Punishment for inappropriate computer use?

[SplashMtnCrew]

They're laughing at you saying "For the record, not all men/boys do this, so please don't believe that type of nonsense."

How do you know that not all men/boys do this?
I've never known a man who has never looked at a naked pic. Unless they're priests. And we all know that isn't always true either. And I know lots of very religious people.

For the record, most girls/women have done it too. Even if they profess not to have done it.

How does anyone know that all men/boys do look at pictures like that? Only the actual person knows the truth, but to assume they are lying just b/c someone finds it hard to believe is assuming guilt with no evidence. "most women/girls have done it too", I'm sorry but that's not true. There isn't anyone who knows every woman/girl or man/boy on earth and every single thing that those people have done. People have no place to make judgements about a total stranger being a liar.

 

[NeverlandClub23]

For the record, most girls/women have done it too. Even if they profess not to have done it.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with being curious, it's human nature. But I do agree with others that he has disobeyed you (OP) and with it being your house and your rules there do need to be consequences. I'm curious as to why you would give him the computer back at the end of the Summer? Does he need the computer? There are computers at public libraries (mine anyways) that are in a separate room with only Microsoft Office applications on them with no access to the Internet if he needed to do papers for school.

 

[cteddiesgirl]

How does anyone know that all men/boys do look at pictures like that? Only the actual person knows the truth, but to assume they are lying just b/c someone finds it hard to believe is assuming guilt with no evidence. "most women/girls have done it too", I'm sorry but that's not true. There isn't anyone who knows every woman/girl or man/boy on earth and every single thing that those people have done. People have no place to make judgements about a total stranger being a liar.

Many people, especially kids, teens and some brought up in strict homes usually lie because they are either too embarassed or to ashamed to tell the truth. Or because they think (or know) that the other person would be upset. Usually until much later. I've known quite a few people who insisted that they never did look at naked pics to most people, but eventually told me or someone else the truth.

But people tell lies to others all the time to hide something that they don't want the other people to know. My own best friend to this day insists to everyone that she was a virgin on her wedding night. But that's because she knows her parents would be pissed at her for admitting the truth (which she told me years ago) that she wasn't.

Have you never looked at a naked picture?

Basically, if a person isn't curious enough to ever look at any naked pics, then I'd say there's probably something wrong somewhere.

 

[Toad_Passenger]

Have you never looked at a naked picture?

Today?

 

[cteddiesgirl]

Today?

LOL!

Well, I haven't today. lol!


But I was asking SplashMtnCrew because it seems as though they must not have to positively say that not all boys do.

 

[donalduck]

The whole problem with this is today's society.

 

[ZephyrHawk]

The whole problem with this is today's society.

Ummm....what?

 

[DigDug]

Today?

Good stuff!

 

[Robinrs]

How does anyone know that all men/boys do look at pictures like that? Only the actual person knows the truth, but to assume they are lying just b/c someone finds it hard to believe is assuming guilt with no evidence. "most women/girls have done it too", I'm sorry but that's not true. There isn't anyone who knows every woman/girl or man/boy on earth and every single thing that those people have done. People have no place to make judgements about a total stranger being a liar.

You can only claim what YOU do. Sure there may be a few people who do not have that curiousity but good LORD if you believe that your sweet DH or DS has never peeked you're in for a true wake up call. And KNOWING how you are about this will guarantee that they will neve own up to it. Thinking it's strange or rare just sets you up for a fall.

No one can claim EVERYONE on ANYTHING, that's a moot statement. But sitting in the dark is almost amazing to me. It exists, like any "taboo" thing. i don't like alcohol but don't think that everyone who drinks is a DUI offender or an alcoholic. The addiction theory is ridiculous.

 

[SplashMtnCrew]

Many people, especially kids, teens and some brought up in strict homes usually lie because they are either too embarassed or to ashamed to tell the truth. Or because they think (or know) that the other person would be upset. Usually until much later. I've known quite a few people who insisted that they never did look at naked pics to most people, but eventually told me or someone else the truth.

But people tell lies to others all the time to hide something that they don't want the other people to know. My own best friend to this day insists to everyone that she was a virgin on her wedding night. But that's because she knows her parents would be pissed at her for admitting the truth (which she told me years ago) that she wasn't.

Have you never looked at a naked picture?
Basically, if a person isn't curious enough to ever look at any naked pics, then I'd say there's probably something wrong somewhere.

But I was asking SplashMtnCrew because it seems as though they must not have to positively say that not all boys do.

Based upon what you've said and know about all people, you wouldn't believe me if I answered honestly when I say that I have never looked at a naked picture. As for what you are asking me in the second quote confused3) I never said that all boys don't, I said (refer to my first post): not all men/boys do look at picutres like that. And that is what I have been saying. I think it's total bull for people to excuse wrong behavior by saying "everyone/most people do _______" (fill in the blank). I also think it's bull for people to generalize men/boys in the way that some have on this thread, which is what I said prior. Just b/c you know people who are telling lies about themselves doesn't mean all people do. Your friend is obviously trying to protect her parents opinion of pre-marital sex by not telling them the truth, that is her decision. However just b/c your friend did it does not mean all people do.

 

[Robinrs]

The whole problem with this is today's society.

Today????

It was MUCH worse in the 60s and 70s when I was growing up, now it's more like the Amish then it was then!!

 

[SplashMtnCrew]

You can only claim what YOU do. Sure there may be a few people who do not have that curiousity but good LORD if you believe that your sweet DH or DS has never peeked you're in for a true wake up call. And KNOWING how you are about this will guarantee that they will neve own up to it. Thinking it's strange or rare just sets you up for a fall.

No one can claim EVERYONE on ANYTHING, that's a moot statement. But sitting in the dark is almost amazing to me. It exists, like any "taboo" thing. i don't like alcohol but don't think that everyone who drinks is a DUI offender or an alcoholic. The addiction theory is ridiculous.

This is an interesting double standard. You say "there may be a few people who do not have that curiousity" followed up by: "if you believe that your sweet DH or DS has never peeked you're in for a true wake up call." How would you know if they were or weren't part of the few people you spoke of that don't? All I'm saying (again) is that people can only speak for themselves, and you even said that. Who said anything about sitting in the dark on the subject? You are not here, you are not knowing of the rest of the world, how would you know anything about it here? You don't, and assuming you do is ridiculous, just b/c a person has an opinion/generalization/stereotype about a group of people or all people doesn't make it so.

 

[donalduck]

Today????

It was MUCH worse in the 60s and 70s when I was growing up, now it's more like the Amish then it was then!!

whatever u say

 

[kidshop]

The whole problem with this is today's society.

No, the problem with this is the instant access to hardcore and worse, available to anyone. Before the internet, the access was greatly restricted and you really had to work hard to get your hands on porn, much less the really degrading and nasty, sometimes illegal stuff you can view with the click of the mouse.

I would not want my ds to see that. It takes away innocence. He can look at all the porn he wants when he's 18. Providing porn or access to porn is not in my job description.

 

[donalduck]

No, the problem with this is the instant access to hardcore and worse, available to anyone. Before the internet, the access was greatly restricted and you really had to work hard to get your hands on porn, much less the really degrading and nasty, sometimes illegal stuff you can view with the click of the mouse.

I would not want my ds to see that. It takes away innocence. He can look at all the porn he wants when he's 18. Providing porn or access to porn is not in my job description.

I also think it's the parents fault also. Parents don't watch what there children do now days.

 

[Happy Mom2]

Personally, I think all children should be supervised when using the computer. There is just too many things that could happen. I would still allow him access to the computer, only in front of you, and for a limited time each day.

 

[phorsenuf]

Today????

It was MUCH worse in the 60s and 70s when I was growing up, now it's more like the Amish then it was then!!

How could it have possibly been worse in the 60's and 70's? To get porn you had to go into a store to obtain it, risking being embarrassed or seen by someone you know. Now it's all anonymous behind a computer screen that anyone has easy access to. If anything I would think it's more rampant.

 

[Toad_Passenger]

How could it have possibly been worse in the 60's and 70's? To get porn you had to go into a store to obtain it, risking being embarrassed or seen by someone you know. Now it's all anonymous behind a computer screen that anyone has easy access to. If anything I would think it's more rampant.

Maybe because it is easier to get to that has made more people try to assert their views on people. I think that is where people feel we've become more Puritanical in our ways.

I get sick and tired of everytime a new Gentleman's Club tries to open around us that we have to hear all sorts of opposition. If you don't want to go there, fine, but don't ruin it for people who DO want to go there.

Certainly I feel that people should be able to protect their children from seeing things they feel are inappropriate, so I do support parental controls and setting guidelines for your own children. However I do draw the line when people try to assert their values onto others, thus ruining an entire industry, or infringing on other peoples' fun.

 

[LisaR]

Personally, I think all children should be supervised when using the computer. There is just too many things that could happen. I would still allow him access to the computer, only in front of you, and for a limited time each day.

Could you elaborate on this? I always wonder what people mean when they make these statements. Are you suggesting that a parent needs to sit right next to their child whenever they are on the computer? Are you talking about all ages?

I believe computers should be kept out of bedrooms and they should be in clear view of parents. However, I can't imagine sitting by my teenagers sides every time one wants to go online.

 

[FireDancer]

Personally, I think all children should be supervised when using the computer. There is just too many things that could happen. I would still allow him access to the computer, only in front of you, and for a limited time each day.

The problem is that there is no possible way to really do this. You could lock down your network with Pentagon level protection that even the NSA couldn't work around and all that your (general your) kid has to do is go to his friend's house where mom and dad know nothing about computers or just don't monitor it's use. I could set your network up so that kids won't work around the security settings and that will give you detailed information about every single site they visit, IM or email they send, and chat room they join, but that doesn't work when they are little Johnny's house where mom and dad have a wide open connection and a computer in the corner of the basement.

I think it is much better to prepare you kids for what they will inevitably see and talk about it with them then pretend they will never see a naked picture or worse on the Internet.

That last part wasn't directed at the quoted poster, just a statement in general.