neglect their animals on a regular basis. Some of these same posters are always giving advice on the various pet threads, and present themselves as being quite knowledgeable on the subject. Guess you really don't know what goes on behind closed (crate) doors.
 















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