Photpass..no more release

[bcuinohio]

My understanding of the copyright release is that you can print all of the pictures you want as long as they are for non commercial use.

 

[DaniB]

You can always download the photopass cd to your computer and select what you want and burn those on a blank disc. If you go to Walmart etc you use the machines yourself then pay no offense but as long as it's a family photo the average clerk anywhere at any do it yourself photo place won't question you . I have done it with previous photo pass CDs no one has ever asked me for the release.

Ahh, good point - thanks!

 

[mom2rtk]

You can always download the photopass cd to your computer and select what you want and burn those on a blank disc. If you go to Walmart etc you use the machines yourself then pay no offense but as long as it's a family photo the average clerk anywhere at any do it yourself photo place won't question you . I have done it with previous photo pass CDs no one has ever asked me for the release.

Or copy them to your computer then upload them to an online printing service. It's not like they are studio portraits that you couldn't have taken on your own camera. There's no way to tell in looking at one of them if it was taken by a Photopass photog or on your own camera. .

 

[lllGurulll]

I've always wondered who even has issues with that copyright. I have never had any place ask me for the copyright release. Plus, I do photo shares so I never have the original disk anyway. Just my pics and a release form that I have never needed.

 

[vicki_c]

1 - I wouldn't rely on what the PP site says today relative to what they might have just started doing. Disney is notorious for not having correct or up to date info on their websites.

2 - Just because you may be able to get around not having a release doesn't change the problem (again if this turns out to be true). Part of the price you pay is for the limited release. No one should have to get around the rules by doing self-service printing or hoping that get a clerk who doesn't care, etc. I have my photos printed at a mom-and-pop place local to me, and they always want to see the release. I don't think I should have to downgrade the quality of my prints by using the self-service kiosk @ Walgreen's or somewhere vs. what I currently do.

I will wait to reserve judgment until more information or confirmation is available. I did read someone mentioning about getting some kind of additional info from the PP photographer now that they have started doing the castle memories show, but I don't remember what it was. Maybe a card or paper with information on how to opt-out if you didn't want your photos on the website. Not sure that's related at all to anything, but this thread made me think of it.

 

[GalDisney]

<<So what is the deal for people who don't want their own or their children's picture splashed on the castle or handed over to Disney to use >>>>
There is a phone number on the back side of the photpass where you can call and your photoswill not used in the castle show.

 

[tony609]

Or copy them to your computer then upload them to an online printing service. It's not like they are studio portraits that you couldn't have taken on your own camera. There's no way to tell in looking at one of them if it was taken by a Photopass photog or on your own camera. .

Another goodway. However I don't think Disney would do away with the release on the photopass purchase it's to expensive if they don't want us to make actual pictures.

 

[PrincessArlena'sDad]

1 - I wouldn't rely on what the PP site says today relative to what they might have just started doing. Disney is notorious for not having correct or up to date info on their websites.

In general, yes, but not for something like this.

If someone bought the photopass CD today, and the release wasn't included, that would be fraud on Disney's part.

Also, another problem Disney would have is that people rely on being able to use photopass instead of their own camera, with the knowledge they'll get the release (especially those who already prepurchased the CD, which clearly says you are purchasing a copyright release)

Disney legal would never let Disney take the release out of the CD like this. It would be a PR and legal nightmare.

And, there is no REASON for Disney to take the release off the CD. The release doesn't prevent them from using the photos anyway they want (castle show, promoting material, or anything else). Never did.

 

[GalDisney]

welll Disney is not incluing the release anymore, so obviously they can stop providing it.

 

[eeyoresnr]

I'll believe it when I see it

 

[mytripsandraces]

Disney may change the license of the release to include a non-exclusive license to use any of the pictures in the show. That would resolve both of the issues.

 

[PrincessArlena'sDad]

Disney may change the license of the release to include a non-exclusive license to use any of the pictures in the show. That would resolve both of the issues.

The license already had this.

 

[tony609]

Has anyone bought a cd lately that's the true way of knowing. No offense to op but we all know we can call Disney 10 times and get 10 different answers. The only reliable source at Wdw is the bus driver lol.

I am only saying that as the running dis joke on. Here please no offense was implied.

 

[acc9242]

Disney could EASILY change the release to a limited release that states that Disney still owns the copyright (so they could use on the castle) but give a limited print release to customers who purchase CD, which would enable them to have prints made. I'm a pro photog (NOT photopass) who has had so much legal help with this type of thing, so I'm SURE something as big as Disney could find a way to protect themselves, while also being able to sell $150 CDs (which is cheap by my standards )

 

[eeyoresnr]

Has anyone bought a cd lately that's the true way of knowing. No offense to op but we all know we can call Disney 10 times and get 10 different answers. The only reliable source at Wdw is the bus driver lol.

I am only saying that as the running dis joke on. Here please no offense was implied.

I pre-ordered mine in Dec before our teip and finished it the 1st...it mailed yesterday so it should be here in a day or so...I'll let you know what mine says

 

[vicki_c]

Disney could EASILY change the release to a limited release that states that Disney still owns the copyright (so they could use on the castle) but give a limited print release to customers who purchase CD, which would enable them to have prints made. I'm a pro photog (NOT photopass) who has had so much legal help with this type of thing, so I'm SURE something as big as Disney could find a way to protect themselves, while also being able to sell $150 CDs (which is cheap by my standards )

As far as I recall, that is basically what the release said, as PrincessArlena's Dad saying. I have a PP CD from December about 20 feet away from me, but I just don't feel like pulling it up to see what the language was and I didn't download that file to my laptop it looks like. You never owned the images, you just got a limited release for non-commercial purposes.

 

[bsmcneil]

Does anyone, including OP, have proof of this sudden rule change?

 

[bumbershoot]

Someone has explained this, IF it is happening at all, to the OP very poorly.

If they were going to do this, they would get RID of the CD. The CD has absolutely ZERO value if you don't get to make prints. None. The POINT of the CD is that you have "a worldwide, perpetual, royalty free license to reproduce, prepare derivative works of, distribute,and display the digital photo files contained on the CD solely for person, non-commercial use."


Without this, why make the CD at all?

They are not having the release anymore becasue of the photo's being projected on the castle. their reason is if YOU own the photos becasue you have a release, Disney cant potentially use the photos on the castle becasue you own them.

So not true. "Buyer acknowledges and agrees that he/she receives no rights or ownership interest of any type in or with respect to any intellectual property owned by Seller and it's affiliates, or any third party, displayed in or as part of any Photo File or Photograph and that all such rights remain the property of their respective owners."

In other words, Disney is the owner, and we have some rights to them. They can do whatever they want with them. Already.

Its still cheaper to buy the cd with as many photos as you can get, than to have the photos printed individually from photpass..

Buy the CD and do....what, exactly? Look at them on your computer?

Because without the release, you have absolutely NO legal right to do anything ELSE with them AT ALL.

Or copy them to your computer then upload them to an online printing service. It's not like they are studio portraits that you couldn't have taken on your own camera. There's no way to tell in looking at one of them if it was taken by a Photopass photog or on your own camera. .

Illegal.

And even online places have the right to ask for your release. They can tell when something is probably owned by someone else. I bought our DVDs and the rights to my wedding images, and the site I went to had the right to ask for my release.

I've always wondered who even has issues with that copyright. I have never had any place ask me for the copyright release. Plus, I do photo shares so I never have the original disk anyway. Just my pics and a release form that I have never needed.

Walmart is a biggie for halting people without releases.

 

[vicki_c]

Thanks Molly for letting me be lazy and you looking up the info on the release! Have a good night all!

 

[bumbershoot]

Thanks Molly for letting me be lazy and you looking up the info on the release! Have a good night all!

You're welcome. I'd just gotten the disc and it was sitting right here, so I just pulled it out and typed it in....