Pixar reanimates Disney

When the company I work for was bought out, the terms of the buy out had a clause about not being able to leave the company for a certain number of years to start a business to compete with what we do. My guess is Disney would be smart enough to put this into the terms, and the Pixar guys seeing $$$$ would have no problem with it.

darrrrren
 
This from the Yahoo news brief just posted.

"Pixar Executive Vice President John Lasseter will become chief creative officer of the animation studios and principal creative adviser at Walt Disney Imagineering, which designs and builds the company's theme parks."

This looks promising to have Mr. Lasseter advising imagineering along with heading up animation. After all, he was very instrumental in bringing Western attention to Miyasaki's films so he does appreciate hand-drawn animation as well as his own specialty in computer-generated. That, and he seems to "get it" with regard to the story-telling behind the animation.
 
Y'know, after watching some behind-the-scenes stuff on Pixar, and seeing how much they revere the "old school" methods of Disney animation (you HAVE to watch the behind the scenes section on the Incredibles DVD), I think Pixar coming in is great. There's a really old-fashioned mentality to how they animate - everyone chips in, works together, and has fun along the way.

Additionally, as much fun as the Shrek & co. movies are, they simply don't have the "heart" that Pixar's flicks do. Antz may be funny, but A Bug's Life was classic. Shrek is great, but has already become dated. To me, there's nothing amusing about seeing Hollywood celebs in animated version. Pixar doesn't do that - ever. I've often said to my friends that Pixar is like the old Disney - the Nine Old Men version.

Plus, Lasseter is coming in as advisor of Imagineering - how great is that!! Finally, an actually Imagineering department again - with a creative person, not a bean-counter. As long as he doesn't tear down the classics (no more Toad massacre - PLEASE!), it will bring a lot of energy and new people into the company - people who actually want to Disney again and hopefully won't be burnt out or hurt by them (like animators were when the Orlando Studio closed).

(Oh, and Iger and Jobs are on CNN right now!! Yip!)
 
That is an interesting observation about celebs. I never thought of it, but it is true that celeb movies are usually not as good.

I am a bit leary about the deal. It seems that the price was overpaid, but, that it is being softened by the fear of what may have happened. I believe Pixar had income of about 140 million last year, which makes 7 billion high. Plus, there can be expected some failings in the movies, and, Pixar may know something about their future offerings that is hidden.

That being said, I am always concerned when a company "sells its soul" to buy its competition. Usually, the competition comes in and takes over. I don't know how a Pixar/Apple mentality would work at Disney. Disney seems to me to be a more "long range" company, in that its actions are mostly into the future, i.e. television shows for future years, theme parks that take years for ideas to get off the ground, etc. while I see Jobs as more of an immediate type guy. Apple soars, then falls. IPod soars, but now that competition is starting to arrive, we will see what happens.

I am just pontificating, but, I am not all happy about the deal, and, not all upset about it. I am more just anxious, and hope it works to keep the focus on clean entertainment.
 

My thought is this. Disney always works best with a balance between creation and money-side: Walt and Roy Sr., Frank Wells and Eisner back in the 80's and early 90's, perhaps, now Lasseter and Iger.

Certainly, it will be interesting to watch what develops. If nothing else, I think we are in for some amazing discussions.
 
Well it happened!
If we have a choice between fretting and rejoicing, let's rejoice. :cool1:
There were worse possible outcomes.
 
It comes down to this... This will either be great for Disney, or horrible for Pixar. The potential for great is that we could get a creative, vibrant Pixar, with even more resources at its disposal, and a Disney who re-learns what creation is all about. The potential for horrible is that the Disney machine is just too unwieldy to accept that kind of change, and when the Pixar unit has a slip-up (as everyone does eventually), its culture and creative method are squashed.

Which will it be? Only time will tell. Yes, some of the key Pixar people are in apparent positions of power, but are they really committed to not only maintaining what Pixar does, but also spreading that to other creative areas of Disney? Is Iger truly committed, or did he just make the only move that could save his job? If they are committed, can they pull it off? Will they stay true to it when something fails and the Street calls for "safe"?

Like I said, time will tell.

On some of the details...

Pixar succeeds because he lets Lasseter create and doesn't try to be Walt Disney. When Eisner fancied himself Walt and Roy all rolled into one he started getting into trouble. I think Jobs would have the same potential.
While I agree Jobs = Eisner 2 is a possibility (probably moreso than Iger ever being Eisner 2), he has at least shown the willingness to let people like Lasseter do their job, as you noted. Something Eisner became increasingly unwilling/unable to do. I think that there is a pretty good chance Jobs will continue that way of thinking.

Though, that brings up the fact that at least at this point, he has nowhere near the power Eisner had. Yes, as noted, he is the biggest shareholder, but at 7.something percent, he will have to be heard, but certainly not obeyed.

Yes, he will also have a board seat, but Roy/Stan held two, and look where that got them.

He apparently won't have any direct management responsibilities, which is obviously unlike Eisner.

On the other hand, he won't have to deal with an all-powerful Eisner either, as there is no such entity.

So IF Jobs really wants to initiate significant changes and/or initiate some kind of power play in the future, the key, I believe, will be his ability to win over other large shareholders (like Roy and the mutual/pension funds, if not Eisner), and influence other members of the Board. Who knows, perhaps he has already done this, or at least planted some seeds.

Then again, perhaps he has no intention of stirring things up, and really is going to focus on Apple and be just another director.
 
$7 billion+...there goes ticket prices....again! Funny what a 5 month/ no Ei$ner time frame will do. Pixar would not even talk to Disney when Michael was there.
 
raidermatt said:
... and when the Pixar unit has a slip-up (as everyone does eventually), its culture and creative method are squashed...

It's possible that slip-up is already in the works and the writing has been on the wall for some time now. I really hope "Pixney" has not shot all its bullets already.
 
...or is it "Disnar"?
That sounds perilously close to "Eisner." Or am I the only one that heard that rhyme?

Sarangel
 
This is in some ways more of a merger than a takeover, but hopefully the "Disney" name will remain intact! :rotfl:

It will be interesting to see how the next picture is released though. Will it be called a "Disney" film, a "Pixar" film (whom WE own!) or a "Disney-Pixar" film?

I tend to agree that Pixar's first "flop" (in the sense of not a runaway success) may be on the way. In any case it is inevitable. Hopefully Disney has learned their lesson about creative control, and will tell them to just relax and keep trying, rather than using it as an excuse for their "suits" to move in and start giving orders.
 
dennis99ss said:
That is an interesting observation about celebs. I never thought of it, but it is true that celeb movies are usually not as good.QUOTE]


Then there might be a problem with CARS


Bob Costas playing Bob Cutlass

uh oh
 
Based on the trailers I've seen for cars, I think it will do quite well.

Plus it has an old military jeep in it, makes me want to get off my butt and get mine restored :)

darrren
 


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