Please keep the flames to just a spark

[Lori2816]

I'm sure I'll be flamed for this but enough is enough!! Yet again President Bush is in the area speaking. If I have to hear the same speech over and over again I think I'll spit!! "He can run but he can't hide" bit is nausiating! This is at least the 15th time he's been here. He's not been alone! Kerry is here all the time too. I'm from NE Penna.. These two should be told that there are other states out there. I'm sure there are many people on this board who would love to have had the candidates speak in their areas. Can't wait to cast a vote, cross my fingers and be done with it. Sorry for the negative vent! Living in "swing state hell"

 

[LoraJ]

Can you send Kerry over here? I would love to see him.

 

[SnowAngel]

Nah.. you can have them. I don't want them to speak hear.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

President Bush is visiting Florida again tomorrow, which I am excited about because he is coming HERE!!!!! He has three other stops in the state. He was just in the area last Saturday as well.

On the other side, Kerry was in Florida earlier this week, and Edwards will be around tomorrow. Actually the two of them have been around the state a lot the last couple of weeks.

I LIKE being in a swing state!

 

[leahannpen]

They are here all the time too. Today we have John Kerry and Mrs. Bush, so you aren't alone.


edited twice to spell "they are" or "they're" correct... i'm having one of those days!

 

[Lori2816]

Leahannpen, we are just the opposite. Bush is here right now, Mrs. Edwards will be speaking later this afternoon! I'ts just that it's the same speech over and over and over. I'm not just talking about the state of PA, I'm talking the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre area.

 

[disney4us2002]

You mean you're tired of "You can run but you can't hide"?

Let's not forget these:

"I have a plan"
"Wrong war, wrong place, wrong time"
"I have a plan"
"This president took his eye off the ball"
"I have a plan"



Oh, did I mention, "I have a plan"?

BTW, you could just turn off the tv ya know?

 

[grinningghost]

If they did away with the electoral college, swing states would be history and everyone's vote would count.

Then perhaps the candidates would spread their joyful messages more evenly.

 

[Toby'sFriend]

we don't even get the campaign commercials here.

 

[ThAnswr]

Originally posted by Lori2816
I'm sure I'll be flamed for this but enough is enough!! Yet again President Bush is in the area speaking. If I have to hear the same speech over and over again I think I'll spit!! "He can run but he can't hide" bit is nausiating!

Someone ought to remind Bush he used that line "He can run but he can't hide" about Osama Bin Laden.

 

[txSleepingBeauty]

meanwhile, those of us in states that are already "decided" only to get to see Bush when he's on one of his 27 vacations a year in Crawford and are completely ignored by the Democrats!! Come on we're not all Bush lovers in Texas!!! come visit us ocasionally!!

 

[cheyita]

Ya know - I'm really in the state of confusion over here. I guess I don't know enough about politics to understand that, with the exception of our current governor, Illinois has had Republican governors for the past - oh - like 20 years. So why is it always a Dem state when it comes to presidential elections? Or why isn't it at least close? I'd have enjoyed seeing the candidates over here.

 

[leahannpen]

Originally posted by grinningghost
If they did away with the electoral college, swing states would be history and everyone's vote would count.

I hate to sound dumb, but can someone, in generic terms, explain this whole "electoral college, swing state" thing to me? I just don't understand it, never having it explained before. And if I'm hijacking this thread, I'm sorry. I just really want to understand.


p.s. g.g. checked your pm's lately?


edited to fix spelling AGAIN. just not my day.

 

[Pembo]

Another swing vote state here. I am SO tired of all the political ads. Watching daytime TV there is hardly an ad for anything else. At this point, I don't care who wins! If only we could have a campaign WITHOUT all the mudslinging!

 

[MNSusan]

Minnesota is also a swing state and this week we've had Pres Bush, Sen Kerry, Sen Edwards and VP Cheney. I've heard both Pres Bush and Sen Kerry speak, and would never have gotten that opportunity otherwise.

That said, I'm sick sick sick to death of the television ads and rhetoric!

 

[binny]

odd..... they havent been in Idaho at all hmmmmmmmmmm



LOL


We dont even get political commercials here!


Which actually is kind of odd considering Kerry has a home here ( as do the Kennedys and the Shrivers and ...and...and...)

Oh wait I take it back Kerry was here last winter, skiing

 

[tonyswife]

Originally posted by grinningghost
If they did away with the electoral college, swing states would be history and everyone's vote would count.

Then perhaps the candidates would spread their joyful messages more evenly.

No they wouldn't, they would spend all their time in the North East and California and screw the rest of the country.

 

[dmadman43]

Originally posted by disney4us2002
You mean you're tired of "You can run but you can't hide"?

Let's not forget these:

"I have a plan"
"Wrong war, wrong place, wrong time"
"I have a plan"
"This president took his eye off the ball"
"I have a plan"



Oh, did I mention, "I have a plan"?

BTW, you could just turn off the tv ya know?

You forgot "I fought for this country" "I served in Vietnam"

 

[dmadman43]

Originally posted by grinningghost
If they did away with the electoral college, swing states would be history and everyone's vote would count.

Then perhaps the candidates would spread their joyful messages more evenly.

Everyone's vote still counts. You vote for Electorates. If they amended the Constitution to do away with the Electoral college then the President would be elected by major metropolitan areas.

 

[Patch'sD]

Each State is allocated a number of Electors equal to the number of its U.S. Senators (always 2) plus the number of its U.S. Representatives (which may change each decade according to the size of each State's population as determined in the Census).
The political parties (or independent candidates) in each State submit to the State's chief election official a list of individuals pledged to their candidate for president and equal in number to the State's electoral vote. Usually, the major political parties select these individuals either in their State party conventions or through appointment by their State party leaders while third parties and independent candidates merely designate theirs.
Members of Congress and employees of the federal government are prohibited from serving as an Elector in order to maintain the balance between the legislative and executive branches of the federal government.
After their caucuses and primaries, the major parties nominate their candidates for president and vice president in their national conventions
traditionally held in the summer preceding the election. (Third parties and independent candidates follow different procedures according to the individual State laws). The names of the duly nominated candidates are then officially submitted to each State's chief election official so that they might appear on the general election ballot.

On the Tuesday following the first Monday of November in years divisible by four, the people in each State cast their ballots for the party slate of Electors representing their choice for president and vice president (although as a matter of practice, general election ballots normally say "Electors for" each set of candidates rather than list the individual Electors on each slate).
Whichever party slate wins the most popular votes in the State becomes that State's Electors-so that, in effect, whichever presidential ticket gets the most popular votes in a State wins all the Electors of that State. [The two exceptions to this are Maine and Nebraska where two Electors are chosen by statewide popular vote and the remainder by the popular vote within each Congressional district].
On the Monday following the second Wednesday of December (as established in federal law) each State's Electors meet in their respective State capitals and cast their electoral votes-one for president and one for vice president.
In order to prevent Electors from voting only for "favorite sons" of their home State, at least one of their votes must be for a person from outside their State (though this is seldom a problem since the parties have consistently nominated presidential and vice presidential candidates from different States).
The electoral votes are then sealed and transmitted from each State to the President of the Senate who, on the following January 6, opens and reads them before both houses of the Congress.
The candidate for president with the most electoral votes, provided that it is an absolute majority (one over half of the total), is declared president. Similarly, the vice presidential candidate with the absolute majority of electoral votes is declared vice president.
In the event no one obtains an absolute majority of electoral votes for president, the U.S. House of Representatives (as the chamber closest to the people) selects the president from among the top three contenders with each State casting only one vote and an absolute majority of the States being required to elect. Similarly, if no one obtains an absolute majority for vice president, then the U.S. Senate makes the selection from among the top two contenders for that office.
At noon on January 20, the duly elected president and vice president are sworn into office.