PVB Tower Charts, Sales Date and more!!!

[Pluto1976]

Could they switch some of the standard view from Tokelau that face the pool or MK to Preferred?

Yes, this! After reading this I looked again at the Points Charts, and see that Lagoon View (LV) is no where to be found. Now this really stinks b/c we would book Poly longhouse studios LV to guarantee we would have a balcony facing the Seven Seas Lagoon/MK in Moorea.

If am reading this right, a "Preferred View" or "P" could be a previous SV room facing the Oasis pool and no longer guarantee a studio in Moorea facing the Seven Seas Lagoon. This would really be downer b/c we love the guarantee of the LV room type being in Moorea and facing the lagoon. Now, to note I notice the bungalows are also designated as "P" when they could easily be categorized as "PM".

 

[TinkAgainU]

Does anyone have any information on 2024 points for February use year? Specifically will we be able to bank those points to 2025 even though it will be after our banking deadline?

I don't know how long you have to make that decision, but I do know they worked around an already "past" banking deadline for one of my DIRECT purchases.

 

[eticketplease]

The issue they could run into in trying to do this depends on the units those rooms were declared into. Each "unit" has a specified number of points, if that changed, it would change a members ownership (since ownership is expressed as a percentage of points in that declared unit). Example, suppose Unit 1A was a group of 10 studios in Tokelau. It has say 104,000 points assigned to it. Someone buys a contract back in PVB1 for Unit 1A for 200 points. In their deed, they will expressly have a .1923077% ownership of Unit 1A. If DVD decided to change those views and make it a total of 120,000 points, then the owner's ownership would not reflect what was on their deed, as it would now be .1666667%.

They did this with the Treehouses at SSR, which some speculate they shouldn't have been able to do, but didn't get a lot of pushback on it. They did get pushback on the lockout chart fiasco back in 2019-2020, so I think that they would be hesitant to push this, though I could be wrong. However, I think now that people are more educated on what the ownership is, if they tried to do that they would probably be challenged on it.

I thought it was about the total points in the resort not the individual units?

Bay lake they converted what were Theme Park view to standard when people complained so that is what I was thinking about.

https://dvcnews.com/resorts/bay-lake-tower/news-44943/4533-bay-lake-tower-s-10th-anniversary

 

[MarkNC2Disney]

Yes, this! After reading this I looked again at the Points Charts, and see that Lagoon View (LV) is no where to be found. Now this really stinks b/c we would book Poly longhouse studios LV to guarantee we would have a balcony facing the Seven Seas Lagoon/MK in Moorea.

If am reading this right, a "Preferred View" or "P" could be a previous SV room facing the Oasis pool and no longer guarantee a studio in Moorea facing the Seven Seas Lagoon. This would really be downer b/c we love the guarantee of the LV room type being in Moorea and facing the lagoon. Now, to note I notice the bungalows are also designated as "P" when they could easily be categorized as "PM".

Oh goodness. This would be a HUGE step back.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Astro, I'm anxious to see what those will look like from the top floors.

BLT higher floors have some great views with higher meaning less of the parking lot to see. While not always the best during the day, at night BLT views are awesome. Poly Tower will add some good competition and a second high tower view into MK (water instead of parking lot). Can't wait to see the pics!

Excellent points. It will be good to see the finished product and if the views match expectations.

The point chart tells me that Disney thinks that it will.

 

[TinkAgainU]

I stand corrected on an earlier post on the prior PVB thread. Poly is now the official flagship with the most points required to book a stay not just at WDW but any DVC resort globally. Glad I already have points from a while back but jeezzz. I guess on the bright side, maybe there will always be availability at x number of months out? 7 months? 6 months? I guess we will see.

So high points chart for PVB.
High dues chart for the Cabins.
High $/point for direct with resale mostly flat for now except for the recent PVB resale spike.

I have a feeling any future new resort coming online will have a "high" something component to it.

High dues (plus taxes) for VDH too.

 

[OnlyTryingToDrownHer]

Current PVB owner. Am I right in assuming that when I can make a points reservation on Oct 15, the same 7 and 11 month windows will still apply?

I'd like to book a PVB Tower stay in January. I'll be able to use all my contract points to book a point reservation, not just PVB points?

 

[JackosinDIS]

Current PVB owner. Am I right in assuming that when I can make a points reservation on Oct 15, the same 7 and 11 month windows will still apply?

I'd like to book a PVB Tower stay in January. I'll be able to use all my contract points to book a point reservation, not just PVB points?

You will only be able to use your PVB points on October 15

 

[tidefan]

I thought it was about the total points in the resort not the individual units?

Bay lake they converted what were Theme Park view to standard when people complained so that is what I was thinking about.

https://dvcnews.com/resorts/bay-lake-tower/news-44943/4533-bay-lake-tower-s-10th-anniversary

It is, but it is also about the individual units as well, because that is how ownership is defined.

It depends on how the Units are declared. For instance, with the BPK addition to VGF, BPK was declared in 2 units, each with 101 rooms IIRC. Now, those units could be mixes of types, for instance, each could have some Standard View, some Lake View, and some Theme Park View, but each unit declared was a certain# of points. If you had a VGF2 deed, you could go look at it and see what that is.

I looked up my Poly deed (190 points purchased in 2017) and I own, as DVD states, "An undivided .4816% in Unit 78 of Disney's Polynesian Villas and Bungalows". Translated, if I divided .004816 by 190, I get roughly 39,452 points that make up Unit 78. It is my understanding that whatever makes up Unit 78, should be represented by that total. If you were to add up the totals for all the declared units (not sure if you need to add the 2% that DVD is required to hold) you would have the total number of points in a condominium association is my understanding.

So it depends on how the unit is formed.

 

[SL6827]

Didn't Disney try the lock off premium crap twice?

 

[mkatsy]

It is, but it is also about the individual units as well, because that is how ownership is defined.

It depends on how the Units are declared. For instance, with the BPK addition to VGF, BPK was declared in 2 units, each with 101 rooms IIRC. Now, those units could be mixes of types, for instance, each could have some Standard View, some Lake View, and some Theme Park View, but each unit declared was a certain# of points. If you had a VGF2 deed, you could go look at it and see what that is.

I looked up my Poly deed (190 points purchased in 2017) and I own, as DVD states, "An undivided .4816% in Unit 78 of Disney's Polynesian Villas and Bungalows". Translated, if I divided .004816 by 190, I get roughly 39,452 points that make up Unit 78. It is my understanding that whatever makes up Unit 78, should be represented by that total. If you were to add up the totals for all the declared units (not sure if you need to add the 2% that DVD is required to hold) you would have the total number of points in a condominium association is my understanding.

So it depends on how the unit is formed.

There are maps (I can’t remember if it is at the comptroller or the property appraiser) that show the floors of the buildings divided up into units. When we bought our first points I remember looking it up, and then going and taking a picture in front of the room.

 

[Sandisw]

Thinking about adding on here but had a question and hoping @Sandisw or someone else can answer.
I am already a blue card holder but I want to start to set up any purchases with my adult children on the deed as well. So here are the questions:
- if I make a add on purchase and add my adult child on the title, will that mean that i would not have the same member number for that contract?
- for my adult child to get DVC privileges (annual passes, etc.) does my add on purchase have to be at least 150points?

Thanks

New owners means new membership. While you would qualify for member pricing…since you are a member…that membership with your kids needs 150 to make them eligible for membership extras.

 

[Sandisw]

I thought it was about the total points in the resort not the individual units?

Bay lake they converted what were Theme Park view to standard when people complained so that is what I was thinking about.

https://dvcnews.com/resorts/bay-lake-tower/news-44943/4533-bay-lake-tower-s-10th-anniversary

When that happened, not all units had been declared or sold…that makes a big difference.

While I think they have some flexibility to do some reclassifying of specific rooms in the original long houses, others do not.

Regardless they still have to keep the number of points sold at each of the original units to what marches. They can’t add points to units declared.

So, to make some SV into PV, they have make some PV back into SV or pull from bungalows to do it.

 

[Kailunkat]

Has anyone figured out the sq footage of each unit type based on the blueprints/plans?

The points chart is high but only slightly higher than I expected (I was expecting that the penthouses would need to be fairly close to the bungalows in point cost, especially since they didn't add a grand villa). I actually tried to pitch the husband on considering AK direct points instead and he was absolutely indignant. For a guy who doesn't like Disney, he sure has opinions. So I guess 150pts PVB/PIT is what we are doing. I do hope there will be at least SOME incentives to bring things down a bit. The $225 base price tells me that DVC wants a win, so I hope they will start out aggressively with the total pricing to offset the high points cost.

 

[Tatebeck]

Honestly I'm not expecting great incentives to start. The Poly is iconic and there are quite a few people that plan on buying ASAP, regardless of the incentives. Offering a great incentive to start would make them lose out on some potential profit. They will likely milk it for 1-3 incentive periods and then once all the "sure thing" buyers have purchased and sales slow a bit, they will then drop some better incentives to attract all the potential buyers sitting on the fence

 

[mkatsy]

Has anyone figured out the sq footage of each unit type based on the blueprints/plans?

The points chart is high but only slightly higher than I expected (I was expecting that the penthouses would need to be fairly close to the bungalows in point cost, especially since they didn't add a grand villa). I actually tried to pitch the husband on considering AK direct points instead and he was absolutely indignant. For a guy who doesn't like Disney, he sure has opinions. So I guess 150pts PVB/PIT is what we are doing. I do hope there will be at least SOME incentives to bring things down a bit. The $225 base price tells me that DVC wants a win, so I hope they will start out aggressively with the total pricing to offset the high points cost.

I know you were shooting for AK … I get it, I live with a Disney grinch. BUT 150 PVB is awesome and I’m over the moon for you enjoy!!!

 

[eticketplease]

When that happened, not all units had been declared or sold…that makes a big difference.

While I think they have some flexibility to do some reclassifying of specific rooms in the original long houses, others do not.

Regardless they still have to keep the number of points sold at each of the original units to what marches. They can’t add points to units declared.

So, to make some SV into PV, they have make some PV back into SV or pull from bungalows to do it.

I know they can't add points but I thought they still could change views also could just reallocate the point chart and change views as long as the total points still balanced out?

 

[Mikey15]

I know they can't add points but I thought they still could change views also could just reallocate the point chart and change views as long as the total points still balanced out?

I believe the argument is the points have to balance out at the “Unit” level, as opposed to the resort level.

It is possible for a unit to comprise multiple room types and view categories, but then it becomes very tricky to make those reallocations the same across multiple units.

 

[Sandisw]

I know they can't add points but I thought they still could change views also could just reallocate the point chart and change views as long as the total points still balanced out?

The point is that to make some of the SV rooms in that one building as preferred, they have to take those points from somewhere and where do they come from?

Maybe the bungalows? Some believe they can’t do that since those were declared as “units” that didn’t include studios.

With the current PVB points already sold out, changing views or specific rooms would be very tough, even if allowed.

If they had wanted to do that, it would have happen. We also need to remember that micromanaging rooms like that can make it difficult to book and control.

And, views are subjective to a certain extent. Take RIV. Some think that SV there should cost more because of fireworks…yet I think having a parking lot view most of time supports the SV.

 

[RuntheMouse]

Does anyone have any information on 2024 points for February use year? Specifically will we be able to bank those points to 2025 even though it will be after our banking deadline?

Direct purchases if purchased after your banking deadline are generally still bankable but you will have to call MS as soon as the points hit your account.

We were able to bank via chat same day the points hit.