Pro-Life/Pro-Choice

[AmandaSparks730]

Well...

If you had cancer/AIDS, then...abortion isn't AS BAD (not saying it's fine, but it's not as bad) because well...you don't have long to live anyway. You could die within those 9 months, and the baby would die, too.

I would have to choose adoption, only because I cannot have a baby myself (especially with a same-sex partner). With a life partner, I wouldn't want the insemination (kinda icky, and you don't know the donor most of the time).

 

[Sparx]

i dont think life begins at conception.

 

[Nomi]

It's a living - growing cell...of a human being. That is enough for me, personally, to classify it as a baby. You can't compare humans to insects...because then you're just justifying every murder made in this world by saying it's okay to kill insects so why not humans? lol.

Not at all, but it's not human at that point. A cancer also has human DNA, a growing mass of human DNA, but it's not an organism. I do not think that abortion is murder in any sense. Saying abortion is murder is like saying every time a woman has her period and expels an egg it's murder. An embryo is no more human than an egg or sperm. Sure, the potential is there, but then again if we base it off that then every time a woman is able to get pregnant but choses not to, it's murder, since the potential is there. Abortion =/= murder.

 

[Tinker_Bell_Crazy101]

I'm tossed between the two.
Because right at conception it's considered a life, a human being. So I do, indeed, think it's wrong to have an abortion.
I did a whole big report about how it's unwise to have one.
Buuut, on the other hand, I can't control a woman's life.

I agree. It's a womans choice, but it's not what i would choose

 

[Nomi]

It's proved that within 21 days it has a heartbeat.
Just because it's not fully developed doesn't mean you should kill it.
Many a people have defects, which means some of their body parts/cells aren't fully developed. Should you kill them too?
People that are considered vegetables don't have the control to think. Should you just kill them right away?

That is a different matter, seeing as how they are born, and even if they cannot exist on their own, they are not attached to one person and dependent off them like a parasite. Apples and oranges, it's a completly different debate.


A fetus doesn't even develop a heart until 11-17 (thats much more than 21 days) weeks in, and doesn't start beating on it's own until much later. That said, the heart itself is nothing more than a muscle that pumps blood. More importently, the brain, or rather the thalamic connections that make the brain able to function, don't form until weeks 28-40. Now consider that most abortions are induced in the first few weeks, when it is still little more than a bundle of cells.

I think a better term for people who want two people who made an honest mistake to go through pregnancy is 'Pro-Punishment' instead of 'Pro-Life'.

 

[Stitchtastic]

Ok, now a lot of people say "Why have abortion when you can give the baby away later?" . Some times women don't want to go through pregnancy - it's a painful experience. And especially if they are rape victims I can understand them not wanting to have to carry that baby - even though the fetus/baby didn't do anything wrong.

That's just my opinion.

 

[life of the party]

for everyone who is saying that if you really dont want the baby, put it up for adoption & not get an abortion.

Some of these girls are young in like highschool and shouldnt have to have the 9 months of pregnancy in school , and have to take the time out for having the baby .

I am pro-choice .
People should not be FORCED to have a baby they REALLY dont want, and when the law was you had to have it women were having abortions anyway illegally and sometimes with un-qualified doctors .

 

[Tinkerbell424]

Then those kids should not have been having sex. If you can't handle the potential consequences of having sex then you shouldnt be taking the risk. When you have sex you automatically take the responsibility of possibly getting pregnant or getting an STD.

 

[Cinderelli16]

Then those kids should not have been having sex. If you can't handle the potential consequences of having sex then you shouldnt be taking the risk. When you have sex you automatically take the responsibility of possibly getting pregnant or getting an STD.

 

[Nomi]

Then those kids should not have been having sex. If you can't handle the potential consequences of having sex then you shouldnt be taking the risk. When you have sex you automatically take the responsibility of possibly getting pregnant or getting an STD.

So your pro-punishment then. How dare that woman have sex, now lets make her go through 9 months of pain and life-ruining pregnancy and bring an unwanted kid into the world, that'll show her for being human!

 

[Zip-A-Dee-Lady]

Think about it this way:

If abortion were to be made illegal, some women would still get abortions on the black market using stuff like knitting needles and coat hangers.


It's best to just keep abortion legal where it can also guarantee the woman's safety.


I'm probably gonna get bashed for this....

 

[Cinderelli16]

So your pro-punishment then. How dare that woman have sex, now lets make her go through 9 months of pain and life-ruining pregnancy and bring an unwanted kid into the world, that'll show her for being human!

That's not at all what she was saying.
She said that women should be aware of the consequences that can occur when you have sex.
She's not saying that a woman should suffer, she just said that they need to be responsible for their actions.

 

[Nomi]

That's not at all what she was saying.
She said that women should be aware of the consequences that can occur when you have sex.
She's not saying that a woman should suffer, she just said that they need to be responsible for their actions.

Yes, responsible enough to get an abortion is they so choose. Also, this sort of thinking does target women specifically, and to me it seems to stem from the thinking thats it's ok for men to have sex but not women.

 

[Shelton123]

I'm a liberal, so Pro-Choice.

 

[Tinkerbell424]

So your pro-punishment then. How dare that woman have sex, now lets make her go through 9 months of pain and life-ruining pregnancy and bring an unwanted kid into the world, that'll show her for being human!

No.
But if you do something that you KNOW you can have consequences for, your taking responsibility for it. If they really don't want the baby, I don't believe you should kill it. Give it up for adoption to a couple, or to a person who really wants a child and cant get pregnant on their own.

I'm not saying she should suffer at all since she had sex. But if a 16 year old couple had sex and the girl got pregnant, I believe they should take responsibility and not kill an innocent soul for their mistake.

JMO.

ETA; I would never get an abortion, and I am pro-life, but I do believe every women should have the choice to or not. But if a woman is aborting a baby because she was fooling around and can't support the baby emotionally or money wise, then in my opinion she should give it up for adoption. No one has to agree with that statement, but it's just my belief.

 

[life of the party]

Then those kids should not have been having sex. If you can't handle the potential consequences of having sex then you shouldnt be taking the risk. When you have sex you automatically take the responsibility of possibly getting pregnant or getting an STD.

okay, maybe the shouldnt have but why punish them if they dont have to be .

So your pro-punishment then. How dare that woman have sex, now lets make her go through 9 months of pain and life-ruining pregnancy and bring an unwanted kid into the world, that'll show her for being human!

exactly !

 

[Tinkerbell424]

okay, maybe the shouldnt have but why punish them if they dont have to be .

Saying this wasn't a rape..
Nobody forced them to have sex. Having sex, symbolizes that you are ready to handle whatever life throws your way from the sex. If you can't handle it, then you simply shouldn't have done it. If you did, and you unfortunately got an std or pregnant then I believe it's your responsibility to take care of that child for 9 monthes and simply give it up for adoption to more responsible people.

If you don't want the punishment of missing school for 9 monthes and handling a baby, then just don't have sex until your absolutely ready.

 

[life of the party]

Saying this wasn't a rape..
Nobody forced them to have sex. Having sex, symbolizes that you are ready to handle whatever life throws your way from the sex. If you can't handle it, then you simply shouldn't have done it. If you did, and you unfortunately got an std or pregnant then I believe it's your responsibility to take care of that child for 9 monthes and simply give it up for adoption to more responsible people.

If you don't want the punishment of missing school for 9 monthes and handling a baby, then just don't have sex until your absolutely ready.

That is not what sex symbolizes .

I say let people do what they want .
Its only human , whatever .

I know i cant change your mind, so im just going to believe what i want to believe and if you want to be like that you can .

 

[Tinkerbell424]

That is not what sex symbolizes .

I say let people do what they want .
Its only human , whatever .

I know i cant change your mind, so im just going to believe what i want to believe and if you want to be like that you can .

Yes it is only human, but why should two people's mistakes result in someone's life being taken away?

I hope it didn't sound like I was forcing you into believing my side, I totally respect your opinions and beliefs.

 

[Loves Disney]

Not at all, but it's not human at that point. A cancer also has human DNA, a growing mass of human DNA, but it's not an organism. I do not think that abortion is murder in any sense. Saying abortion is murder is like saying every time a woman has her period and expels an egg it's murder. An embryo is no more human than an egg or sperm. Sure, the potential is there, but then again if we base it off that then every time a woman is able to get pregnant but choses not to, it's murder, since the potential is there. Abortion =/= murder.

An embryo is a bit more than that. A fetus is definitely more than that. Reading through other posts that you have left, I just don't seem to agree with much anything you are saying, lol, so there is really no use in trying to convince you to understand what I mean, lol. It's my personal belief that an embryo and fetus are considered alive and babies...and therefore, I see abortions are murder in all aspects. That's MY opinion.