Pleasure Island out, shopping in

[Rora]

When I first read the title of this thread, I thought immediately "PI is something I really wouldn't miss". I never knew the story behind it and now my feelings have changed. While I've always enjoyed PI, I'd rather spend my $$ on Disney merchandise or maybe an extra day at a park (if you include admission to the clubs, plus your drinks, random stuff you might happen to buy while intoxicated, etc etc=almost a one day pass for a park). Perhaps PI could reinvent itself and bring back the story. We'll see what happens!

 

[MJMcBride]

http://www.mouseextra.com/2008/02/1...t-may-become-of-pleasure-island/#comment-2317

Here's a new rumor going around on this topic

 

[Rora]

http://www.mouseextra.com/2008/02/1...t-may-become-of-pleasure-island/#comment-2317

Here's a new rumor going around on this topic

Hm.. what kind of unique shopping, entertainment and resturants will go in it's place?

 

[MJMcBride]

Hm.. what kind of unique shopping, entertainment and resturants will go in it's place?

hopefully, nice places to eat and drink without a big cover charge

 

[OKW Mom]

It seemed like it took awhile to park, get in line, pay to enter and then another line for a restaurant.(Rose O'Grady's?). We were on a budget honeymoon and were surprised by the meal costs-I think we ordered appetizers and dessert.
I do not remember that street being that fascinating and we never went back.

We did enjoy PI in 94' with 3 other adult couples. We liked the comedy club even though the drinks seemed high. Enjoyed the different clubs until the one of the couples started their picking at each other.

I will never forget seeing Sheryl Crowe and shooting pictures with my 210 zoom in the beach club venue. VH1 was doing "fairway to heaven" and Bill Murray was seen in the crowd that night.

Between seeing Garth Brooks across the dinner table at Portobello Yacht club and Vince Gill in the hallway it was a night we'll never reproduce. Once you have 1 night like that - how can you top it?

Walked the area in September 07' and really did not see a reason to come back and pay for the "privilege" of buying drinks.

Resources are finite, do any of us know the direction Orlando will face in the next 3 years?

 

[ChrisFL]

It seemed like it took awhile to park, get in line, pay to enter and then another line for a restaurant.(Rose O'Grady's?). We were on a budget honeymoon and were surprised by the meal costs-I think we ordered appetizers and dessert.
I do not remember that street being that fascinating and we never went back.

We did enjoy PI in 94' with 3 other adult couples. We liked the comedy club even though the drinks seemed high. Enjoyed the different clubs until the one of the couples started their picking at each other.

I will never forget seeing Sheryl Crowe and shooting pictures with my 210 zoom in the beach club venue. VH1 was doing "fairway to heaven" and Bill Murray was seen in the crowd that night.

Between seeing Garth Brooks across the dinner table at Portobello Yacht club and Vince Gill in the hallway it was a night we'll never reproduce. Once you have 1 night like that - how can you top it?

Walked the area in September 07' and really did not see a reason to come back and pay for the "privilege" of buying drinks.

Resources are finite, do any of us know the direction Orlando will face in the next 3 years?

FYI, Cheyenne Saloon at Church St. Station just reopened to its former 1982 glory according to the Orlando Sentinel

 

[DizzyErin]

Ok sorry if am posting this in the wrong place .. but really need an answer to my question and can't find it

I am meeting with friend's at Raglan Road for dinner and am wondering do i need a ticket to get into PI .. it's not included in my main Disney ticket and i know you can pay extra for that option, but is that for PI itself or just the clubs????? HELP
TIA

 

[wendyinoc]

Rumor heard last night at PI was that the site of Rock'n'Roll Beach club was going to possibly be the future site of a Lucky Strike Bowling alley. Lucky Strike is a combination bowling alley, lounge, restaurant and art gallery, per their website: http://www.bowlluckystrike.com/

Tampa's Channelside entertainment area has a similar bowling operation but it's called Splitsville, not Lucky Strike. I could see locals doing an outing to one of these luxury bowling alleys but would tourists really want to go bowling on their holiday?

I want to stress this was just a rumor like all the others. We'll see.

BobK/Orlando

We have Lucky Strike near our house. It's more of a bar/restaurant then bowling alley. I think it has like maybe 8 lanes at the most and its $40 per hour to play. You go there to drink It has a very cool look.

 

[doconeill]

Ok sorry if am posting this in the wrong place .. but really need an answer to my question and can't find it

I am meeting with friend's at Raglan Road for dinner and am wondering do i need a ticket to get into PI .. it's not included in my main Disney ticket and i know you can pay extra for that option, but is that for PI itself or just the clubs????? HELP
TIA

No, you do not need a ticket. There is no admission charge to PI itself any more. Only the clubs. Raglan Road has no admission charge.

 

[ConcKahuna]

Well I think a lot of PI traffic was locals and I know a lot of them are going to Citywalk now instead.

Myself, and many others I know local, HATE Citywalk (we call it something else, but I'd get points. Think "Poppywalk"). First is the parking garage. I dont like being a mile from my car. Then there is the fact that gangs are MUCH worse at CW than I have ever seen at PI. I've never seen a cop have to throw someone down to take a switchblade from them at PI, but I've seen it at CW.

As for the R&RBC closing, I wouldn't be suprised if it just moved to where Motion is. Ever since Wildhorse closed and became Motion, it was considered by most people who went to PI as the "Under 21 version of Mannequins." They often play similar music.

So here are some rumors I've heard.

BET's contract is nearly up, so BET soundstage may be leaving.
8-Traxx is moving and Mannequins is being expanded to include that club.

So here's what I see happening...
8-Traxx moves to where BET is. With the neon inside and out, and the layout, BET always had a very "Discoesque" feel to me. It wouldnt take much in the way of refurbishments to change it over.
R&RBC moves to Motion. That club had a tendancy to get very crowded.

 

[KINGBOBOFTHENORTH]

Successful bars/night clubs are huge moneymakers so I doubt that all the clubs will disappear. But while the current 8TRAX is adjacent to Mannequins, I can't see combining them would accomplish anything. It's easy enough right now to hop from one to the next. And the whole focus at Mannequins is on that revolving dance floor so having extra space in the direction of what is currently 8TRAX wouldn't gain them anything either.

The BET name is apparently going to disappear but I don't necessarily see that a hip-hop oriented venue would disappear. Hip Hop is a huge force in music worldwide right now and as long as it's profitable, why not continue to operate it but just with a new name? BTW, B.B. Kings recently opened at Pointe Orlando and it's going after that same market.

I don't hang out in Motion much but the times I've been there it's usually quite crowded. Of course crowded doesn't mean they're selling a lot of drinks. I think it's gotten better since they went back to 21 instead of 18. But the music I hear in there mostly duplicates BET, not Mannequins. Motion is officially a Top 40 club and let's face it; most of Top 40 is hip hop. .

This of course is all speculation. Only the Mouse knows and he's not telling............yet.

BobK/Orlando

 

[ConcKahuna]

True, but House of Blues is top 40 as well, and since they bring Disney so much money, Disney may be handing that audience off to them.

 

[MJMcBride]

I like the House of Blues alot

 

[Luv2Roam]

I would agree about CityWalk, ConcKahuna.
The best thing about CW is walking through.
However it intentionally hits on a different crowd than Disney. And not one I feel comfortable in.
How about the shooting in the garage that was probably just over a year ago? Not to say it can't happen anywhere, as daily news in the U.S proves that. But even years time ago DH made a comment there is no way he would go to the theatre in CW.
CW just does not give me a comfortable warm fuzzy feeling in general.

 

[ChrisFL]

I would agree about CityWalk, ConcKahuna.
The best thing about CW is walking through.
However it intentionally hits on a different crowd than Disney. And not one I feel comfortable in.
How about the shooting in the garage that was probably just over a year ago? Not to say it can't happen anywhere, as daily news in the U.S proves that. But even years time ago DH made a comment there is no way he would go to the theatre in CW.
CW just does not give me a comfortable warm fuzzy feeling in general.

have you heard about all of the crime and disruptions that went on in the past year at DtD? There have been a lot more incidents there than at CW and I feel much safer at CW actually

 

[DC7800]

Hm.. what kind of unique shopping, entertainment and resturants will go in it's place?

Whatever entity is willing to pay whatever (probably outrageous) prices Disney wants to set up shop there. I'm quite certain the 'unique' criteria is secondary.

 

[KINGBOBOFTHENORTH]

Interestingly, one of the bands that used to play regularly in Rock'n'Roll Beach Club played sets this weekend on the stage at Motion. The DJ played between sets. Hmmm....maybe Motion will become the new RRBC but without the beach shack atmosphere.

And OMG....they had a free live band playing last night on the stage between the parking lot and Mannequins. Shoppers just passing by could actually listen and watch a live band without paying anything. What in the world is Disney coming to.......giving away something for free! Stop that nonsense right away.

BobK/Orlando