Please help...my bride and I are struggling with this.

d'Isigny

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Folks...I sure can use some prayer – or – well wishes. My bride and I are blessed with three healthy dd’s. Our issue/concern is not something in our direct family – again, we are blessed.

Here goes – my oldest has a great friend...bright (inducted in National Honors Society with my oldest just last week), funny and an all around good kid. I’m impressed with how ‘together’ both of these girls are. Well...my dd’s friend is in a difficult home situation. Her biological mom and dad are separated and (in kind words) not the best people for/to themselves...let alone to be raising a 16 y/o. This girl is living with her grandmom – temporarily. The problem is, grandmom lives in a retirement community and can’t keep her much longer.

We’ve been asked to have her move in with us for the next two weeks. This trial time will be so options can be reviewed for a permanent living situation. For a short time – we’re ok to lend a hand. My concern is – what if it’s not just for two weeks? Now, please don’t flame me. I want to offer assistance. My additional concerns are; a house that is struggling now to hold a family of five, I am the sole income working three jobs in a difficult economy (a permanent full time, a permanent part time each Sunday morning and another that is 4-6 evenings a month that will increase to over 10 during the holiday months), what baggage will this girl bring with her and how will her family members act during a short or extended time? This is just a short list of concerns – am sure others can jump in and share what I’m not even thinking of.

Any one with similar experience or sharing some; wisdom, insight or thoughts would be welcome to post. Please help...my bride and I are struggling with this.
 
Can/will grandma or the parents provide child support? Can you make this a foster situation and collect money from the state? How do your children and wife feel about it? What would sleeping arrangements be? Who would be providing health care?dental care? clothing?

What would happen to her if you didn't make this sacrifice?

How will you handle it when she turns 18...ask her to move out or help her out like your own children?

These are some of the questions I'd be asking before making this decision.
 
What real differnce will two weeks make?
Surely some relative is available-or they are hoping that once she is in your home, she'll stay there?


No matter how great a friend is-having her move in will change your family dynamics. Good luck
 
my daughters cheer coach did this with one of her sons good friends. He lived with them for 2 years and then was able to be stabilized with his mother. It wasn't easy, but there was love. His parents did send money to cover his expenses, but they did spend their own money on him also. They did draw up a contract so that she could get him medical care and not be held liable for the bills. He calls her his other mom and will tell you she saved his life.

But, its not for everyone. I am not sure I could deal with the intrusion into my life, an additional teenager (one with problems). The cost, the time, the aggravation... Only you know what is truly in your heart. Ask yourself how you will feel a week or two after the decision is made. Do you think you would feel okay if you said no (not good because its a lousy situation for this poor girl), would you feel okay if you said yes.
 

I will pray for your guidance. I can't really help much other than that. I have never been in that situation, but I know if I were- I would let her stay with us too. You can always find a way to help someone out, you just have to figure it out as you go. I hope her relatives figure out that their kid should be their number one priority and not a secondary option. I have had that problem with my step-daughter (her mom isn't the best shall we say....) but I make the best of it and treat her as my own- and she is mine, even more than her mother's. Maybe it will work out and her parents will realize what is going on finally.... but as I said- I will pray for you guys. :hug:
 
I will pray for your guidance. I can't really help much other than that. I have never been in that situation, but I know if I were- I would let her stay with us too. You can always find a way to help someone out, you just have to figure it out as you go. I hope her relatives figure out that their kid should be their number one priority and not a secondary option. I have had that problem with my step-daughter (her mom isn't the best shall we say....) but I make the best of it and treat her as my own- and she is mine, even more than her mother's. Maybe it will work out and her parents will realize what is going on finally.... but as I said- I will pray for you guys. :hug:

agreed! Hope that you get the answer you are seeking.:hug:
 
For me, it wouldn't necessarily be the girl herself that would be the problem. It's *her parents* that you will have to deal with along the way and that could cause undue stress on your family.

Hope you come to a decision that will be "right" for all concerned. :hug:
 
There's a lady on the boards that I talk to. She's been in your shoes a few time. Money isn't the greatest, but they make due and help out any one that needs it. She also has kids that are adults in their 20's to the youngest who is 10. So she's been there a few times.

Her screen name is Parker'sMomma, I don't see her on all that often, but if you send a PM she should receive it in her email to respond.

If this child really would prefer to live with you, you can set higher standards for her, since she's joining the family. Like holding down a job to cover some of her wants, that you might provide for your children. Heck the two girls might get a job together, and you'll have a little less burden on your oldest daughter who could start paying for her own wants. Just the fact that this could make a positive impact on her life and future decisions could outweigh the struggles for the next couple of years. She's at a vulnerable age, and some one needs to be there to direct her on the right path. While her grandmother is a good person, it's possible she can't provide everything for the girl due to age or living arrangements.
 
Why does she have to live with her Grandma because her parents are divorcing?

Will she go into foster care if you do not take her in?

Where are her parents? Have you talked with them? Have you talked with the Grandma and got her side of the story?
 
In April, 2009 I took in twin 18 year old girls (my daughter's friends). At the time they were finishing their junior year in high school. Their so-called parents moved to NC (we live in NH). This move was not necessitated by a job transfer or anything, parents just "wanted a change." Since they were 18 parents left them behind.

I kept both girls until July 2010, when one of them moved to NC and is living with the parents and going to school down there (its much less expensive there than where I live). I still have one living with me - she's also going to school.

I have received no financial support from anyone. While the twins were living here they both received food stamps, but that was it.

Luckily we have a big enough house that they have their own room. They also have their own car. Both girls worked and paid their own expenses (cell phones, gas, etc.).

While it hasn't been all sunshine and roses all the time, I don't regret giving them a helping hand.

If you're housing situation doesn't allow this child to have her own room and would involve sharing with one of your children, I would hesitate. I think the biggest reason we were able to make it work was because all the children have their own space.
 
I also wanted to add that if you decide to take this girl in, given that she's underage, you should get some type of temporary guardianship papers. With those you should be able to receive some services from your community. I didn't have to deal with it as the twins were 18, but we were able to get them on free school lunch and breakfast, free bus tickets, the fees for any field trips, SATs, college applications, etc. were waived. We were also able to get them on foodstamps. Had they been underage we would have been eligible for help through our city's human services department.

If you take her in, plan on long term rather than short term. I know they say 2 weeks right now, but it doesn't sound like her situation is going to improve in 2 weeks. I knew going into our situation that it would be long term and that the parents were not going to offer any financial assistance (despite promises).
 
I guess if one of our kids' friends were in that situation I wouldn't hesitate to have them move in. It may mean that your kids/your wife/the friend would have to get some kind of a part time job to help out but I would see how it goes. They would certainly be expected to help around the house just like our own kids, the would be expected to follow the same rules our kids do, in other words, they would be treated like a member of the family.
 
I have been there, done that. My older DS' best friend moved in with us during the last two years of high school;he moved out not long ago then had to move back in when he lost his job;he is currently enrolled in college (he is 20).
My take on this:you are right to be concerned over whether this will be for more than 2 weeks. In the situation you are describing, I just about bet my bottom dollar it will be..if you allow it.Now here are the questions to ask yourself:

1. Do we want to do this..for two weeks or for a much longer time frame/
2. How will this affect our family dynamics?remember...even though you care about this chid, the ones you already have need to come first.
3. Can we afford this? if she stays longer, you may be able to get some assistance for her but if the parents are not stable..well, it may not happen. They may be unwilling to sign anything but are more than willing to let you take over the burden of the child.

I must say looking back, I have absolutely no regrets;I love DS' friend as if he were my own;we have treated him no differently than we have our own two , ever and that comes to Christmas, birthdays, household chores and discipline. He is a part of our family.I am glad that we have been such a stable influence in someones life when they needed it;it hasn't always been easy, my DH was laid off for 2 years and it was rough at times but we made it. Good luck with whatever you decide. Your heart will help you make the right choice.
 
Don't agree to do this for two weeks unless you are willing and able to do it for two or more years. Because there's a pretty good chance that once they get her out of Grandma's house, they're not coming back for her. Grandma can't have her permanently, and if either parent was interested in having her, there wouldn't be an issue.
 
I agree, I would take her for the two weeks unless you're prepared to have her permanently.

That said, though...

Two years in a child's life is huge. Two years from 16-18 can make all the difference in whether she falters or becomes an amazing young woman.

Two years for YOU is relatively small potatoes.

I would encourage you and your wife to think about this:

If she is shuffled from foster home to foster home, if she is mistreated/abused, if she misses or gets behind in school, drops out or fails out, if she turns to drugs or alcohol to handle depression because she feels unloved...how might YOU feel in two years knowing that? How might your dd (her friend) view you?

Will that information be harder than the time, love and commitment you'd have to put in for two years?

:grouphug:
 
If this child really would prefer to live with you, you can set higher standards for her, since she's joining the family. Like holding down a job to cover some of her wants


Isn't it ironic, dontcha think?
 
I have done this with 3 different, now grown men. Each one had a different situation but all came with baggage - alcoholic parent, drug dealing parent in jail, and just bad step situation.

I took one in at 18, one at 20 and one at 21, as well as my son who was 19. Yep 4 guys - 18, 19, 20 & 21.

It was hard, noisy and at times chaotic. But eveytime I though I can't do this I looked at my DS and the lesson I am teaching him. You may not change the whole world but you can change someone's whole world.

It was not all roses and I had to lay down the law a few times but unlike their parents, they respected me and knew I meant it. I was their stability. If I had them at 15, 16 or maybe they would have had a better time earlier. They learned to open up and that they could talk to people w/o everytime disolving into anger/hurt & abuse.

So the 18 - now 24 is getting married in 3 weeks, he has a great career as a chef.

The 19 - now 25, my DS, gradusted college and is now in the management program for Comcast. Married with a beautiful daughter and DW and new home.

the 20, now 26 - just graduated MIT - who knew!!!! His father was in & out of jail for drugs dealing and this kid could have gone that road very easliy.

The 21 - now 26 - Bday soon - is the last to move out - 2 weeks from now!!!!! YAHOO!!
He will leave as a Union & Licensed Journeyman Electrician.

So just know you may be her lifeline - if not, you may be able to help her find the right family to keep her on the right path.

Good Luck, I will keep you in my thoughts.
 
I would take her in without hesitation.

If the girl is speaking out there is one thing you can be sure of and that is the fact that whatever it is she has told you is probably only the tip of the iceberg. Kids from messed up homes don't like to talk about it, they prefer to pretend things are fine. IF a kid is speaking openly about imperfections then things are very, very bad and the child desperately wants help.
 
WOW!!! Thank you all for your, prayers/well wishes, insight, encouragement and suggestions. This is a difficult thing for me to share our feelings on this - via written communication. I am greatful for those posting and sharing personal experiences, as well as, short/long term challenges to consider.


Can/will grandma or the parents provide child support? Can you make this a foster situation and collect money from the state?
How do your children and wife feel about it?
What would sleeping arrangements be?
Who would be providing health care?dental care? clothing?
What would happen to her if you didn't make this sacrifice?
How will you handle it when she turns 18...ask her to move out or help her out like your own children?
These are some of the questions I'd be asking before making this decision.

- We have strong doubts the parents will offer financial assistance. Appears grand mom is on a fixed income so little if any support there. State assistance might be the only avenue...will look into this.

- We have two daughters in one bedroom (10 & 13 y/o) - would have two 16 y/o's in the other. It would be a tight fit - doable.

- My wife and I are open to this. We just don't have enough information - yet. Want to speak with the grand mom - father/mother (if they will) and her. After we gather more information and spend time in prayer - we will have a family meeting...getting input from our two younger daughters. I doubt they will have issues - they are very fond of this girl.

- Good question on health/dental coverage...will need to look through this.

They did draw up a contract so that she could get him medical care and not be held liable for the bills.
Ask yourself how you will feel a week or two after the decision is made.
Do you think you would feel okay if you said no (not good because its a lousy situation for this poor girl), would you feel okay if you said yes.
He calls her his other mom and will tell you she saved his life.

- The option of making the biological parents responsible for health/dental care might be a 'shot in the dark' - neither of them are currently employed - or from what I've heard, employable. She might need to be added to my insurance or be covered via state assistance (excuse me if I'm ignorant on this - my bride is making some phone calls today).

- Have been trying to imagine how the dynamics of our household would be - in the future...if we take her in - or - if she goes elsewhere (the elsewhere is very foggy). This is difficult. Guess...in my dreams - hopes and wishes...everything turns up PERFECT. Where in reality...this is not always the case.

- what I moved as your last line...teared me up a little (cough...football). My bride and I were extremely blessed to have great role models as parents. However, our generation were always outside - at friends - school events etc. Friends parents looked out for us...our parents looked out for our friends. It was not uncommon for x child to call y parent - mama 'B'. I called them...my 'rent a moms'. And with my 'rent a moms' - I truly feel like I am a better person - more rounded and grounded.


I will pray for your guidance.
I hope her relatives figure out that their kid should be their number one priority and not a secondary option.
... but as I said- I will pray for you guys. :hug:

- thank you...your prayers are certainly welcome

- I wish her relatives could provide for themselves...first. Then, we can discuss if they could guide one much younger.


For me, it wouldn't necessarily be the girl herself that would be the problem. It's *her parents* that you will have to deal with along the way and that could cause undue stress on your family.

Hope you come to a decision that will be "right" for all concerned. :hug:

- what words of insight. Thank you!!

In April, 2009 I took in twin 18 year old girls (my daughter's friends). At the time they were finishing their junior year in high school. Their so-called parents moved to NC (we live in NH). This move was not necessitated by a job transfer or anything, parents just "wanted a change." Since they were 18 parents left them behind.

I kept both girls until July 2010, when one of them moved to NC and is living with the parents and going to school down there (its much less expensive there than where I live). I still have one living with me - she's also going to school.

I have received no financial support from anyone. While the twins were living here they both received food stamps, but that was it.

Luckily we have a big enough house that they have their own room. They also have their own car. Both girls worked and paid their own expenses (cell phones, gas, etc.).

While it hasn't been all sunshine and roses all the time, I don't regret giving them a helping hand.

If you're housing situation doesn't allow this child to have her own room and would involve sharing with one of your children, I would hesitate. I think the biggest reason we were able to make it work was because all the children have their own space.

- glad to hear that you opened your home - your heart and offered support to what legally is an adult that could have ended up --- tragically. Thank you for sharing that it can be done.

- no...our house would require sharing of bedrooms. I hear your valuable insight.

I also wanted to add that if you decide to take this girl in, given that she's underage, you should get some type of temporary guardianship papers. With those you should be able to receive some services from your community. I didn't have to deal with it as the twins were 18, but we were able to get them on free school lunch and breakfast, free bus tickets, the fees for any field trips, SATs, college applications, etc. were waived. We were also able to get them on foodstamps. Had they been underage we would have been eligible for help through our city's human services department.

If you take her in, plan on long term rather than short term. I know they say 2 weeks right now, but it doesn't sound like her situation is going to improve in 2 weeks. I knew going into our situation that it would be long term and that the parents were not going to offer any financial assistance (despite promises).

- my bride is looking into this. Thank you again for passing your experience and suggestions for financial support.

- I agree with you. My gut tells me - this will require long term love and support.

I have been there, done that. My older DS' best friend moved in with us during the last two years of high school;he moved out not long ago then had to move back in when he lost his job;he is currently enrolled in college (he is 20).
My take on this:you are right to be concerned over whether this will be for more than 2 weeks. In the situation you are describing, I just about bet my bottom dollar it will be..if you allow it.Now here are the questions to ask yourself:

1. Do we want to do this..for two weeks or for a much longer time frame/
2. How will this affect our family dynamics?remember...even though you care about this chid, the ones you already have need to come first.
3. Can we afford this? if she stays longer, you may be able to get some assistance for her but if the parents are not stable..well, it may not happen. They may be unwilling to sign anything but are more than willing to let you take over the burden of the child.

I must say looking back, I have absolutely no regrets;I love DS' friend as if he were my own;we have treated him no differently than we have our own two , ever and that comes to Christmas, birthdays, household chores and discipline. He is a part of our family.I am glad that we have been such a stable influence in someones life when they needed it;it hasn't always been easy, my DH was laid off for 2 years and it was rough at times but we made it. Good luck with whatever you decide. Your heart will help you make the right choice.

- another report of success. Appreciate that you opened your home and your heart to another.

- 1. we feel led to offer support - so, yes.

- 2. this is a difficult question to answer. This has no other option but to change our family dynamics. My heart and head tell me it will be a challenge but can be an even bigger blessing.

- 3. financially it would be a stretch. But what change isn't - we adapt and have displayed the ability to sacrifice and make it work. Some assistance from either state or her family would help...but...we are reviewing our budget to see how we can adapt.

Appreciate you sharing your success and challenges.

Don't agree to do this for two weeks unless you are willing and able to do it for two or more years.

I agree, I would take her for the two weeks unless you're prepared to have her permanently.

That said, though...

Two years in a child's life is huge. Two years from 16-18 can make all the difference in whether she falters or becomes an amazing young woman.

Two years for YOU is relatively small potatoes.

I would encourage you and your wife to think about this:

If she is shuffled from foster home to foster home, if she is mistreated/abused, if she misses or gets behind in school, drops out or fails out, if she turns to drugs or alcohol to handle depression because she feels unloved...how might YOU feel in two years knowing that? How might your dd (her friend) view you?

Will that information be harder than the time, love and commitment you'd have to put in for two years? :grouphug:

- agreed...if we open our doors...chances are - we would invite someone into our family. This would be a life commitment and WILL change our family. My hear tells me for - the better.

- WOW!! You've put into words my fears the path this girl could walk without support and love. Some great words...sobering...humbling - scary.

I would take her in without hesitation.

If the girl is speaking out there is one thing you can be sure of and that is the fact that whatever it is she has told you is probably only the tip of the iceberg. Kids from messed up homes don't like to talk about it, they prefer to pretend things are fine. IF a kid is speaking openly about imperfections then things are very, very bad and the child desperately wants help.

- Again, WOW!! I need to stop wearing 'rose colored glasses' - this has been a real reality check. Some more - great insight. We've discussed that should we do this, we will want some counseling assistance. For her...and for us - then, all of US.
 
She will most likely be able to get state assistance for health/dental. You will most likely NOT be able to add her to your health/dental plan unless you get permanent guardianship. You have the option of getting an individual plan for her. In our state that runs about $100/month for a pretty good plan (3 office visits/year paid, co-pay for meds, etc.). There is probably something similar in your state.

Bunk beds or loft beds always make a room seem bigger and can usually be found on Craigslist for not a lot of money. Loft beds would be great in a teen's room :thumbsup2.
 


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