Picky eater vent

You know, I don't really care if people let their kids be picky. The only time I really roll my eyes at it is when I read things here like, "My husband really really really is dying to try Biergarten but I'm worried my picky 8 year old won't eat anything there, so I'm not making ADRs."

When you allow a picky child to influence restaurant decisions for the whole family, that's just wrong.
 
You know, I don't really care if people let their kids be picky. The only time I really roll my eyes at it is when I read things here like, "My husband really really really is dying to try Biergarten but I'm worried my picky 8 year old won't eat anything there, so I'm not making ADRs."

When you allow a picky child to influence restaurant decisions for the whole family, that's just wrong.

I similar thread sparked this one. And I think the point of the whole discussion.
 
The article on sensory issues is interesting. I am going to have to make sure my mother gets a copy so she knows that I wasn't just picky all those years, I have a disorder. And that is not joking. I am 51 years old now and famous among family and friends for my aversion to many foods. I will not eat most cooked vegetables (fresh corn is the exception) and I will not eat most fruits. There are also many raw vegetables I will not eat - typically those that smell bad when they are cooked like brocolli and cauliflower.

I always said it was a texture thing in my mouth, not taste. Most people didn't believe me and just said picky eater. And 50 years ago, you forced kids to eat - I can remember many nights sitting at the table until bedtime watching a plate of food because I wasn't allowed to leave the table until I ate all my veggies. I would swallow peas whole. Eventually my mother did give in. She would make a salad for me (I like lettuce and cucumbers, but no tomato) or cut up carrot sticks (love raw carrots) for a veggie.

Interestingly I eat almost all kinds of fish, seafood and meat. And I am not particularly picky about starches.

I definitely sympathize with those who have a legitimate food problem with their kids. Forcing them to eat won't help the situation.
 
Wow are you judgemental!!!! I am guessing your post is directed at me since I posted this question yesterday. Guess what, - although I guess I should not feel like I need to justify myself to you - we have tried very very hard to get our kids to eat many things. Two of my children do ok, eat tons of fruit and some vegetables, but do not eat pasta and rarely chicken. One of my children is very very picky. Oh and her favorite food - that she eats two a day? Green apples. Not junk, however sitting down at a disney restaurant and asking for a green apple isn't going to happen. You actually feel the need to "Vent" over someone else's question? Really? I think it is only appropriate to vent over some issue you yourself are having. I am a veteran on here and have been a regular poster for years and this is the first time I have ever truly been insulted. Yes, I am mad in case you are wondering. It is posts like yours that make people feel like the don't have the freedom to discuss issues they are having in case they might be "judged". Whether or not you choose to believe it - children are born with personalities and their own tastes. Or and my daughter who has this challenge does also happen to have a learning disability, but I do not think this affects the way she eats. I do not believe we have "created" her problem any more than we "created" her learning disability. Judge least you be judged. I hope you never have any issues with your children that you cannot "force" them to change. Wow - you truly may have ruined the boards for me.
 

Oh and to the poster who attached the article about the sensory issues - thank you very much! That makes me wonder if maybe that may be part of my daughters problem. I was getting concern she might have a reason as she is getting more and more limited. She is very extreme about certain things (terrified of dogs and costumed characters..)
 
While I agree with the majority of comments, one thing I wanted to point out that I learned after I grew up is that sometimes what might seem as being picky (and I mean picky in the sense of 'not wanting to eat something'), is misunderstood. My Aunt as a child was 'picky' and didn't like eating fish. Her parents did the tough love of eat it or go hungry so she eventually would make herself eat it. Fast forward to adulthood, turns out she has a mild allergy to fish. not enough for hives, swelling, or the normal reactions, but enough that she didn't like the taste or how it made her feel.

I've heard this before, so I don't push it. I have one child that does NOT like peanut butter. Doesn't like peanut butter flavored anything either. As far as I know he's not allergic to it & we don't watch labels, so it's not like he hasn't eaten things that have been around peanuts but I always wonder if there might be a slight food aversion, not really allergy but he always has tended to steer clear of things that have peanut/peanut butter in it & if it's a candy he hasn't had before has been known to ask me "Is there any peanut butter in this?" before he even attempts to eat it. :confused3

I'm careful about pushing common allergen foods for that reason too. Thankfully it hasn't come up, since none of my kids have any foods that they consistently avoid, but DH's history makes me cautious. When he was a kid/tween he started avoiding fish. His parents thought it was just pickiness and tween attitude, since his father was a fisherman and that made up a lot of their diet when money got tight. They didn't do the "tough love" thing and DH simply fixed himself a sandwich when the family was having fish. Fast forward a few years... When DH was a college-aged kid still living with his parents, he got home from a night out at the bar and mistook fried fish for chicken strips. And had a near-fatal anaphylactic reaction. He is severely allergic to fish, and that early aversion was due to the first, mild symptoms of that allergy.
 
I'll admit to complaining about the kid's meals, they look awful and usually do not fit with what is being offered. The exception that I saw is the hibachi (can't the name right now!). I think the solution for DW is to offer the standard kids fare at one restaurant in each park/resort and then offer food more inline with the regular menu at other restaurants. Mine will not eat chicken nuggets twice a day....I could make them, but why would I want to?


I don't have kids (at 22, most of you might say that I still am one!!), and I'm not a picky eater. I am, however, picky about the things I very much don't like. I have issues with some food textures (I do NOT eat mushrooms, raw, cooked, canned, in ANY form. I also do not eat cooked fruit besides bananas. I also do not eat cold cuts). I can always find things to eat at WDW, and my brothers, who have grown out of their picky stages, but were INCREDIBLY picky, always find something to eat too.

My complaint is that the food does look terrible. I got a kids pasta portion once and it looked dry and just not at all appetizing. Most kids dishes look pretty awful to me. Can't that be fixed?!
 
Wow are you judgemental!!!! I am guessing your post is directed at me since I posted this question yesterday. Guess what, - although I guess I should not feel like I need to justify myself to you - we have tried very very hard to get our kids to eat many things. Two of my children do ok, eat tons of fruit and some vegetables, but do not eat pasta and rarely chicken. One of my children is very very picky. Oh and her favorite food - that she eats two a day? Green apples.

:hug:Hugs, sweetie. I feel your pain. I didn't see your thread yesterday and I don't know what advice you were offered or your specific question, but I can tell you that at nearly all of the buffets that we have eaten at in Disney, they have bowls of whole fruit and green apples were always in them. I know this because that is one of the few fruits I can get my little one with sensory issues to eat, so believe me, I noticed because that is something he almost always chose. We went to Biergarten and he ate a piece of chicken breast (plain, white chicken he calls it) and a green apple, LOL. Whatever, he found something he liked and DH, who loves German food, was happy. Not saying that's where you want to go, that was just my example.
 
Thanks so much acpalmer for the suggestion. Biergarten is on my list as it is one of the few buffets we can do as DD 5, who is the one with the worst food issue, is also terrified of characters! Perhaps her fear of characters is also our fault - we didn't introduce her to Pooh at earlier enough age :goodvibes! Although we don't always try to just cater to the kids it would be great if there is something they can eat at the restaurant since we will be paying anyway and they have to eat. Too bad they have taken away burgers from so many kids menus. Only one of my children will eat pasta of any kind, not even mac and cheese. Interestingly my kids are very much a mix (one loves pizzas the others don't eat it etc. etc) but the one thing all 3 will eat is a burger. Therefore for me a place that has burgers, pizza, chicken nuggets etc fits the bill where everyone can eat. It is a vacation and meant to be fun, a rare experience in our lives as the most we can have any kind of vacation is every other year. I also think kids menus are way to limited at disney, as many only have 3 total choices and having 3 kids myself I often find there is nothing on there that one of them will eat. After all as an adult I would be very insulted to go to a restaurant that only offered 3 choices!
 
Thanks so much acpalmer for the suggestion. Biergarten is on my list as it is one of the few buffets we can do as DD 5, who is the one with the worst food issue, is also terrified of characters! Perhaps her fear of characters is also our fault - we didn't introduce her to Pooh at earlier enough age :goodvibes! Although we don't always try to just cater to the kids it would be great if there is something they can eat at the restaurant since we will be paying anyway and they have to eat. Too bad they have taken away burgers from so many kids menus. Only one of my children will eat pasta of any kind, not even mac and cheese. Interestingly my kids are very much a mix (one loves pizzas the others don't eat it etc. etc) but the one thing all 3 will eat is a burger. Therefore for me a place that has burgers, pizza, chicken nuggets etc fits the bill where everyone can eat. It is a vacation and meant to be fun, a rare experience in our lives as the most we can have any kind of vacation is every other year. I also think kids menus are way to limited at disney, as many only have 3 total choices and having 3 kids myself I often find there is nothing on there that one of them will eat. After all as an adult I would be very insulted to go to a restaurant that only offered 3 choices!

I agree that the kids meal varieties in Disney stink! I promise you, you don't want to even look at the CS options in DHS (some places only have 1 or 2 choices)! I know you were really looking forward to Teppen Edo, so maybe feed the kids before the meal and have some coloring books, etc to keep them entertained during your meal? I understand not wanting to deal with this battle while on vacation, but I'd hate to see you miss out on a great meal too. You aren't the first parent with picky eaters, don't take it too personally. Right now my 4 year old refuses to eat meat, but only every other day??? :confused3 KIDS!?!?!!?
 
I'm one of the parents of the picky eaters - we went to WDW last spring when she was 15 and my MIL paid for DXDP and DD15 ate off the kid's menu at almost every restaurant we went to. Adult portions, sure, but kid's food.

And it comes down to two things:

Generational: My ex-DH ate out all the time as a kid because his mom was working two jobs or working and going to school and he either got quick food the babysitter could make, or they ordered pizza, or ate out. So when we got married there was like six meals I could cook at home he'd eat. I got tired of eating the same six things, so we started going out to eat a lot.

And what happened? DD ordered off kid's menus at restaurants and started eating all the junky crap that are on kid's menus.

Then, they get to school, and the school lunches are the SAME CRAP. And of course no one "cool" takes their lunch so she'd refuse to take lunch or toss it and buy lunch out of her allowance. So she's eating more of the same crap.

Now at 16 she's starting to come around in the last year. But she still doesn't like melted cheese on anything but pizza, no sauces except spaghetti, no gravy.

In the last year she's started eating non-breaded chicken, turkey, ham, chili (no beans) and a few other things.

But I swore from the time she was five or six that if I ever had another kid, they would never even SEE a kid's menu and they'd eat off my plate until they were old enough to order their own adult meal.

If they'd put real food on kid's menus, kids would have an opportunity to eat it.

(And yes, we shouldn't have eaten out so much, but we were young and I was tired of having spaghetti, tacos or hamburgers over and over and over.)
 
I also think kids menus are way to limited at disney, as many only have 3 total choices and having 3 kids myself I often find there is nothing on there that one of them will eat. After all as an adult I would be very insulted to go to a restaurant that only offered 3 choices!

I believe they keep the kids menus small to discourage adults from ordering from them. Don't forget that unless you are doing the dining plan, you child is free to order from the adult menu. I have found the portions Disney serves to be large enough to share without anyone going hungry.
 
I, thankfully, have a child that ate spinach, Filet Mignon, asparagus, mahi-mahi and brussel sprouts right out of the woomb and remains so now at 14!

By the same token our friends are not so fortunate. I don't know how you all do it, just watching my best friends daughter pick at her food, complain and whine drives me insane. All macaroni and chicken nuggets are not created alike, and if the moon, and the stars aren't perfectly aligned, she won't eat her food, but she'll surely shovel in every sweet dessert she can get her grubby little paws on!

Why does this bother me you ask, it drives me crazy but in the end it's really none of my business! So I take a deep breath and I don't get involved. I'm a better cook than her mom so at times she'll see something I've made and she'll ask me if she can try it. She's now eating spinach artichoke dip, miniscule progress but hey, we'll take it!

I grew up eating what was put in front of me and it never occured to me to tell my mom that I wouldn't eat it but maybe that was because I wasn't picky, who knows. I do know that children who participate in the cooking (my son) are more likely to try something that they have prepared. I also know that most kids food in and out of Disney really grosses me out!

Hey, Good luck to you, mothers and fathers of picky eaters and grown up picky eaters, who am I to judge!
 
I am 60 years old. There were no picky eaters when I was a kid.

This might be true in your area of knowledge of your universe, but overall it is absolutely completely categorically NOT true.

My father has six siblings, and some of them, including HIM, were picky eaters.

My mother was picky. She was FORCED to eat what the family ate. She had an abusive father, and that's how he *forced* her to eat. Be beaten, or eat, basically. She ate. And after the meal was choked down, she had to run from the table to throw up what she ate (I'm now realizing why she was SO skinny!). This was usually caused by meat, she was a natural vegetarian but didn't know it (and was happy when she finally went veggie when she was in her late 40s), but since her father DEMANDED meat on the table every night, she threw up most every night.


It wasn't true 38 years ago either, once my brother was born. I was a "good eater". I was also the peacekeeper in the household. My brother would eat what he wanted to eat, and WOULD NOT eat anything else. If that hamburger had anything but bun, meat, and ketchup, NOPE. If it was PB&J sandwich, NOPE. He hated jelly. He LOVED honey. I'm the opposite; honey smells like spit to me (and of course it is, bee spit), but I'd take honey in my tea. One day we grabbed the wrong lunch bags. I dealt with the PB&H sandwich. He brought the PB&J home, and ate a bigger dinner because he wouldn't eat the jelly.

One time my mom got sick of it and made him stay at the table until his food was eaten. He was maybe 3 at the time. We were going into hour 2, I believe, and I came in and ate them for him. I was 5. I needed the strife to stop, and so I took care of it. He would have stayed there all night.

Our half brothers, from my dad, were picky from the start, and just as stubborn. Many a meal was ruined for me by those boys. It was AWFUL. They would happily sit there for hours and hours. They didn't care. They never ate what they were told to eat.

When their sister was born, my dad was in his 50s and had given up. So there were no ugly scenes, but she was just as stubborn, and still would barely eat. Thankfully, my mom and stepmom were avowed nursers, so no toddlers were going hungry, and my half sister was lucky enough to get mama milk for 5 years, because otherwise there wasn't going to be much else. She would eat plain white rice, plain chicken, & M&Ms (it's fun having older brothers who are much older than you). By 10 she had expanded to chicken nuggets.



Now...who in this scenario do you think has the allergies? Hint: it's NOT the kids who protected themselves by not eating things they would gag on! Answer: it's the peace keeper, the one who would eat everything on her plate, even the things that made her turn green. I didn't protect myself, and therefore I hurt my body. My siblings are all healthy as horses. And as adults, they have expanded their palates. My full brother who would only eat plain burgers and PB&H sandwiches will eat big Mexican meals with vegetables and various textures and all of that. I've even seen him eat a salad. As adults, palates might expand.

As for me, once I was off in college and more independent, I went vegetarian (making my food limited), and I will not eat something if I find anything distasteful about it. I'm protecting myself now.

But there have ALWAYS been picky eaters. It just depends on how abusive their parents were willing to be in order to FORCE them to eat something.

Ok Im getting tired of hearing about kids that are picky eaters. How the parents say that thier children will only eat chicken nuggets, pizza, hot dogs, & mac and cheese and how picky they are. Well stop feeding them those things.


A child is going to be a picky eater if you limit what you offer them or stop offering them something simply because they do not like it at this moment. If you consistently offer them (and make them taste) a variety of fresh fruits, veggies and proteins prepared in various ways, then sooner or later you will have a child that is an "adventurous" eater.


Some people here should have met my siblings when they were younger. They've obviously never met a truly stubborn kid.


You can't force a child to do two things: Eat and potty train. As parents, it is our job to OFFER a healthy diet, and ENCOURAGE trying new things, but you simply cannot force a child to eat. There are MANY picky eaters out there that will simply choose to not eat rather than try something they find offensive. My two kids are like that.

OP, be grateful that you don't have picky eaters. You have no idea how difficult it is. Medical or not, there is an underlying reason for ALL forms of picky eating. It's usually not the parent's fault.

My father was SUPER picky as a toddler/young child. Apparently, he went through a phase where he would only eat tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwiches. This lasted for two years, then he moved on to PB&J. This was back in the 50's...turns out, we're pretty sure he has Aspergers syndrome, which explains the picky eating, among other things. Today, my dad will eat anything that's not moving anymore. ;)

Yep, you can't force a truly stubborn person to eat. Unless there's abuse involved! And if they do eat, if they are like my mom...then that's just a huge waste of food.


It's good to know that your dad was picky too (I mean, not *good*), as it shows that there are "older" picky eaters.





My son was very happy with the cheese pizzas (especially at Sanaa), and the mac&cheese (b/c he doesn't get the industrial stuff at home), and I'm sure some people watching him would have raised their eyebrows. But they weren't there when we figured out, thanks to an error at the CBR table service place, that he is happy to eat carrots if he has *mustard* to dip it in, they don't see that he will eat a whole thing of Trader Joes hummus, etc etc etc. But WDW didn't have the tasty stuff he loves, so he ate the blander stuff he also loves. No big. Thanks to the lessons my younger siblings taught me, I know that, since it's just taste and not serious problems, an even more expanded palate will come in time.
 
I am one with a picky eater. He has autism so is outside of the norm. Their choice. Though I do agree they should not complain that they created the mess and now have to live with it.

agreed- vacation isn't the place to change eating habits..... if you created/tolerated the picky foolishness at home, why complain on vacation? we all have our own likes/dislikes....but healthy food habits don't start on vacation.....:thumbsup2
 
oh...probably too late for those with picky kids already, but a tip for preventing a lot of issues? I never told my kids there was different food for kids than there was for anyone else.... so they never got the idea in the first place! when eating out,we've always shared our foods with the kids,now they're older of course they get their own dishes..... Ds knows a couple of kids that,at 10 years old have maybe 3 foods they eat every day. along the lines of chicken nuggets and canned chicken noodle soup. He is shocked....since he eats like a machine..... I personally don;t care about pickiness,as long as it's not my family! anyone else can live how they please.....
 
My son in a picky eater because I'm a picky eater. It isn't the OP's business to tell me or him to get over it. Who went and made you the food police? If you don't want to hear or read about other people "complaining" about it then don't read it! Problem solved. Sheesh.
 
There are a few sides to this IMO:

One is, legitmiate allergies.

Ones is, legitimate food aversions (texture issues etc)

One is, no matter how hard the parents try, their child just wont eat it. And I babysat for a child like this. Her parents and I treid everything (10 introductions, 10 tatsets of a food, giving her the new items first, etc) and it worked for very very few foods. She did eventually grow out of it around 5 but during the 3 and 4 year old stages it was rough.

The final reason, is that the parents just dont try. The parents give in because it is easier for them. they dont want to deal with the tantrums or issues with trying to get their child to eat new foods. We saw this a lot at daycare. The parents would say that their child didnt like something but we had a rule during snack time that if you were not allergic to something, you had to put it on your plate (we had one healthy option---fruits, veggies and one other option--chezz its, graham crackers, etc). 95% of the time, the kid would try the healthy option once or twice and end up liking it. The parents had just never tried because giving in wa steh easy way out. We would not give seconds of the other snack if they hadnt at least tasted the healthy option. That, and the fact that the other kids were eating it, would get them to try and it and usually like it.

Personally, I think the fourth option is the most common problem. You see it a lot on these boards as well. The posts say that they dont want to deal with the meltdowns or trantrums, etc. Well, that is part of parenting. Not giving into to your childs every whim and tantrum. It's not like going to Disney has suddenly created these problems...they are problems at home as well, so deal with them before you go on vacation.
 
There are a few sides to this IMO:

One is, legitmiate allergies.

Ones is, legitimate food aversions (texture issues etc)

One is, no matter how hard the parents try, their child just wont eat it. And I babysat for a child like this. Her parents and I treid everything (10 introductions, 10 tatsets of a food, giving her the new items first, etc) and it worked for very very few foods. She did eventually grow out of it around 5 but during the 3 and 4 year old stages it was rough.

The final reason, is that the parents just dont try. The parents give in because it is easier for them. they dont want to deal with the tantrums or issues with trying to get their child to eat new foods. We saw this a lot at daycare. The parents would say that their child didnt like something but we had a rule during snack time that if you were not allergic to something, you had to put it on your plate (we had one healthy option---fruits, veggies and one other option--chezz its, graham crackers, etc). 95% of the time, the kid would try the healthy option once or twice and end up liking it. The parents had just never tried because giving in wa steh easy way out. We would not give seconds of the other snack if they hadnt at least tasted the healthy option. That, and the fact that the other kids were eating it, would get them to try and it and usually like it.

Personally, I think the fourth option is the most common problem. You see it a lot on these boards as well. The posts say that they dont want to deal with the meltdowns or trantrums, etc. Well, that is part of parenting. Not giving into to your childs every whim and tantrum. It's not like going to Disney has suddenly created these problems...they are problems at home as well, so deal with them before you go on vacation.

But if you have a child with the 3rd reason and you choose places to eat based solely on the 3 or 4 year olds tastes or choose not to go a restaurant you really want to go to because of them, then you are turning them into that 4th option. If you have to feed them "their food" before your dinner so be it, but don't let the kids dictate where you can or cannot eat.
 
You know, I don't really care if people let their kids be picky. The only time I really roll my eyes at it is when I read things here like, "My husband really really really is dying to try Biergarten but I'm worried my picky 8 year old won't eat anything there, so I'm not making ADRs."

When you allow a picky child to influence restaurant decisions for the whole family, that's just wrong.

This is what I was trying to say. I dont care if your kid will only eat mac and cheese, just dont whine that it isnt on a menu.
 












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