Please don't believe things that you hear

[TinkerbellMama]

I am making a huge deal about it because I am not the only one who got scammed by her. She got 3 of us on the disney/toddler baby exchange, a bunch of people on the my friend is having triplets and she has nothing thread, She emailed someone about starbucks coupons for her pregnant sister and those are in her ebay store now. she apparently also recently asked for mugs for her daughter's collection that are on her ebay store as well. She is using the dis board as her own personal free stash so she can sell them on ebay. She lied to many people and its called FRAUD, thats why I am making a huge deal about.

Then I suggest you contact the police. I still don't understand the calling the news part.
I am entitled to my opinion, and entitled to post it. That's all.

 

[Tigger&Belle]

I wanted to add that I totally agree what she is doing (again, I don't know the details) is VERY wrong, and I am glad you are warning others. I just don't understand how a few baby items warrants calling the news! Yes, it's horrible (if true), and you should definitely warn others. I have been burned by people I've tried to help in the past, as well. I never thought about calling the news or reporting them to eBay for selling things I gave them, that's all. I was just more careful after that. JMO.

I don't know that she could be reported to eBay for selling things received in an exchange (even if the sister doesn't exist). However, for selling things that she solicited for for free for a pregnant friend who doesn't exist? Maybe. I have a feeling that that might be against Ebay's terms of sale. Maybe someone who has sold on eBay would know.

 

[02bBarbie]

Even if you are absolutely correct about all of this...and perhaps you are, I really have no idea...I don't understand why you are making such a HUGE deal out of it. If you give someone an item and they re-sell it on eBay, that's not the end of the world. If you feel she has defrauded you (legally), then by all means file a claim against her. Post the information on the boards to forewarn others, or whatever. But IMO you are WAY overreacting. Just don't give her anything else, don't give to anyone at all from now on if you don't want to, but like I said, IMO you are WAY overreacting by threatening to call the news. JMO.

Because it's reprehensible behavior and the vast majority of people on the DIS are good, honest, decent people and we look out for each other.

In this situation we are making sure no one else falls prey to her scams.

She's commitng fraud - pure and simple.

Perhaps you like to overlook wrongdoing - there are many of us who do not.

Having said that, and your subsequent post, I also think contacting a news agency would accomplish little and if anything give the DIS a bad name.

This may be why the mods posted Tigger1's thread on the CB about contacting the news agencies.

 

[kellyg403]

I have been following the OP's threads for awhile now and I was so sad for her friends and the babies. Then I realized that for every "helpful answer" someone gave her, she had a reason why that wouldn't fly. Then the ebay stuff came about and I was totally shocked that someone would go to these lengths. But, again this morning I have to say what goes around comes around and another little saying about illgotten gains.

I hope for the OPs sake there is some type of a reason she did this but my best guess is that whatever the reason it definitely was not good enough for what she did.

Kelly

 

[mytwotinks]

This is fascinating! It this girl had just put as much thought and energy into honestly earning some $ as she did into lying and stealing, she would probably be wealthy right now!

 

[TinkerbellMama]

Because it's reprehensible behavior and the vast majority of people on the DIS are good, honest, decent people and we look out for each other.

In this situation we are making sure no one else falls prey to her scams.

She's commitng fraud - pure and simple.

Perhaps you like to overlook wrongdoing - there are many of us who do not.

If you are so offended by these threads, I suggest *you* stop reading them

I wasn't offended at all. YOU were offended by my post, though, obviously.
Where do you get the idea that I like to overlook wrongdoing? I said "tell everyone" and "take her to court". How is that overlooking wrongdoing? I don't think calling the news or reporting her to eBay is appropriate, because quite frankly I don't think eBay will get involved in the she said, she said of how the items were obtained and I think the news would also say:
I think you were pretty rude to suggest that I like to overlook wrongdoing, just because I posted my opinion about the appropriate way to handle this situation.

 

[Tigger&Belle]

I don't think that TinkerbellMama is saying that she doesn't have a problem with what the scammer did, but she thinks that going to the media is overkill. I don't agree with her totally, but she can sure have her opinion on the matter.

I think we're all in agreement that the scammer has some real issues, to put it mildly.

 

[momrek06]

YES, I find it wrong. See my other posts for details.
I just don't think her reaction is proportionate to the crime, here. If she feels she was defrauded, she can tell others about it and file in small claims court. I don't see how calling the news is a reasonable response/threat. If others disagree, fine! I am allowed to put in my 2 cents, same as everyone else!

You know you might think she is overacting...fine, that is your opinion but really look at the whole picture...this is so wrong...Tigger1 spends her own hard earned money, takes time out of her crazy work day with baby #1 and new baby on the way, picks out lovely items for Tigger113, takes them home, wraps them all up and sends them off to Tigger113, ALL WITH SUCH WONDERFUL INTENTIONS...and before you know it these EXACT items are in TIGGER113's EBAY STORE...telling many on the DIS that she SHOWED these items to her pregnant sister/friend with twins or triplets(who has NO money) and SHE DID NOT LIKE THEM, so Tigger113 decided to LIST THEM ON EBAY..........

COME ON NOW................this is so wrong............

 

[taximomfor4]

I clicked on my saved links to the baby outfits. The outfits sent by Tiggger1 were replaced by a GF gingerbread house pin and a Marie pin. Maybe remorse has set in and those outfits are getting sent back??

 

[MosMom]

but I also wonder what would make her do such a thing.

While I understand your point, I think some people just have a criminal mind and need a way to fund their Disney trip. If she was truly in dire need, there are places to go for help.

 

[meloneyb21]

She won't be returning to this thread anytime soon so we might as well let it drop.
It's yet another DIS lesson learned....

Pretty much...

 

[va32h]

Ebay will not care about the origin of the items, unless they were actually stolen. So there isn't much point in reporting her to ebay - and doing so would probably be more harm than good, because ebay could ding you (the reporter) for auction interference, and kick your username off ebay!

The media probably isn't going to be interested in one little story - but given a couple of huge, high-profile scams (anyone catch Dateline last week, and the woman who conned thousands of dollars out of people when she claimed she had cancer?) maybe a local news channel would be interested in a story about internet scams in general.

The bottom line is I don't believe ANYONE who comes online with a sob story and asks for free stuff. It's just too easy for them to lie about it.

 

[TCPluto]

the OP is trash....plain and simple.

Don't hold back, tell us what you really think!!

By the way, you're likely right. But she's not alone, unfortunately...

 

[seven dwarfs]

What is this world coming to? The sad part in this is she is making it hard to trust anyone. If she intended on selling the items she should have disclosed that from the beginning. I hope she is banned from the Dis not just because she was wrong but because it would set an example for others. As far as over reacting goes, we all sometimes do this when we have been hurt. It is easy to judge outside the box. If I had been tricked by this person I would be very upset too. I just hope she learns a lesson in life. It would be better for her to come clean. Admit what she did and return the stuff with a "I am sorry" to save herself. What goes around comes around. She should watch out for carma.

 

[HappyLawyer]

this is not the place for this discussion,

now here is some professional and free advice

if there is no written or verbal contract in ref to the items, that specifically states she cannot resell or give the items away it is basically none of your business.

i don't know the facts or the background but if the op said she needed things when she did not (AGAIN ONLY IF THIS HAPPENED) just to sell them, she should be ashamed of herself, it is more of a moral issue not one of fraud. -again i have no idea if this is true.

Once you give items away, they no longer belong to you, and what she does with them from this point forward does not concern you.

I have taken part in my fair share of arguments and debates here but hear me when i say this is not the place for this fued. Everyone act like adults and let it go.

If threats are made, and again IF document it, keep any proof you have and you can take it up as a civil matter but if the two of you are in different states, it becomes difficult, You can call your local police department and make a report. They will contact her or her local police department for them to speak with her.

I sincerely hope, that 1 no one is making threats and 2. no one would make up a tale that someone is making threats just to gain sympothy- i am not on the side of anyone here but perhpas it is best if you
leave the matter alone, do not post on it anymore, do not post or make harsh statements about it period.

Everything done in the dark will someday come to light

let's grow up and act like adults.

good luck

 

[HappyLawyer]

So the exact items that I sent you just happen to be the exact items that are in your ebay store. Right down to the minnie outfit with the wrong piglet hat and the same pooh outfit, the bibs and J&D's outfit. please

and I never threated you or your family. I told you that if i didnt get my items back I would contact the news and ebay.

Get over it you got caught!

if you gave her the items willingly they belong to her, even IF it was given under a false pretense (again, we cannot judge)

there are 3 sides to every story,

 

[HappyLawyer]

Tell your dtr that was such an awesome thing to do.

 

[MosMom]

They may be hers but she gave a sob story about giving them to a friend or a sister. That story has changed a few times. We will probably never know if a friend or sister even exists...most likely not since the story does keep changing.

Indeed, they may have been hers at that point but the right thing to do when she found out her "friend/sister didn't want them" would have been to talk to tiggger1 and either return them or donate them.

To turn around and sell them to make money is awful....from any 3 sides you look at it.

 

[sha_lyn]

The OP is also selling Starbuck coupons she clamed she needed for her sister, and refillable mugs she claimed were for her daughters collection.
I can not believe anyone here would take up for a lying cheat.

 

[MosMom]

That is true sha_lyn, she also has the mugs and Starbucks coupons (which she claimed she needed because SHE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO EBAY) were up on eBay.