I agree that location within a loop can make a difference! One person's idea of quiet may not be the same as others. At check-in we ask for a site near the rear of the loop, away from roads and buse stops, because we don't like traffic noises. That being said, one yappy dog, or unruly group of campers can shatter the peace at any moment. (Believe me, we have a very loud party group on ouir favorite 800 loop last week.)