Pulling kids out of school?

[beattyfamily]

Originally posted by Efastpitch
My DH was against missing any school, but you all were able to change his mind.

From your very nasty and judgemental posts I highly doubt it was only your DH who was against you kids missing any school.

I've been following this thread from the beginning and I've read every one of your posts and I don't believe your turn around although you've managed to fool some others.

You haven't even appologized for the nasty insults and calling jcemom a liar a few pages back.

 

[JPN4265]

Originally posted by beattyfamily
From your very nasty and judgemental posts I highly doubt it was only your DH who was against you kids missing any school.

I've been following this thread from the beginning and I've read every one of your posts and I don't believe your turn around although you've managed to fool some others.

You haven't even appologized for the nasty insults and calling jcemom a liar a few pages back.

Boy we are in a nasty mood.

 

[beattyfamily]

Originally posted by JPN4265
Boy we are in a nasty mood.

I'm in a fine mood, thanks. I just don't buy her/his turn around. You certainly can if you want to.

Are you sure you read all his/her posts? He/she's the nasty one. I don't think he/she just suddenly saw the light. I think it's a bunch of hogwash but you can believe whatever you want.

He/she's the one who started all the nasty judgemental posts and didn't hold anything back against parents who take their kids out of school for Disney vacations, not me.

I have every right not to believe his/her sudden "seeing of the light" hogwash.

I believe his/her sudden turn around posts are sarcasm pure and simple and I know I'm not the only one.

If that means I'm nasty well then I guess I am.

 

[JPN4265]

I went back and reread the post, and all I see is one persons very stong opinion about should you take your kids out of school or not. You have your opinions as do others. I don't see were you can justify condemning someone for opinions that don't agree with yours. Also, no where did I see EFastPitch calling anyone a liar. I read one post where he found it hard to believe a statement, but he did not call them a liar. I think the appologize should come from you.

 

[disneyjunkie]

Why does it even matter to you?

 

[beattyfamily]

Originally posted by JPN4265
I went back and reread the post, and all I see is one persons very stong opinion about should you take your kids out of school or not. You have your opinions as do others. I don't see were you can justify condemning someone for opinions that don't agree with yours. Also, no where did I see EFastPitch calling anyone a liar. I read one post where he found it hard to believe a statement, but he did not call them a liar. I think the appologize should come from you.

I don't care that Efastpitch disagrees about taking kids out of school and I'm not condemning his/her opinion, I'm condemning how Efastpitch went about telling us how selfish we are and how wrong we are. Efastpitch did all the nasty attacking and judging first dear. NO ONE here condemned Efastpitch for his/her opinion but for how he presented it.

Don't hold your breath on my appology.

 

[Kevs mom]

I am with you beattyfamily, I too have followed this post from the beginning and could not believe the posts by Efastpitch (even shared them with my DH). There is a difference between having your own opinion about something and being completely judgmental about what others do, telling us "we are ruining our kids lives" etc. was ridiculous. It is very hard to believe that someone that had so many remarks about other parents could do such an about face on the issue. You were right, you certainly don't owe anyone an apology!

 

[JPN4265]

Originally posted by disneyjunkie
Why does it even matter to you?

I would guess, for the same reason's it matters to you?

 

[beattyfamily]

Originally posted by Kevs mom
I am with you beattyfamily, I too have followed this post from the beginning and could not believe the posts by Efastpitch (even shared them with my DH). There is a difference between having your own opinion about something and being completely judgmental about what others do, telling us "we are ruining our kids lives" etc. was ridiculous. It is very hard to believe that someone that had so many remarks about other parents could do such an about face on the issue. You were right, you certainly don't owe anyone an apology!

Thanks so much!

 

[disneyjunkie]

Originally posted by JPN4265
I would guess, for the same reason's it matters to you?

I happen to agree with you.

My question was in response to BF not you. I should have used the quote feature.

 

[JPN4265]

Originally posted by disneyjunkie
I happen to agree with you.

My question was in response to BF not you. I should have used the quote feature.

Okay

 

[4greatboys]

If Efastpitch changed her/his mind thats great, and if not thats great too. Its okay to have either opinion about taking the kids out of school. However Efastpitch was condesending and insulting in several previous posts

Originally posted by Efastpitch
Go ahead and pull your kids out of school if you wish, but don't expect the teacher to provide you with make up work or test. Sorry your kids lose the right to the make up work because of your decission to pull them out of class. Who does it hurt? Only your kids. Hey, but enjoy your vacation.

To me this implies that we will take our kids out no matter if it hurts them or not and that we would vacation at the expense of our kids--when many of us stated we only take the kids out if they are doing well.

Originally posted by Efastpitch
I can't believe all the excuses for justifying taking your kids out of school. You can come up with all types of excuses, but it still comes down to what you want and not what is best for your child.

As for excuses, none were owed to Efastpitch. Parents were simply telling what they did and why they did it. Efastpitch still stating that we only wanted what we wanted and did not take our kids into consideration.

Originally posted by Efastpitch
What it finally comes down to is, you are taking your kids out of school for your own selfish reasons. You want to go when the price is low and the crowds are smaller.

Again putting down the parents who do takes their kid sout of school and not knowing any of the family dynamics or if the parents vacation in the off season because their jobs require them to.
Im not tying to pick on Efastpitch, just showing that some of the comments were not nice. Efastpitch could have simply stated that she/he does not take their kids out of school, that they dont believe in their kids missing school. Which is great, more power to them but no need to say those things to the others.

 

[JPN4265]

It looks like that efastpitch was telling it the way they saw it. I did not read into the post that he was telling you how to raise your kids, only that you had to accept any consequence's to your actions. I still don't see where anyone was called a liar. But everyone has an opinion.

 

[sunrise010]

Well I wisj our school district was as lenient as all of yours seem to be. I have 2 children a 3 yr old and 16yr old. I planned a disney vacation and then learned that my son who is a sophomore in high school is not allowed to miss 5 days in one term or they will automatically fail him. With the price of Disney during vacation weeks I think this is very unfair. Myself, my husband and my 3 yr old will be visiting Disney and my older son will fly down friday after school to join us for the Disney 4 night cruise and fly back home on Thursday so as not to miss Friday the following week. We were originally all planning to leave on Thursday visit Disney for a cuople of days then cruise then back to Disney for the following weekend. But since he can't miss 5 days he will come after school on Friday and leave Thursday night after the cruise. Once a student misses 5 unexcused days (doc note etc.) you have to go in a fight the school board. I was thinking of saying it was a family emergency but really don't think it fair that I should have to lie to take my son on a family vacation. What kind of example is that setting. My son has been a very good student and I see no reason why he should be punished in this way. I can see if they are skipping school or are just having a hard time but that is not the case here. So my son decided he;d rather do the cruise then Disney and we had to change our plans around to make sure he didn't miss 5 days. Now I just pray he isn't sick the rest of the term.

 

[Ddude]

I typically only post on other Disney boards, but really felt I had to mention something here. This should really be moved out of the tips area. Now that that's out of the way...

School is not the end-all be-all form of education that many "educators" would like us to believe. It seems our society has put way more value on what the school says and teaches than what family experience can teach. Far too much time is spent trying to indoctrinate out kids into multicultural, multi lifestyle acceptance than any true life values. For a school or teacher, or any other person to assume that I cannot make a judgment as to weather or not I (take my kids on vacation, stay home and do nothing, spend the day at the park, whatever...) is becoming too involved in my personal life. Parents should never feel guilty when doing anything that is family or children oriented. I've kept my kids out of school to spend a wonderful sunny spring day on our boat. Do I feel guilty saying they were ill, not at all. The schools have taught us that honesty will many times be dealt with harshly and with far more consequences than being untruthful or downright lying. Somewhere we lost the idea that the schools are here for out kids, not the other way around. If your kids are good students and YOU have taught them to have true values, then by all means, let them spend time with their parents in whatever form that takes. It's assumed by any negative posters on this topic that every parent has a schedule that matched the school system. What reality is this? The point is, our kids are our responsibility and they deserve whatever special time with us we can give. If that's DW or a a day at the beach or whatever, it's our right!

 

[memymomonica]

Wow, I feel for Sunrise010. I would personally fight the school board, but that is me. I am lucky that my daughter is in a DOD (dept. of defense) School. With our life, family vacations are planned around when Dad is home. Family is so important!! Don't get me wrong, school is important too. I just think that Disney is a learning experience.

I agree that efastpitch had a "tone" to her/his posts. I think they were a little judgemental. I guess it depends on how you read it. I heard a tone though.

 

[Efastpitch]

Originally posted by sunrise010
Well I wisj our school district was as lenient as all of yours seem to be. I have 2 children a 3 yr old and 16yr old. I planned a disney vacation and then learned that my son who is a sophomore in high school is not allowed to miss 5 days in one term or they will automatically fail him. With the price of Disney during vacation weeks I think this is very unfair. Myself, my husband and my 3 yr old will be visiting Disney and my older son will fly down friday after school to join us for the Disney 4 night cruise and fly back home on Thursday so as not to miss Friday the following week. We were originally all planning to leave on Thursday visit Disney for a cuople of days then cruise then back to Disney for the following weekend. But since he can't miss 5 days he will come after school on Friday and leave Thursday night after the cruise. Once a student misses 5 unexcused days (doc note etc.) you have to go in a fight the school board. I was thinking of saying it was a family emergency but really don't think it fair that I should have to lie to take my son on a family vacation. What kind of example is that setting. My son has been a very good student and I see no reason why he should be punished in this way. I can see if they are skipping school or are just having a hard time but that is not the case here. So my son decided he;d rather do the cruise then Disney and we had to change our plans around to make sure he didn't miss 5 days. Now I just pray he isn't sick the rest of the term.

That doesn't sound right. Since we will be taking our kids out of school for two weeks, I guess we should check on this before we leave. I hope this does not become a problem for our family.

 

[hellow]

Our schools have the same "no more than 5 days unexcused absence or there is credit denial". However, an EXCUSED absence is anything that the parent excuses (including vacations). If the student skips 5 days or more, that is where the credit denial comes into play.

Sunrise 010: I would be very unhappy with a school district that was so strict! Sorry you had to change your plans

 

[Gomez Gang]

Growing up, my parents always took my sisters and I out of school the second week of May to go to WDW. It was just a given that we HAD to be getting good grades and HAD to make up the work. The alternative was to stay home with our Aunt. My sisters and I NEVER stayed home! To us it was worth the extra effort! We all turned out o.k and have successful lives!

I have taken my daughter out of school the past 2 years and am planning on doing it every year. (along with her younger brother and sister). She is a good student and I am a devoted parent. I make it clear that this is our family lifestyle. The principal at our school as well as her teachers have always been very supportive. (I also volunteer a lot and am on the PTA board so I don't know if that makes the difference!)

Do what is best for your family....just remember that traveling is an education in itself and your trip can be as educational as you make it.

Have fun!

 

[simplyannie]

This is a controversial issue. As a former high school English teacher, I understand the concerns. However, family always comes first. We live in Alaska, so when we fly out, it takes a whole day just to get there -not to mention the expense.
So, our kids miss 10-14 days when we leave. We have tried every approach - getting assignments done ahead of time, journals, reading charts, work packets, etc. and found that the best way to do it is just to center the trip as a "family situation" and leave it at that with the administration. I don't tell them until the day before, so it's too "rushed" for work packets. (Which we don't want.)
We don't have the kids take work with them anymore. Our time together is precious and the money we spend is for this trip. So our vacation time is OUR time. Our oldest son is graduating from high school in May and he got to pick the family vacation location (we go every other year.) We were thrilled he chose Disneyworld again. This is our third time down there and it's a "full circle." When they first went, they were just "starting" school, and this trip is recognizing him "finishing" school.
So, that's my input. Take the vacation. Leave it vague, so you don't have to deal with details. It's no one's business. Do the work when you return. There's always time. But, there's never always time for family.