Photoshop help!

[tkyes]

I know there are a couple Photoshop users out there on the DIS. I'm hoping someone can help me.

I am working on a huge file - 7" x 70". I saved it as a tiff and then I'm going to import it as a picture in Quark because I want to tile print it.

Well I opened a new document in Quark and "get picture" only to have my tiff file now be .4" x 4" and 5250 dpi!! Hello!!

Why is Photoshop changing my file size?


When I do a smaller image as a test, just 2" x 2", it works just fine. It sounds like there is an issue with file size, but I can import images that are just as large that I have worked on previously, but nothing that I've worked on this afternoon.

I have rebooted and that did nothing for me.

Any ideas!! I'm desperate!!

Tamie

 

[helenabear]

Tamie, I use Photoshop all the time for many things and I have never had this problem... I don't even know what to begin to think. I wish I could try it on my version of Photoshop (currently only have 6 loaded and not 7 yet... been too lazy too). Hopefully I can bump this to see if others have experienced that. And this puzzles me because even if I change the quality, I have only had the resolution change but not the size to make it a "bad quality" pic. WIsh I could help more on this...

 

[tkyes]

I've never encountered this either.

I am going to try and do more research and play around with things today again. It's hard to search on the topic though when I don't really know what to call my issue!



tamie

 

[helenabear]

Tamie, since no one else has any idea, I just sent a link to this thread off to my husband. A lot of his friends use Photoshop (mostly for fun) but are much more advanced than I am. Maybe they'll have an idea for you. Good luck!

 

[tkyes]

Thanks Elaine.

According to some users on the Adobe website - this is a Quark Xpress issue. I'm still trying to search and see what I can do to fix it, but I'm not having any luck.

It might be time to upgrade to a new version of Quark.

Thanks for your help!


tamie

 

[jfulcer]

Is the Quark issue because of the file type or other problem?

Can you use Photoshop to save it as a different file type (PSD or some other) that Quark is able to read? Heck you could even save it as a JPG with no compression to see if that works.

Good luck!

 

[tkyes]

No, it has to do with the fact that Quarks maximum page size is 48" and my file is 70". I'm unable to figure out if this is a universal Quark issue or just with my version (4.1).

There are ways I can work around it, I'll just have to do those for now.

 

[lilboo]

It does sound like a Quark issue and not a Photoshop one.

Have you resized the image(either canvas size or dpi) so that it Quark will accept it? Shrink it, then print out a small test on Quark and see if you can live with the diminished resolution.(maybe a compressed file format like .png might help or as sugggested .jpg files might be ok depending on the detail of your image)

The OTHER option is...what is this tile print option in Quark? I guess I'm wondering if Photoshop wouldn't be able to accommodate? (Do you also own Illustrator or any of the other Adobe graphics programs? Between all those programs, there MIGHT be something that'll help you print out your poster within the Adobe family, eliminating the need to translate to Quark.)


Good luck.

 

[tkyes]

Yes, one option is reducing the image size, increasing the resolution so that Quark will accomodate it and printing it that way.

No, Photoshop doesn't let me tile print. Doing a tile print (probably not the technical term for it) just means I can print a large image on multiple pieces of paper and they will all line up.

Yes, I have Illustrator. I was playing around with it yesterday and it wasn't cooperating either. I didn't spend a lot of time in Illustrator though, I was frustrated at that point.

Last night when this had to go in the mail we just sent the customer a small version that fit on 11 x 17 paper so they can get a rough idea of what the project looks like. If this gets approved it will be printed professionally so it won't be an issue.

 

[CRSNDSNY]

In Photoshop, go to IMAGE>IMAGE SIZE and tell me what the original ppi/dpi is of your image.

Also, are you working on a PC or a Mac?

 

[CRSNDSNY]

Originally posted by jfulcer
Is the Quark issue because of the file type or other problem?

Can you use Photoshop to save it as a different file type (PSD or some other) that Quark is able to read? Heck you could even save it as a JPG with no compression to see if that works.

Good luck!

There are certain file types that QuarkXPress will not accept, and it isn't very forgiving with Adobe file extensions (apples and oranges). But, one important question will be what the OP wants the Quark output for...is it for web design or is it for print design. JPEG is a compressed file which compresses the original file and pretty much deletes unneeded information in turn giving a less-than perfect print quality document (smaller file size -- great for web, not for print). JPEG is used mostly on the web and other on-screen viewing-only output because of the loss of quality when saving (even in maximum quality).

Also, I do not believe that the original problem the OP was having had anything to do with the versions of the software she was running but more with the ppi/dpi of the original image, computer platform, and type of output she is looking for.

 

[tkyes]

7" x 70" 300 dpi


if I crop it and was to make it 7" x 48" - it works just fine! Just nothing over 48"

I'm on a PC.


Tamie

 

[CRSNDSNY]

(1) Does your picture box extend beyond the page borders into the pasteboard area?

(2) Is this design for print?

 

[tkyes]

no - it doesn't extend.

yes - it's for print - but it doesn't work no matter what the resolution is.

 

[coqui]

Well what DPI is the 7" 70" pic? What could be happening is that the new quark document is set to some insanly high DPI, and when you import the TIF it is resizing it in order to keep the same DPI setting.

 

[CRSNDSNY]

Originally posted by coqui
Well what DPI is the 7" 70" pic? What could be happening is that the new quark document is set to some insanly high DPI, and when you import the TIF it is resizing it in order to keep the same DPI setting.

Quark documents are not image files, they are document files and as such you do not set a specific DPI for them. The only time a DPI gets set on an XPress document is when you are formatting it for output based on your imagesetter or desktop printer.


What I would suggest is keep the Photoshop document as the 300 dpi (if indeed this is what your imagesetter or printer is set to print -- higher if needed based on your output source). But do just what you did and fix the size in Photoshop to the desired size in XPress. If I were you, I'd also save this image as a flattened version and import it as a TIFF for PC or an EPS for MAC.

The reason I asked if it extended is because if you're doing a bleed, you'd need to allow for the extension outside the margin(s) in the image before importing and placing it.