RCI....Blessing or curse?

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There's lots of talk around here about RCI so I'm wondering....Is it a blessing or a curse (compared to the old World Passport trades)? Personally, I'm not thrilled about the HI options (except Hilton Hawaiian Village)....not much to choose from on Kauii or Maui. And, most of the ski trades are not slopeside or ski in/ski out. However, I don't have anything to compare it to. Comments from those who know???? :magnify:
 
Most seem to agree that the II destination list was better than RCI. But one of the drawbacks of II was that DVC resorts weren't given very much trading power in their system (too many Orlando-area resorts) which meant many of the top destinations were virtually unobtainable.

I don't know that there has been enough experience with RCI to know how DVC members will do trading out. :confused3

All of that said--I still think the best approach is to use DVC points for DVC stays and find other avenues for staying elsewhere. :thumbsup2 If you can't use the DVC points rent them and either pay cash for the desired destination or look at renting thru TUG, Redweek, etc.
 
Most seem to agree that the II destination list was better than RCI. But one of the drawbacks of II was that DVC resorts weren't given very much trading power in their system (too many Orlando-area resorts) which meant many of the top destinations were virtually unobtainable.

I don't know that there has been enough experience with RCI to know how DVC members will do trading out. :confused3

All of that said--I still think the best approach is to use DVC points for DVC stays and find other avenues for staying elsewhere. :thumbsup2 If you can't use the DVC points rent them and either pay cash for the desired destination or look at renting thru TUG, Redweek, etc.


Thanks. Looks like it's time to start doing my research on renting points.....
 
More and better choices for less than a week but overall not as many good choices as II. But it might be a blessing in that many of the II exchange options were not a good value either.
 

There's lots of talk around here about RCI so I'm wondering....Is it a blessing or a curse (compared to the old World Passport trades)? Personally, I'm not thrilled about the HI options (except Hilton Hawaiian Village)....not much to choose from on Kauii or Maui. And, most of the ski trades are not slopeside or ski in/ski out. However, I don't have anything to compare it to. Comments from those who know???? :magnify:

I have another TS week that trades in RCI(which I plan to use 90% of the time, as it is 4-5hrs away).

I received 2 banked weeks for free with the purchase! Used one of the freebies to book Wyndham Kona Hawaiian 2br for July 2010(this was back b4 Thanksgiving as they had a huge banking).

I will be using both II and RCI to look to exchange for a 2nd week. The RCI list is quite a bit smaller than the II of resorts, but as long as the resort is well run and a good location I'll overlook it doesn't have a brand name.

Take a look at Shell Vacation Kauai Coast Resort at the Beachboy, it has good reviews on TUG.
 
Personally, I wish they would have offered DVC access to BOTH exchange companies. I have timeshares that trade through both companies and I use both for different resorts. But I personally think II (Interval) has more high end brands that I like to stay at. :)
 
Personally, I wish they would have offered DVC access to BOTH exchange companies. I have timeshares that trade through both companies and I use both for different resorts. But I personally think II (Interval) has more high end brands that I like to stay at. :)
This was considered in 2006 when Ken May (Former DVC top dog) and RCI made the last bid for DVC's participation. The problem with dual affiliation is you lose any leverage for special consideration and concessions. There are not as many resorts as you think that are truly dually affiliated in that new buyers could participate in either exchange company and that the home resort system actively works with both companies on an ongoing basis. It's much like the HMO when they contract with some physicians but not all. If you open it up to all, there's no incentive for any concessions. If you limit participation, you get better prices. Of course you have to balance that with enough choices of physicians and other services that use the hospitals you also contract with, at least to be successful.

Personally I'd like to see the option of direct membership with II OR RCI (better II) but I realize this option favors the more active traders and is detrimental to the casual trader. It also would eliminate the request first option in all likelihood.
 
This was considered in 2006 when Ken May (Former DVC top dog) and RCI made the last bid for DVC's participation. The problem with dual affiliation is you lose any leverage for special consideration and concessions. There are not as many resorts as you think that are truly dually affiliated in that new buyers could participate in either exchange company and that the home resort system actively works with both companies on an ongoing basis. It's much like the HMO when they contract with some physicians but not all. If you open it up to all, there's no incentive for any concessions. If you limit participation, you get better prices. Of course you have to balance that with enough choices of physicians and other services that use the hospitals you also contract with, at least to be successful.

Personally I'd like to see the option of direct membership with II OR RCI (better II) but I realize this option favors the more active traders and is detrimental to the casual trader. It also would eliminate the request first option in all likelihood.

My Lakeside Terrace is dual affiliated, but shows up in RCI's directory in their "limited availability" list. They sent me a card offering a discount on exchange fees if I would deposit with them.

Since this is a Starwood resort, I'll likely keep using II for exchanging with it as I do get the 3 day *wood priority. Plus I don't really see much in RCI that I would consider an equal trade.

I think there is a current thread on TUG about dual affiliated resorts, that RCI rates them down a peg due to the dual affiliation.
 
My Lakeside Terrace is dual affiliated, but shows up in RCI's directory in their "limited availability" list. They sent me a card offering a discount on exchange fees if I would deposit with them.

Since this is a Starwood resort, I'll likely keep using II for exchanging with it as I do get the 3 day *wood priority. Plus I don't really see much in RCI that I would consider an equal trade.

I think there is a current thread on TUG about dual affiliated resorts, that RCI rates them down a peg due to the dual affiliation.
That was my point, while they may be listed with both, it's not an equal listing and in the case of resorts still in new sales, new owners often don't have the choice of both. I think both II and RCI rate them down if they are not the PREFERRED exchange company. RCI rated Marriott down when they changed over though they won't admit it. Giving up both the internal exchange preference AND a potential bonus week wouldn't make sense for you, esp since you're looking at HI with two Westin's on your preferred islands and a Sheraton on the way on Kauai all in II.
 
That was my point, while they may be listed with both, it's not an equal listing and in the case of resorts still in new sales, new owners often don't have the choice of both. I think both II and RCI rate them down if they are not the PREFERRED exchange company. RCI rated Marriott down when they changed over though they won't admit it. Giving up both the internal exchange preference AND a potential bonus week wouldn't make sense for you, esp since you're looking at HI with two Westin's on your preferred islands and a Sheraton on the way on Kauai all in II.

Unfortunately *wood weeks don't get AC's, even at voluntary resorts.

I wouldn't put my LT week in RCI even if they gave me the exchange for free.

It will be fine for my silver crown week in MI when I don't want to use it, plus the extra vacations are a plus.
 
It's really weird in RCI how the older Marriotts that are still in RCI don't show the Marriott name.

One thing I like about RCI with having an individual membership is their "Last Call" deals. Especially for Gatlinburg. It's too bad that DVC couldn't have worked out some kind of deal for the members to have access to Last Calls and Extra Vacation Getaways. When my parents bought their II affiliated timeshare, one of the perks the salesman stressed to them was having access to Getaways. It actually pushed them over the edge to buy.

I like owning a stable so to speak of ownerships. We like owning DVC points to have the ability to book on property when we want, I like owning my Marriott for what it offers, and I like my dual affiliated resort that gave me access to RCI, too. Just owning DVC points couldn't offer everything I wanted.

RCI has some nice resorts - the Hiltons come to mind. :) I do think the choices for Maui are kind of sad now - no Marriotts or Westins.
 
It's really weird in RCI how the older Marriotts that are still in RCI don't show the Marriott name.

One thing I like about RCI with having an individual membership is their "Last Call" deals. Especially for Gatlinburg. It's too bad that DVC couldn't have worked out some kind of deal for the members to have access to Last Calls and Extra Vacation Getaways. When my parents bought their II affiliated timeshare, one of the perks the salesman stressed to them was having access to Getaways. It actually pushed them over the edge to buy.

I like owning a stable so to speak of ownerships. We like owning DVC points to have the ability to book on property when we want, I like owning my Marriott for what it offers, and I like my dual affiliated resort that gave me access to RCI, too. Just owning DVC points couldn't offer everything I wanted.

RCI has some nice resorts - the Hiltons come to mind. :) I do think the choices for Maui are kind of sad now - no Marriotts or Westins.
DVC has chose not to arrange access to the short term rentals and reduced rates inside the 45-60 day window. I would definitely agree that a balanced portolio is a great option. We have DVC, trading Marriott's, Marriott's to use, RCI points and Bluegreen which can be used directly, deposited to RCI OR II and can be deposited points for deposit.
 
It also would eliminate the request first option in all likelihood.
It wouldn't have to. Wyndham owners have individual accounts but also have search-first for a spot-check. However, we cannot initiate an ongoing search without depositing.
 
It wouldn't have to. Wyndham owners have individual accounts but also have search-first for a spot-check. However, we cannot initiate an ongoing search without depositing.
I was referring to the ability for an ongoing search first, not just an immediate search without depositing.
 



















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