Please Look at This Picture - Has Anyone Seen This Missing Baby? UPDATES THROUGHOUT

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Oh my... words fail me. Such a sad, sad situation all around.
I'd like to pray, but I don't even know what to ask for.

And I'm surprised the networks didn't have this on the news this morning - or maybe I just missed it?

agnes!
 
I find it absolutely ridiculous that everyone is so quick to jump on George and say he had a part of this. Beyond devastated wouldn't even describe how I would feel if I was in his shoes knowing my own flesh and blood killed my grandaughter. I would question my will to live on also if I've been through what this family has been through.

What is ridiculous is this case. Nothing should be overlooked or not picked apart. And since I am not LE, I can be as ridiculous as I want. :thumbsup2

No doubt George AND Cindy are devastated,but everything in this case is off base, and every angle should be investigated.
 
I too think George knows a lot more than he is saying, I have been following this case on websleuths, which has much more accurate info than here and much more. I think the whole family knows more than they are telling. All of them have been caught in lies so far, so I really don't believe anything out of thier mouths.
 
I've been living with this story pretty much 24/7 since Caylee was taken. (which is why I don't post here much) It's been non-stop coverage down here-and yes, we speculate on just about everything at this point.

Personally, I don't think Casey cared enough about Caylee to place her body in a blanket or put that sticker on her mouth. I think Casey would have just dumped the body and been on her merry way. As a PP said-the placement of the body clearly showed care and concern-which doesn't seem likely from Casey given what we've seen and heard of her.

I think George could have tried to protect his daughter. Look at it this way-he finds Caylee, he's already lost her. He knows Casey did it, and she's still his daughter. I think it's quite possible that he would, as a former cop and a loving parent and grandparent, place the body where someone else would find it to try and protect what family he has left.


Which would make sense. Didn't the cadaver dogs hit on something in the backyard? There is just so much going on in this case, and much of it will probably never be found out. :sad1:
 

Which would make sense. Didn't the cadaver dogs hit on something in the backyard? There is just so much going on in this case, and much of it will probably never be found out. :sad1:

Yes, the dogs did react to something in the backyard but nothing was found there.

I feel terrible for George, don't get me wrong-but if he knew that baby was already dead and let everyone go on with the search for a live child-I've got a big problem with that.
 
I think *if* George or Cindy had something to do with the death or the cover up, they would not have called 911 to report that the car smelled like death. I think they do know information that they aren't telling, but I believe in my heart it was after-the-fact. I recall George's testimony to the grand jury, and how he smelled the smell and was praying for Caylee not to be in that trunk. I just don't think their actions at that point were the actions a guilty person would take.
 
I think *if* George or Cindy had something to do with the death or the cover up, they would not have called 911 to report that the car smelled like death. I think they do know information that they aren't telling, but I believe in my heart it was after-the-fact. I recall George's testimony to the grand jury, and how he smelled the smell and was praying for Caylee not to be in there. I just don't think their actions at that point were the actions a guilty person would take.

I don't think either George or Cindy had any part in killing that baby-but I'm not convinced that either one or both of them didn't try to protect Casey after they knew the baby was dead.

I can't imagine how a parent would react, finding out that their child was a psychopathic killer-and that she killed their beloved grandchild!! Do you let her hang or try and protect her because she's still your child? It's an impossible choice.
 
Perhaps Cindy was the one that found Caylee and tried to cover it up. I'm just saying b/c George is an ex-cop wouldn't he know that if Caylee was found with all the things she was found with it would point straight to Casey? But George knew what Cindy did? nothing surprises me. :sad2:
 
I don't think either George or Cindy had any part in killing that baby-but I'm not convinced that either one or both of them didn't try to protect Casey after they knew the baby was dead.

I can't imagine how a parent would react, finding out that their child was a psychopathic killer-and that she killed their beloved grandchild!! Do you let her hang or try and protect her because she's still your child? It's an impossible choice.

I agree, but I think if they did that, the last thing they would do is tell the cops that the car smelled like death. They may call in a 911 saying the child is missing, but they practically gave up Casey from the start. JMO, but it doesn't sound to me like they did any sort of cover up involving poor Caylee's body. Now, misleading the detectives on the other hand, we all know that Cindy is guilty of that.
 
The part I want to know is...what did the half written note say?!? Hope there was something useful in it and hope George gets the help he needs. He lost his entire life when you think about it, and he was the only one who was forthcoming to the police. I feel sorry for him.
I wonder. That poor man.
I don't think either George or Cindy had any part in killing that baby-but I'm not convinced that either one or both of them didn't try to protect Casey after they knew the baby was dead.

I can't imagine how a parent would react, finding out that their child was a psychopathic killer-and that she killed their beloved grandchild!! Do you let her hang or try and protect her because she's still your child? It's an impossible choice.
I can't even begin to imagine the pain and horror of this situation for parents/grandparents.
 
Overnight George has been missing and an all out man hunt has been on to find him. Evidently George sent suicidal text messages to his family while he was missing and the police were called. He was found around 3am in a hotel in Daytona Beach area with half written sucide notes (according to Webslueths). GPS was used to find him because George has onstar in his vehicle. He is now under observation for 72 hours. I feel so bad for George. This is a terrible situation for his family. Good Lord, what next!


How very sad.
 
Overnight George has been missing and an all out man hunt has been on to find him. Evidently George sent suicidal text messages to his family while he was missing and the police were called. He was found around 3am in a hotel in Daytona Beach area with half written sucide notes (according to Webslueths). GPS was used to find him because George has onstar in his vehicle. He is now under observation for 72 hours. I feel so bad for George. This is a terrible situation for his family. Good Lord, what next!

Wow, that poor family. I wonder how Casey will turn this one around to make herself the victim on this :sad2:
I know its all speculation, and no matter what I'm sure he and the whole family are totally devastated by this whole thing, but somehow, I think he knows/helped in some way because of this. I really really really really hope I'm wrong, but I just don't know at this point - with this family, anything is possible.
 
You know I can't even image the grief this family is going through. Losing a child is hard enough, without knowing your own daughter caused it. I believe that George and Cindy DIDN"T have anything to do with killing Caylee or moving her body. There is no way Cindy would have called the police if they knew anything about it.

What they found out alone the way that a different story I see Cindy protecting Caylee more then George. George was the one who testifed aganist Caylee at the Grand Jury trial
 
I find it absolutely ridiculous that everyone is so quick to jump on George and say he had a part of this. Beyond devastated wouldn't even describe how I would feel if I was in his shoes knowing my own flesh and blood killed my grandaughter. I would question my will to live on also if I've been through what this family has been through.


I agree with you 100%. I feel so bad for Cindy and George. You have to think - that little girl was thier life - and even if they know if their hear Casey killed Caylee - how hard must that be for them to deal with that and their beloved granddaughter being murdered. I feel nothing for Casy, because I believe she killed her baby and dumped her in the woods. I think George and Cindy have no part in it whatsoever. I mean - did you hear the anguish in Cindy's voice on those 911 calls?
 
I have frequently said to DH about many cases, "Forget looking at tiny little details to see if there is one magic ta-da clue that makes it all click, like on TV shows. Most of the time, you can just look at the big picture and use common sense and the answer will be staring you in the face." That's how it is here. Aside from the gigantic red flag of not reporting her child missing for a month while she partied her nights away, seemingly carefree, the biggest "in your face" clue, IMHO, is the whole issue of the nanny.

1. Unemployed people do not NEED a nanny. They have no job to go to. She lied about having a job for 2 years, but since there was no job, there was no need for a nanny of any sort.

2. People who are leeching off others for money, stealing friends' checkbooks, stealing cans of gas from their parents because they can't afford to buy gas, etc., have no MONEY to pay a nanny for a week, let alone two years. I know women who don't work, yet have nannies, but their husbands many a LOT Of money. There is ample evidence that Casey scraped by any way she could, on a constant basis. Therefore, there was no money for a nanny.....the nanny an unemployed person did not even need.

3. Aside from the strange fact that NO ONE ever met, talked to, or saw a photo of this supposed nanny, there is the sobering reaction of little Caylee herself when asked about the nanny. George told police that he had, from time to time, asked Caylee about her day with Zanny.....what they'd done.....had she had fun, etc. She always gave him a blank look and was nonresponsive. She had no answer, In other words, she had NOTHING to tell him EVER. From the videos and interviews with friends and relatives, anyone can see Caylee was a bright and extremely verbal child who was what I call "a talker." (Kind of like my DD) The sort that would yak on about her day, what she saw, what she'd done or learned, etc. The kind you love to listen to because they are so animated. In fact, George told police that when he asked Caylee about seeing ANYONE else, such as Casey's friends, she jabbered about them immediately. Anyone with a lick of sense could see the child knew no one named Zanny. Zanny did not exist...There was no nanny.

The whole "nanny" issue is a huge, glaring red flag in this case. Not the fact that no one can find her, so much as the fact that Casey wouldn't have needed a nanny, couldn't have paid a nanny, and chatty little Caylee clearly didn't know this "nanny." Casey's bad guy is obviously pure fiction.

George is not a stupid man and on top of that, he's been a policeman. On some level, he KNOWS Casey killed Caylee. As I said to DH last night, "You have to wonder if Casey was created by the family dynamics or was she just born a sociopath." Because scarily enough, some people appear to be. What must George be going through (whether he ever helped her cover up or not) to know his daughter killed his granddaughter and then have to wonder what part, if any, he played in creating such a monster? The guilt must be overwhelming, whether it's deserved or not. Because parenting mistakes or not, the guilt lays squarely on Casey's shoulder's, not George and Cindy's.

I haven't listened to the news, so I don't know about any suicide attempt. But I don't doubt it, if he finally reached the point when he could no longer deny the obvious and had to face the truth. Losing a granddaughter to murder is enough to send you over the edge, but to know your child/her own mother was the killer may be too much to endure.
 
I agree with you 100%. I feel so bad for Cindy and George. You have to think - that little girl was thier life - and even if they know if their hear Casey killed Caylee - how hard must that be for them to deal with that and their beloved granddaughter being murdered. I feel nothing for Casy, because I believe she killed her baby and dumped her in the woods. I think George and Cindy have no part in it whatsoever. I mean - did you hear the anguish in Cindy's voice on those 911 calls?

And don't forget George's grand jury testimony. You could hear his heart breaking when he was describing the smell coming from the car, and how he didn't want to open the trunk. That says to me, right there, that he thought Casey harmed Caylee. I believe Cindy has done wrong in misleading the detectives (such as giving them the wrong hairbrush), but I think she felt she was doing the right thing at the time. I'm not justifying it by any means, but I truly believe she felt her daughter was wrongly accused at that point. I gotta think, though, that they both know the truth now and are having to come to grips with that.

ETA: I do think that if they mislead detectives intentionally, they should be held accountable for that.
 
a post on WS

Originally Posted by Friday
This has been a long, awful night but with a better ending than we dared hope for. All I can tell you right now is that George notified two people he knew truly cared for him that he was going to take his own life, and why. Cindy was not one of the two.

Tim is in Houston, but called me earlier tonight heartbroken, planning to leave for Florida to help search for George. He asks all of you for prayers for George. I have no idea yet if George is still in danger of dying.

Apologize for all the bolding; I'm trying to make my answers stand out for you.
 
a post on WS

Originally Posted by Friday
This has been a long, awful night but with a better ending than we dared hope for. All I can tell you right now is that George notified two people he knew truly cared for him that he was going to take his own life, and why. Cindy was not one of the two.

Tim is in Houston, but called me earlier tonight heartbroken, planning to leave for Florida to help search for George. He asks all of you for prayers for George. I have no idea yet if George is still in danger of dying.

Apologize for all the bolding; I'm trying to make my answers stand out for you.


WOW he didn't call Cindy? His Wife? :scratchin :scratchin

I wonder who he called?
 
I do feel for him, Casey has ruined so many lives. The notes were half written and sucicidal and about him wanting to be with Caylee...:(
 
I believe Cindy has done wrong in misleading the detectives (such as giving them the wrong hairbrush), but I think she felt she was doing the right thing at the time. I'm not justifying it by any means, but I truly believe she felt her daughter was wrongly accused at that point.
If she truly believed Casey was being wrongly accused, why try to alter evidence?

lillygator, is "WS" websleuths? (I don't follow this thread daily, but try to check in when I can.) And who is the person that posted that? Is there someone with personal knowledge posting on a discussion board?? Who is "Friday" and who is "Tim"? TIA
 
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