Pooh sized??? really now...I'm gonna get flamed

[dustysky]

Oh how cool, we have a PEFECT person on the DIS!! Thats new ...... bwahhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!

 

[ducklite]

While I don't agree with the tone of the OP's post, I do believe that there is a nationwide epidemic--both of the obesity itself, and of becoming complacent with thinking it's OK to be morbidly overweight.

Simply put, for those who do not have a medical reason behind the weight problem, we all know that in reality, it's not OK. Of course many struggle with losing weight or keeping it off, but I do believe for every person who is seriously trying to live a healthier lifestyle, two or more just have given up.

My concern is very much for the long term financial implications that we as a country will have to face to treat the diseases associated with what is generally an avoidable situation for someone who is truly committed.

Unlike taxing cigarettes to pay for the healthcare of those with smoking related illnesses, we can't tax food to pay for obesity related illnesses.

I'm also concerned about the growing trend for various surgical relief. Bottom line, all a gastric bypass does is reduce food consumption. That is something that can be done with willpower, it does not require surgery. Except in a few people with hormonal or other physiological conditions or pharmacuetical related weight gains, it's all about diet. Calories in versus calories burned.

Why are the rates of obsesity so high these days? Sedentary lifestyle--I do believe that we are far less active than we used to be as a country. Overbooked lives where fast food too often replaces healthy nutritious home cooked meals. Hormones and additives that are in our foods--I seldom hear this as a cause, but do wonder if there is a relation.

What is the answer? I don't know. I struggle to keep the weight off myself. It's not an easy thing to do, but I do manage to keep my weight within the normal range for my height and build.

I do believe that *most* morbidly obese people need psychiatric treatment, nutritional counseling, and a strong support group to lose the weight. I'm not saying anyone is nuts, but I do believe that often morbidly obese people have eating disorders and self-esteem issues, and need the treatment of a team of professionals to allow them to not only lose the weight but also keep it off long term. Unfortunately many health insurers do not cover this type of treatment, which is of course short-sighted.

I don't have the answers, but I do know that something must be done, because we're slowly eating ourselves to death.

Anne

 

[inaminute]

But as an adult, a sahm with 3 kids under 7, whose husband works A LOT and travels A LOT, who is on my own A LOT, manages to stay healthy and fit...and I do so by the choices I make every single day. And its not always easy but fast food and pre made foods are not an option. Not exercising is not an option.

Good for you.

How's it feel to be better than the rest of us lazy fat slobs?

 

[Laurajean1014]

Well, since we starting naming people for their appearance, let's not stop there....

Big People = Pooh Size
Smokers = Cheshire Cats
Back Issues = Quasimoto
Crabby = Sabastian
All girls = Princesses
Cowboys = Woody
Space Cadets = Buzz's
Aliens = Stitch
Anger management patients = Donald Duck
Overly happy = Mickey or Minnie Mouse (depending on gender)
Strong = Hercules


Isn't that why Disney makes all these different characters, so we can relate to them?

It's a form of describing someone or something...

Care to continue?

 

[babydougie]

I hope you aren't raising your kids with that awful attitude! I would really hate to see what kind of young adults they turn into with a mother who is so self rightgeous.

 

[Bella the Ball 360]

I also won't flame you, but this post comes across as incredibly judgemental and sanctimonious.

YOu are right !
As to the OP let me just say that when I see anyone with a disabilty or less fortunate I think of an expression my mother used to say to me when I was JUDGEMENTAL.."There but for the grace of God go I"

Do you think that people who are heavy LIKE IT? While I am on the heavier side I am not all that fat but there is not ONE DAY that I am not on a diet. I cannot put ONE piece of food in my mouth without thinking of it. IN high school I put my finger down my throat AND exercised excessively just to maintain 130 lbs and a size 9...HUGE by today's stupid standards.

OP GET OVER IT.

 

[MushyMushy]

What is this, bash fat people week???



And Anne, we already do tax food. Grocery food isn't taxed, at least in PA, but restaurant food sure is. No reason that money can't be diverted to health care. But then if that ever happened, people would just have to find a new PC thing to ***** about when it comes to fatties, rather than owning up to their true feelings.

I prefer when people like the OP show their true prejudices. Lets me know who to avoid in life.

 

[MushyMushy]

I hope you aren't raising your kids with that awful attitude! I would really hate to see what kind of young adults they turn into with a mother who is so self rightgeous.

Unfortunately, bigots typically do pass their prejudices on to their children.

 

[michvin]

While I don't agree with the tone of the OP's post, I do believe that there is a nationwide epidemic--both of the obesity itself, and of becoming complacent with thinking it's OK to be morbidly overweight.

Simply put, for those who do not have a medical reason behind the weight problem, we all know that in reality, it's not OK. Of course many struggle with losing weight or keeping it off, but I do believe for every person who is seriously trying to live a healthier lifestyle, two or more just have given up.

My concern is very much for the long term financial implications that we as a country will have to face to treat the diseases associated with what is generally an avoidable situation for someone who is truly committed.

Unlike taxing cigarettes to pay for the healthcare of those with smoking related illnesses, we can't tax food to pay for obesity related illnesses.

I'm also concerned about the growing trend for various surgical relief. Bottom line, all a gastric bypass does is reduce food consumption. That is something that can be done with willpower, it does not require surgery. Except in a few people with hormonal or other physiological conditions or pharmacuetical related weight gains, it's all about diet. Calories in versus calories burned.

Why are the rates of obsesity so high these days? Sedentary lifestyle--I do believe that we are far less active than we used to be as a country. Overbooked lives where fast food too often replaces healthy nutritious home cooked meals. Hormones and additives that are in our foods--I seldom hear this as a cause, but do wonder if there is a relation.

What is the answer? I don't know. I struggle to keep the weight off myself. It's not an easy thing to do, but I do manage to keep my weight within the normal range for my height and build.

I do believe that *most* morbidly obese people need psychiatric treatment, nutritional counseling, and a strong support group to lose the weight. I'm not saying anyone is nuts, but I do believe that often morbidly obese people have eating disorders and self-esteem issues, and need the treatment of a team of professionals to allow them to not only lose the weight but also keep it off long term. Unfortunately many health insurers do not cover this type of treatment, which is of course short-sighted.

I don't have the answers, but I do know that something must be done, because we're slowly eating ourselves to death.

Anne

very "politically correct", but I just want to thank you for getting the point.

I in no way meant to attack everyone who was overweight...I was speaking to the obese population that is so for lack of care and concern about their and their family's health. I never said that being thin was the way to go...or that "fad diets" were the way to go...or that starving yourself was the way to go. I spoke to the acceptance of it all.

I too am concerned about insurance cost of supporting a country of people who have ailments based obesity...and how it is going to impact the already problematic discussion of medicare and social security.

And I struggle to maintain my healthy physique and weight, which to the surprise of those who did personally attack my character, I realize muscle weighs more than fat...I never said you should be thin, thin, thin...I said healthy.

There are more and more people at a younger age with osteoarthritis and diabetes...I'm not being judgemental...I'm being realistic.

I may have put it on the wrong thread, and for that I apologize and I may not have the tact of Madeline Albright...but really, its a problem that is okay with over 30% of the US population. And its really a shame that people have to factor their NON-MEDICALLY induced physical limitations into their family vacation (its interesting how people read right over my initial comments so they can get their jabs in....)

Again, I never attacked a sole person....I just brought to light how easy it is for society to accept an issue because a high number of the population is okay with it. If the thread was directed at a less acceptable form of behaviour such as smoking, or bad children, or rude adults, or drunk people at the parks it would have been received differently.

 

[poohandwendy]

Wow.

Surely there is a better way to open a dialog about problems with obesity.

I guess I don't understand the OP's point. So, because being obese is a unhealthy way to live, we should chastise people for not using terms that reflect the shame they should be feeling? I mean, that is the feeling I am getting from the OP. It's a 'don't you dare call it anything less than horrible, because you should be ashamed of yourself' attitude. That is what I am reading. So...exactly how is that going to solve any problems?

Sorry, but I am pretty sure condemnation has not been proven to be an effective weight loss solution.

 

[poohandwendy]

Again, I never attacked a sole person....I just brought to light how easy it is for society to accept an issue because a high number of the population is okay with it.

No, you attacked a whole group and painted with a broad brush, making assumptions about their lifestyles.

The problem is, you assume that the term 'pooh size' is accepting the issue. It's accepting the people who have the issues. You are attacking the people rather than the issue. Big difference.

 

[magicmouse2]

I like the Pooh, size name, its cute, I didnt think we were talking about the 50 stone man here ! Thats a different matter. I think of Pooh size as cuddly. Not obese. Many people are just genetically made up to be of larger build. I know I fight every day to keep in shape after 3 kids, its hard work! - strenuous workouts, avoiding dessert (and I LOVE dessert) and I do this because people judge you by your weight and because of the pressure to look good. I dont however like the fact that the media is saturated with photos of actresses and singers with sticky out ribs. That is not healthy and IMHO is as bad as being obese. Many of these celebs later confess to drug addiction or eating disorders. I dont condone downright obesity and gluttony, but I feel for those who struggle to lose weight and find it difficult due to metabolism.
In the UK many Brits seem to think the USA is made up of really 'fat' people. I disagree with them. In the parks I have seen so many well toned slim people, eating healthily, with better physiques than most Brits. In the UK we dont have the all you can eat breakfasts, lunches and dinners type of restaurants. We have a couple of Chinese buffets or Texas buffets, and I think a lot of these type of restuarants can add to health problems, if people choose to avoid the salads and pastas and plate up on fried chicken and dessert. I personally love these buffets cos we dont have them over here and the variety is incredible, but thats a holiday treat for me and I can work it off when I get home. I am pleased WDW are starting to offer more healthy choices. Back to the point I dont mind the term Pooh Size at all. Now someone who weighs 50 stone and cant leave his bed is a different matter. That is not Pooh size. (sorry - just there is a tv program about a 50 stone man on TV this weekend) No flames just MHO. PS I envy people who dont constantly watch their weight, (as long as its not causing health concerns)to look good as I love food.

 

[MidgeD79]

I am an over-weight, WalMart shopping, divorced, chose to be a single mom, owner of a Habitat for Humanity home, don't always put my shopping cart away, WIC recipient, not the best of spelling type of person. What would you call me? A proud American

 

[yearbook50]

I'm 5'5", 215 pounds, size 16.
My low weight is 145 pounds. size 6. I was extremely unhappy at the size 6 because I had to work-out 2 - 3 hours a day to maintain that, which is just as unhealthy as eating bad food in my eyes.

I don't eat bad foods generally. Usually only when theres not much else of an option. I eat salads and subs. I have a sherbert rather than icecream. I bake my foods. The least healthy thing I've had in the past week is a serving of cheese-its. I exercise roughly 20 minutes a day, which is all I can do sometimes seeing as I work full time and am a full time engineering student. My body seems to like where its at. I wouldn't mind losing 30 pounds or so but if it doesn't happen oh well. I'm not going to be unhealthy and obsessive as I was in high school.

So yes, I'm Pooh Sized. This is a Disney board. Who else would be more suiting on this board?

 

[SandraVB79]

Unlike taxing cigarettes to pay for the healthcare of those with smoking related illnesses, we can't tax food to pay for obesity related illnesses.

Here, they talked about taxing the food-that-makes-you-fatter-than-normal-food, i.e. junk and fast food. That tax money would then go to pay the medical bills from people who have complications because of their weight, and it would also bring the cost of fast/ junk food up a lot, which will *maybe* help people in making better choices.

Over here, fast food is already rather expensive. For the price of a menu at McD, you can go to a simple, "normal" restaurant and eat something that is less unhealthy. In the US however, fast/ junk food is cheaper than healthy food. Hmm, maybe they should even turn it the other way around in the US: government who subsidies (is that a word? and do you know what I mean with it? I just English-i-fied a Dutch word, haha!) healthy food. You know, fresh veggies would then be cheaper than fast food, and people would choose those?



I am in a lunch meeting, and there is ONE sandwich left... oh, I would like to eat it. How long do y'all think I can refrain from eating it? I hope one of the men in the meeting grabs it before I do

 

[auntpolly]

I don't know why some people want to start fights on the happiest board in the world

And what board would that be?