robinb
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Hello all DIS attorneys and lawyer-wanna-bes.
First, a little background. I have a friend, Kim, who lives in Illinois. She's in her mid-60's and moved back into her family home 35 years ago when she was divorced. I believe that Kim is on social security now. She has 3 sisters who live in the area and a brother who also lives in the family home. Kim's mom was a hoarder and the house is full of stuff and antiques. Kim was her father's caregiver before he died and was her mother's caregiver after that. Her mom died in May 2022 and one of the sisters is the executor for the estate.
The sister, quite understandably, wants to sell the house and close the probate. She gave Kim and her brother basically 30 days notice to clean the house and get out. Her sisters have told her that, since they live there, she and the brother need to do all the work to clean the hoard and prepare the house to be sold. So, Kim now needs to go through all of her 35-years of stuff PLUS all her mother's stuff. The sister told her that they already had a year to do all of this but they were not actually given a deadline until last month. It's not clear if the expectation that they clean the mom's stuff up was expressed to them before that.
I had a similar thing happen to me, except it was my sister who was the caregiver for my mom in the family hoardy-home and I was the executor. My sister was unable to help and I knew that I could not get the house ready to sell alone. I hired a company to clean the home when my sister moved out and that expense was paid back immediately out of the sale of the house at closing so the expense was shared equally even though I had not lived there in over 30 years.
Kim's sisters believe that Kim and her brother have the sole responsibility to ready the house for sale. Kim is struggling to clean up her own 35 years worth of stuff. She has never been in the best of health and she's working through joint pain and back spasms to do her best. It's pretty clear that she won't have the house sales ready by the end of the month. The sister had told them that if they need to hire a company to finish the job the cost of the clean-up will be deducted from their portion of the estate. Can she legally do that? Can she deduct the cost of cleaning from the estate proceeds of only 2 of the siblings? It's my opinion that if all of the siblings are participating in the proceeds of the house then all of them should also participate in the expenses to make it ready to sell. If Kim's sister goes through with the threat to deduct the costs from her share of the estate, what recourse does she have? It's a little fuzzy, but I think that my sister had to sign off on the distribution and I also seem to recall a point in my mom's probate where there was a time that someone can object to the distribution of the estate. I know that she *should* probably hire an attorney but she's on a very fixed income and probably can't afford one. Any ideas I can pass on to her?
First, a little background. I have a friend, Kim, who lives in Illinois. She's in her mid-60's and moved back into her family home 35 years ago when she was divorced. I believe that Kim is on social security now. She has 3 sisters who live in the area and a brother who also lives in the family home. Kim's mom was a hoarder and the house is full of stuff and antiques. Kim was her father's caregiver before he died and was her mother's caregiver after that. Her mom died in May 2022 and one of the sisters is the executor for the estate.
The sister, quite understandably, wants to sell the house and close the probate. She gave Kim and her brother basically 30 days notice to clean the house and get out. Her sisters have told her that, since they live there, she and the brother need to do all the work to clean the hoard and prepare the house to be sold. So, Kim now needs to go through all of her 35-years of stuff PLUS all her mother's stuff. The sister told her that they already had a year to do all of this but they were not actually given a deadline until last month. It's not clear if the expectation that they clean the mom's stuff up was expressed to them before that.
I had a similar thing happen to me, except it was my sister who was the caregiver for my mom in the family hoardy-home and I was the executor. My sister was unable to help and I knew that I could not get the house ready to sell alone. I hired a company to clean the home when my sister moved out and that expense was paid back immediately out of the sale of the house at closing so the expense was shared equally even though I had not lived there in over 30 years.
Kim's sisters believe that Kim and her brother have the sole responsibility to ready the house for sale. Kim is struggling to clean up her own 35 years worth of stuff. She has never been in the best of health and she's working through joint pain and back spasms to do her best. It's pretty clear that she won't have the house sales ready by the end of the month. The sister had told them that if they need to hire a company to finish the job the cost of the clean-up will be deducted from their portion of the estate. Can she legally do that? Can she deduct the cost of cleaning from the estate proceeds of only 2 of the siblings? It's my opinion that if all of the siblings are participating in the proceeds of the house then all of them should also participate in the expenses to make it ready to sell. If Kim's sister goes through with the threat to deduct the costs from her share of the estate, what recourse does she have? It's a little fuzzy, but I think that my sister had to sign off on the distribution and I also seem to recall a point in my mom's probate where there was a time that someone can object to the distribution of the estate. I know that she *should* probably hire an attorney but she's on a very fixed income and probably can't afford one. Any ideas I can pass on to her?
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