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Good morning everyone--
@PollyannaMom saying prayers for your son that it's nothing serious. Please keep us updated when you can

To everyone--thank you for the continued support and prayers. Once again we had conflicting nursing reports last nite. When his daughter left, she questioned his nurse as to why they stopped his night dose of lasix. She said it was because his kidney function had improved and didn't need it. At 8 hubby called after his night nurse came in (the one I loved from Tuesday), and she said it was because his kidney function #'s were a little off from the day before. So they held the lasix and the aldactone yesterday and will again today. So I called her at 4 am, when I knew the floor would still be fairly quiet to ask who was right, who was wrong. Day nurse was wrong. She said they aren't off enough to be concerned, just that they were off, and those 2 meds could be doing it. I have to ask the Dr myself today if the Entresto is having anything to do with it. His leg was swollen last night because he had been up and down so much, and didn't keep it elevated like he was supposed to. The arm is still somewhat swollen near his elbow, but his hand is much better. And she was going to call the lab and find out who keeps taking blood out of that arm, that has the 'restricted access' band on it, and tell them to stop, as they did it again last nite or this morning.
All of this of course made my sleep not great last nite, I got a few hours and am going to lay down again for awhile..sister in law picking me up at 9:45 so I have time to rest again.

Have a nice morning, hugs and prayers to all of you needing it :grouphug:

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And she was going to call the lab and find out who keeps taking blood out of that arm, that has the 'restricted access' band on it, and tell them to stop, as they did it again last nite or this morning.

I had a thought, and forgive me if this is too intrusive - but what responsibility is your husband taking in his care? I presume he is of sound mind? Is he unable to speak up for himself when they attempt to take blood from the restricted arm? Perhaps if he was encouraged to take control of his situation a bit more and speak up for himself in the AM/PM - and during the day as well - he may find a better reaction from the nursing staff and Dr.'s? I wonder if he may not benefit from speaking up for himself instead of others doing so, might get a different response. Just a thought....I know my MIL is one to say "well, they didn't say anything" or "they didn't do it" and the like in medical situations and I'm always thinking "Well why in hell did you not speak up FOR YOURSELF IN THE MOMENT????" I feel like sometimes, in situations where a patient can advocate for themselves, that when others do it for them it creates a added layer of distance between the caregivers & the patient. Saw it with my own parents recently. My father had surgery and my mother, always used to 'taking care' of my dad started speaking for him, and to the Dr. /nurse when my father was perfectly capable! And he let her. It wasn't until I pointed out that Dad needed to do his own communicating and not sit back and let her do the talking all the time that they realized what they each were doing!

Just a quick update, as not much phone battery. We are still here, he was admitted for the night, but is sleeping and feeling partly better on the meds.

I'm glad he is feeling a bit better, fingers crossed that they get to the cause and he is feeling better soon. Hope you got some rest as well -
 
I had a thought, and forgive me if this is too intrusive - but what responsibility is your husband taking in his care? I presume he is of sound mind? Is he unable to speak up for himself when they attempt to take blood from the restricted arm? Perhaps if he was encouraged to take control of his situation a bit more and speak up for himself in the AM/PM - and during the day as well - he may find a better reaction from the nursing staff and Dr.'s? I wonder if he may not benefit from speaking up for himself instead of others doing so, might get a different response. Just a thought....I know my MIL is one to say "well, they didn't say anything" or "they didn't do it" and the like in medical situations and I'm always thinking "Well why in hell did you not speak up FOR YOURSELF IN THE MOMENT????" I feel like sometimes, in situations where a patient can advocate for themselves, that when others do it for them it creates a added layer of distance between the caregivers & the patient. Saw it with my own parents recently. My father had surgery and my mother, always used to 'taking care' of my dad started speaking for him, and to the Dr. /nurse when my father was perfectly capable! And he let her. It wasn't until I pointed out that Dad needed to do his own communicating and not sit back and let her do the talking all the time that they realized what they each were doing!



I'm glad he is feeling a bit better, fingers crossed that they get to the cause and he is feeling better soon. Hope you got some rest as well -


Apparently they did it in the middle of the night when he was half asleep both nights, I am talking like 2-3-4 am..he didn't even realize they had done it..and no you are not being too intrusive. My husband is a very quiet person, who rarely complains. Sometimes he tells me things that they are doing that upset him, but he won't be the one to tell them. He feels like he is 'bothering them and they are too busy with other patients." We went through this 5 years ago when he was in CCU and also when he was at Univ of MD in Baltimore. I guess the same thing happens in a lot of hospitals.

Thanks for the continued advice..I really am listening to you. I am trying to get him to speak up for himself..and to do more for himself..but everytime he tries, they don't listen. Example. This morning he asked them to help him up so he could use the commode,,he was told they would bring him a bedpan. That they were 'busy'..extremely unacceptable in my opinion..and I will be speaking to someone again this morning. He is just feeling disgusted, defeated, and every other emotion I can imagine. I let him talk to the Dr yesterday until this guy started with the 'you are ready to be discharged' stuff..and then I stepped in and mentioned all the reasons he is not..which all lay at the fault of the PT and 'some' nursing staff. I realize that I have been doing too much for him at home, to make it easier on him, but that will cease as soon as he gets home. I don't offer to help him at the hospital unless he asks. Right now he can barely move his left wrist, which makes things difficult, but I let him try to do it first, and then ask if he needs my help. That is a big step for me! lol!
 
Pray for my 16 year old daughter that she starts changing her attitude towards me. I ask for help and get an attitude. When we registered for fair she wanted to make sure that either she or her sister had at least 25 items to be judged so that they would have to go in the morning so she would not have to put up with most of the club we are in. I asked her last night to help with some things which were:
Go through and start printing photos that 13 year old has done-I got a binder with pockets that will hold them so we can get them on the display boards and in frames at a later time, but want to get the printing done so we are not rushing at the last minute.
Find the box of stuff from under the table that had (13 year old and I ended up doing this together) the pipe cleaners, beads, and sand art items in it so that I could work with 13 year old to get those items done.
Make a list of what tools (measuring cups, spoons, bowls, pans, ect) are needed for the remainder of the activities in 13 year old's microwave cooking book and then find them-so that I can get the ones that need to be washed done (when I injured my knee back in 2018 to the point that I should have had surgery and was on crutches
 
Pray for my 16 year old daughter that she starts changing her attitude towards me.

Absolutely! And good luck with that. I was a true pain to my parents when I was 16!
When our eldest was that age, he could be a trial! The third time he forget his cleats in 9th grade??? He called, but I didn't bring them to him at school. He needed to learn to have some responsibility. He let his team down that day, he couldn't play and they had a rubbish game since they were already down another player who was ill. After that he was more responsible with remembering his equipment and to think about not letting his team down! I must admit though, I was a bit of a 'tough love' kinda Mother, so my suggestion would be to stop. Just stop, you've asked for her help for her (4H?) fair participation. If she doesn't help, don't do it for her. Let the cookies crumble where they will. Admittedly it is hard to do and takes a bit of internal fortitude, which I didn't find myself for a while.

Someone in the office just microwaved a breakfast sandwich, I'm guessing one with a sweeter bun or something? Whole downstairs smells like syrup and now I am so hungry and can't stop thinking about pancakes!

I saw a program on TV with a theme of Christmas in July recently. I thought I'd inject a bit of holiday fun into our thread!

QOTD: What are the little fun/silly/goofy/simple traditions your family observes in the days surrounding the Christmas Holidays?

Several years ago we decided stop going anywhere and we would stay home, and so stared 'Lock Down" for us! Christmas Eve we usually go out for breakfast or early lunch, or take in a morning movie. Then we are home and don't leave until for 36-48 hours. It turned out to the be the most relaxing thing for us. No more going here or there Christmas Day - we were on the move so much with kids and school and work that we really came to appreciate taking those two days. Now we don't have little kids, we actually both now have off the 24th until the 2nd, and half the time our adult kids are at the families of their significant others but we still observe 'Lock Down" and look forward to it. We have ever evolving food and movie watching traditions during that time as well. I'm sure once our kids get more established in their lives, buying houses and getting married, we will once again need to adjust and maybe go somewhere on Christmas Eve/Day, but for now we are still loving it.
 
Good Morning hug to all!

Much continuing prayer to PollyannaMom and Lynn! All in need.

:) We needed a fun QOT, thanks Easyas. QOTD: What are the little fun/silly/goofy/simple traditions your family observes in the days surrounding the Christmas Holidays? Two things post pandemic I so look forward to doing with my Dad are riding the new Christmas theme train in Griffith Park. I'm pretty sure you also get to "meet" Santa :santa: Of course it would mean a lot to me once more (I am not a big crowd person and neither is my Dad) to go to DL during Christmas season to see the decorations, A Christmas Fantasy Parade, and the fun of taking some pictures with dressed up characters. With some of you, truly it will be super special to me to get to view Candlelight together. Smaller things in the meantime, I need to get some new card table decor for this year so on Christmas Eve we can set that up with our stockings, etc. In normal years, I would always go to church on Christmas Eve as well. I always no matter what read from the Bible and Santa's Favorite Story (kids' book, too) Fun to think about new ideas for the future, thanks Easyas.
 
@sweetpeama. Prayers sent your way. Teenagers can be difficult. Especially girls!

All of our prayers have been answered. Toni pulled some magic and with the Dr's help, they have agreed to take him up on inpatient rehab!!! Probably tomorrow, and they ordered an xray of his arm to make sure nothing is medically causing the swelling. OT and PT were both here and he was able to take a few more steps than yesterday. They said he is going to have to work hard to show them he can improve or they will discharge him, but they are willing to give him a chance. You probably can feel some of the relief I feel at this moment , and I wanted to share it with my QUACKER family. More later when I have time to answer the QOTD
 
Good afternoon.

@sweetpeama, good luck! And I'm with @easyas123, if she wants to be sure there are 25 items to enter, she needs to be responsible for getting those items together. Heck, she is old enough to drive and needs to be more responsible. Choices and consequences. That is what DD and DSIL do with DGD and she is 4. She can chose to do something or suffer the consequences.

They said he is going to have to work hard to show them he can improve or they will discharge him,
Those are the Medicare regs. A patient has to make reasonable measurable progress towards reasonable goals for Medicare A to continue to pay for the inpatient stay. (I may have used that line a couple million times.) So glad he will be going to rehab.

QOTD: What are the little fun/silly/goofy/simple traditions your family observes in the days surrounding the Christmas Holidays?
We like to go see the Christmas lights at Herrs Potato Chip Factory. They have a big, free, drive thru display every year. I must make Christmas cookies every year too. No matter how few people there are to eat them, I have to bake. Plus, Christmas Eve church is a must. I really missed that last year. We used to like to go to Ronnie's Garden Store to see all their decorations but they closed last year.

Did laundry this morning and going down to Middletown today to take a stroller to DD and go to the Giant Food and the Amish Market. Last night I baked another blueberry cake so will take her some of that too.
 
@pollyanna Mom Continued prayers for your DS. I hope he feels better soon.

Lynn, How wonderful that Toni could get DH into the inpatient rehab. Now he has to show them what he can do. You must be so relieved. Now take care of yourself to be able to take care of DH when he comes home. Still sending prayers.

Teenagers can be so trying at times. My 2 boys were basically good kids but sometimes they could really test me. I have a magnet on my fridge that says "The first 40 years of parenting are the hardest." I still have many more years to go. LOL!
 
Toni pulled some magic and with the Dr's help, they have agreed to take him up on inpatient rehab!!!

Nice! Excellent news for you both! I really can feel the relief in your words.

We used to like to go to Ronnie's Garden Store to see all their decorations but they closed last year.

We'd go around mid-December, on a Sunday, around 7-10 days prior to Christmas to get our tree there, and when they were little the kids picked out a new ornament, too. Stopped at Willy's. Always had breakfast at the old Smyrna dinner. Curious to see what Homestead Ronnie's (that's what I call it now :lmao: ) does for Christmas this year. Nowadays my husband and I will still go over, still do breakfast at new Smyrna dinner, and hit Willy's as well. Some traditions are hard to break!


Got a busy day tomorrow, going to leave the house around 5:30ish to head down to our site on the property of 'big chicken', mr. big chicken is touring that particular site next week and I want to make sure we've got a tight ship for him to see. Then I've got to hot foot it back up here, and get the dog to the vet in Middletown by 1:30, then home to - you guessed it - water the trees! I predict there is a high chance of pizza for dinner, and I happen to know for a fact that I have pizza crust, sauce & cheese. Because I bought them already:rotfl2:
 
@lynxstch glad to hear he got the ok for rehab....I'm sure it's such a relief for you.

Went into the garage to take out the trash and there is water on the floor....I'm guessing from the water heater but I don't see any water leaking from anywhere. Of course DH is out of town for work until next week...ugh. I've gotta get in a tight space to shut off the water valve so we'llbe out of hot water for a little while. DD and I will have to shower at my dad's until DH comes home or I can get someone out to figure it out. Ugh... :sad2: At least it isn't as bad as when we were in Cancun and DD was home alone...she walked into the garage to water shooting out the hot water valve on top, we have no idea how long it was going for entire garage was flooded and we bad to replace some drywall behind the washer and dryer. My dad came to her rescue then and turned off the hot water until we got home. DH replaced the valve and pipe so that's shouldn't be the problem again.
 
The problem is that it was easier to get the 25 items with the projects that 13 year old is taking most of which are done I just need help with getting her photos printed as for some reason the printer set up on this computer is not done where I can click on the photo and select print and the sizing and type of paper ect like I could with my other one (which still works but the power cord doesn't stay in so it doesn't stay charged) due to the printer program not downloading when we tried it.
Out of the 28 exhibits that 13 year old is taking to judging day the breakdown is as follows
4 in open crafts (open means you don't have to be in that project) which are a painting she did with the paint markers and paper we got her for Christmas last year, a sandart piece, a beaded piece which will either be a bracelet or an ornament of some type using beads and pipe cleaners, and a leatherwork flat items.
4 in microwave cooking which we can't do until the night before early thet morning of but I am thinking of having her take the barcookies, brownies, pineapple upside down cake (she will leave one serving of each of those to be displayed though they are taking pictures of food items so when they start to go bad the photo will be displayed instead and the item tossed and then not sure if I will have her do sloppy joes or chicken nuggets but leaning more towards the sloppy joes. also in her book are bacon, potatoes, vegetables with either a lemon butter sauce or a cheese sauce, and macaroni and cheese as well as fondu and making cooked pudding. Even though she did not like it in spite of not trying it I might have her make the bacon and cheese dip for on crackers (it has mayonaise in it and she does not do mayo trust me on that one) as well as allow her to make a variation of it it using honey mustard instead of the mayo that is fairly easy-as that could be done the night before and the not have to worry about keeping it warm though I want to try and locate a insulated cooler bag and using a clean sock with some rice and heating that up to see if a food item will stay hot-we will either take the items some place or I will send it with DH to work to test this. Read about this idea on an article about people trying out for one of those tv non pro cooking shows and thought it might work)
3 leathercraft items consisting of a flat piece, a piece with lacing and a piece with cord lacing these are required for completing the project.
17 phototography exhibits or which 7 are in her project level and 10 are choice ones such as colored flowers, colored landscape, black and white landscape ect of these 5 can be in frames and 5 have to be on photo boards but they really are not too strict on that rule as it seems those boards can not be found evenw when there is not a pandemic shortage though we are going to try our best. These are various stages of being done so starting to print them would be helpful.
I thought she had table setting as well where they do a themed place setting for 2 with a small center piece trust me it's a 2ft x 2 ft space that will not go bad during the time it is up so no fresh flowers,no balloons that type of stuff but it looks like I forgot to enter it so she will not be doing that this year oh well she probally has forgotten that I asked if she wanted to do it and she did sign yes and if she didn't she is my easy going ok I will be upset for a couple of minutes and then all is right with the world child unlike 16 year old who will bring up things from years ago even after you have appologized and made it up to her. If 16 year old had her way she would be an only child with parents who have enough money to let her have anythng and everything she wanted new gaming computer sure let's go buy one for you, anamae convention or going to comicon sure we can do that but much to her dismay she ended up with a we can afford the basics but have to save a lot for extras parents and she has a sister to deal with so if you want something you either wait for Christmas or your Birthday or you save for it yourself especially larger items. (She does have the tablet I orignally purchased so that 13 year old could use it for communication day when hers needed repaired and would not be back that was supposed to be mine, a windows 8 laptop and my old windows 7 laptop. The 8 was purchased specifically for her schooling as a refurbished from a repair someone didn't pick up after 90 days and she just ended up taking the windows 7 one when she wanted a 2nd to run some other items without slowing hers down. Plus she has a phone and we provide her phone card though this month I am so tempted to not provide it unless her attitude changes before it runs out on the 17th. I also provide her with money for her coffee card but that is going to be cut off again until attitude changes. Not that it will do any good because DH will just buy them for her-he is 90% of the problem in truth because he lets her get by with stuff and just gives her what she wants if we can afford it-luckily we can't afford the higher end stuff like trips to anamae conferences or comicon and the like otherwise he would be taking her.
 





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