Question regarding banking points...

tiffsix

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So my Husband & I are sending in a deposit for a re-sale at SSR. The UY is August. If Disney does not snatch this up first, we would be receiving 58 points from 2007 and 200 points in Aug. 08'. How does the banking of the points work? If we become DVC members, we plan on taking our 1st trip in September 2008. Is there a certain amount of time we have to use the 58 extra points from 2007? And what about if we only use 150 of our 2008 points? We have to call & notify them, correct? but how far in advance? This is all very confusing to me so I apologize for rambling on and on! Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks! :confused3
 
With an August use year, you deadlines would be:

100% - January 31
50% - April 30
25% - May 31

So if you have 200 points, you can bank 200 by January 31, 100 total by April 30 and 50 total by May 31. So you have until April 30, 2008 to bank the 58 August 2007 points. They would then be valid for stays 8/1/08 to 7/31/09.
 
I hope you negotiated on this contract because you really don't have any current points and only 1/4 of the next year's points. (You'd be in UY Aug 06 right now).
 
We have an Aug UY as well. First I'm trying to decifer your deal. The 58 points that are left from the 06 UY, yes? Or is this contract stripped right now meaning that after Aug 07 you will get 58 points, so the previous owners borrowed? If this is the case you can bank the 58 points by January 08, maybe later since most of the points are already used, so on August 1st 08 you will have 258 points available. If you only use a portion of these you can bank the rest. Good luck with your purchase.....
Brownie
 

From what I gather from the contract, right now in 2007, there are 58 remaining points left as the previous owner borrowed 142 points from their 2007 allocation. So from what I understand, on August 1, 2007, (Aug. is the UY) we will be receiving another 200 points to use b/w 8/1/07-7/31/08. So that would give us a total of 258 points as of 8/1/07. Is that correct? So if my husband & I aren't planning on using these points until Sept. 08', how many points we will have come that time & when do we have to notify DVC of our intent to bank the points? Please let me know if I am correct as well, because I find this stuff so confusing!!! Thanks so much! :confused3
 
From what I gather from the contract, right now in 2007, there are 58 remaining points left as the previous owner borrowed 142 points from their 2007 allocation. So from what I understand, on August 1, 2007, (Aug. is the UY) we will be receiving another 200 points to use b/w 8/1/07-7/31/08. So that would give us a total of 258 points as of 8/1/07. Is that correct? So if my husband & I aren't planning on using these points until Sept. 08', how many points we will have come that time & when do we have to notify DVC of our intent to bank the points? Please let me know if I am correct as well, because I find this stuff so confusing!!! Thanks so much! :confused3
If the previous owner borrowed 142 points from their 2007 allocation, you will not get another 200 points on 8/1/2007. So there are 58 points remaining in your 2007 use year - which hasn't started yet since you have an August use year month.

Those 58 points may be used to pay for stays that occur between 8/1/2007 and 7/21/2008.

If you bank them, they become good for stays that occur between 8/1/2008 and 7/31/2009.

On 8/1/2008 and each 8/1 after that, you receive another 200 points.


The only way you would get another 200 ppoints on 8/1/2007 would be if the previous owner used 142 points from the 2006 use year (which runs from 8/1/2006 - 7/31/2007). He/She could also have borrowed 2006 points to use for a vacation that occurred in their 2005 use year, which ran from 8/1/2005 - 7/31/2006.

If you are not sure, please call your broker and get it clarified. I'd hate to have you buy this contract thinking you are getting 200 points on 8/1/2007 if in fact you are only getting 58.
 
Great thread! Learning a lot about banking.:thumbsup2

I just want to make sure I am understanding the general banking rules.

100% of points can be banked w/in first 6 months of UY
50% of points can be banked b/t 6 mo & 9 mo
25% of points b/t 9 mo & 10 mo

Is my logic correct?

I also see the term "transfer" a lot - I assume that is for owners who have more than one home resort that they transfer points b/t ressies to make it work?

Who knew Disney had so much vocabulary?:confused3
 
I just want to make sure I am understanding the general banking rules.

100% of points can be banked w/in first 6 months of UY
50% of points can be banked b/t 6 mo & 9 mo
25% of points b/t 9 mo & 10 mo

Is my logic correct?
Yes you are correct about the banking deadlines. The percentages are cumulative. So if you have a 200-pt contract and you banked 90 points at some point in your 100% banking window, you could bank up to another 10 points during your 50% banking window and no points during your 25% window.

Also, if you have any add-on contracts, the points are pooled for banking purposes. Let's say you owned 150 SSR points and had a 50-point add-on contract at BCV. If you were in your 25% banking window and had banked no points earlier in the UY, you could bank all 50 BCV points in your 25% banking window. This is because those 50 BCV points represent only 25% of the 200 total points you own between the 150-pt SSR master contract and the 50-pt BCV add-on contract.

I also see the term "transfer" a lot - I assume that is for owners who have more than one home resort that they transfer points b/t ressies to make it work?
The term "transfer" refers to moving points between contracts where the contracts are under different membership numbers. This would be the case when moving points between contracts owned by different members but it also applies to members who have more than one master contract.

If you purchase an "add-on" from Disney, it will have the same UY and be under the same membership number as your master contract. If for some reason you wanted to purchase another contract with a different UY you can do so, but it becomes a separate master contract with a new membership number. This would also be the case if you purchased another contract on the resale market and it had a different UY or you put different names on the deed -- it would be set up as a separate master contract. It can also happen if you purchase resale with the same UY and same names but Disney doesn't notice you are already a member and sets up the resale as a new master rather than an add-on to your existing contract.

With a master and add-on(s), you can pool the points when you make a reservation. No transfer is required. If the contracts are at the same resort, the points can be pooled to make a reservation at that resort 11 months out. If the contracts are at different resorts, then the points can be pooled to make reservations at any resort 7 months out.

If you own two separate master contracts and want to make a reservation using points from both contracts, you have two options.

1) You can make a reservation for part of the trip using points from one contract, make a second reservation for the rest of the trip using points from another contract and then have MS link the two reservations together.

2) You can transfer points from one contract into the other and make the entire reservation from one contract. But you only get one transfer per UY (either in or out) so you would use up the one transfer for both contracts doing this.
 
Lisa -

Thanks so much for the info! I have actually printed it out and put it with our stuff so that we remember all of this!!

It is so nice to have it explained in "non-legaleze" terms, too.

Now the last question is...where can I get a picture of SSR to put on our signature line like everyone else? Is that on the MS site?
 
2) You can transfer points from one contract into the other and make the entire reservation from one contract. But you only get one transfer per UY (either in or out) so you would use up the one transfer for both contracts doing this.

I don't mean to hijack the thread but you guys seem to really know alot about transferring points and I have a question! We are also thinking of buying and can't decide between SSR and AKV. Some very good friends of ours who we would vacation with frequently will be buying at AKV. If we decided to buy at SSR but at some point wanted to stay in a two bedroom with our friends at AKV could we transfer our 180 points to their AKV contract and book the 2 bedroom at the 11 month window or would those points still be considered a SSR contract and we would have to book 1/2 of our trip at 11 months and the other half at 7 months? The answer to this question will hugely impact our decision because I know that sometimes we will want to be at the same resort and we are both planners and will want to book at 11 months! I know my family would be happy anywhere at WDW and both resorts are very attractive for us. This decision is driving me crazy!!!:headache:
 
We are also thinking of buying and can't decide between SSR and AKV. Some very good friends of ours who we would vacation with frequently will be buying at AKV. If we decided to buy at SSR but at some point wanted to stay in a two bedroom with our friends at AKV could we transfer our 180 points to their AKV contract and book the 2 bedroom at the 11 month window or would those points still be considered a SSR contract and we would have to book 1/2 of our trip at 11 months and the other half at 7 months?
The rule is that transferred points retain their home resort and UY. So if you transfer SSR points to your friend's AKV contract, they would still be SSR points.
 











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