Photo sharing: Sony Alpha

Dance recital time!

Shot with NEX-7 + Minolta 200mm 2.8 wide open. The shots were a bit tighter than I wanted but the lens continues to impress. Lighting was not as good as last year so I was forced to shoot wide open or at f/3.2 ISO 1600,3200.
I also had my SEL 50mm 1.8 which turned out to be a bit too wide. I felt like I was on the golf course with a 160yd shot to the green with a 7 and 5 but no 6 iron; in this case I was in need of a 135mm lens or a 70-200 2.8. The other option was to swap seats with someone about 3 rows behind me, but my wife thinks I'm crazy as it is.

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Beautiful shots. Yes, shooting with a 200 prime can be challenging... There are times when you want to zoom out. But it forces you to really work for your composition, and it pays off. Your second shot particularly...

Were you manual focusing or autofocus?

I'm bringing my 300mm prime to Alaska... some people have tried to scare me away from leaving the 70-200 at home, but I don't want to carry 2 fairly large lenses. And I'm used to making a prime work.
 
Thanks @havoc315!

Everything was manual focused. I'm looking to sell my LA-EA4 as I've discovered that my MF gets more keepers than it's AF even with action shots.

I think if you don't bring your 300 you'll regret it. You can use the 'ol "foot zoom" technique, which was not afforded to me in a crowded theatre. Looking forward to your shots.
 
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Thanks @havoc315!

Everything was manual focused. I'm looking to sell my LA-EA4 as I've discovered that my MF gets more keepers than it's AF even with action shots.

I think if you don't bring your 300 you'll regret it. You can use the 'ol "foot zoom" technique, which was not afforded to me in a crowded theatre. Looking forward to your shots.
Thanks @havoc315!

Everything was manual focused. I'm looking to sell my LA-EA4 as I've discovered that my MF gets more keepers than it's AF even with action shots.

I think if you don't bring your 300 you'll regret it. You can use the 'ol "foot zoom" technique, which was not afforded to me in a crowded theatre. Looking forward to your shots.
Thanks @havoc315!

Everything was manual focused. I'm looking to sell my LA-EA4 as I've discovered that my MF gets more keepers than it's AF even with action shots.

I think if you don't bring your 300 you'll regret it. You can use the 'ol "foot zoom" technique, which was not afforded to me in a crowded theatre. Looking forward to your shots.
Thanks @havoc315!

Everything was manual focused. I'm looking to sell my LA-EA4 as I've discovered that my MF gets more keepers than it's AF even with action shots.

I think if you don't bring your 300 you'll regret it. You can use the 'ol "foot zoom" technique, which was not afforded to me in a crowded theatre. Looking forward to your shots.

Hard to use foot zoom while whale watching! I'll use my 300, possibly with a teleconverter. If I'm not wide enough for a few shots, I'll lose a few shots. I can resort to my RX100 for some simultaneous wide shots.
Yes, it's a risk.... A whale could pop up right next to the ship and I'll wish I was at 70mm... but from the realistic distances (Federal law requires the ships to try to stay 100 years away from whales), 300mm should be a pretty good focal length.
 

Fractal, I love your shots!

Since you mention you use manual focus, can I ask a quick question? I know you use a Sony (which probably will work different from my Canon), but I have a hard time getting anything useful in manual mode. I would love to get back to manual as auto sometimes just does not focus on where I want it to focus. And setting it to one focus point only.... yeah well if the object is not in that focus point area, it'll still misfocus on auto. My problem is though that when I learned manual back on film, you had horizontal and vertical lines and you just needed to line them up on the object you want in focus and off you went. I miss that with my digital and the gazillion focus points it has. Is there a trick to making manual work on fast moving objects? With static and slow moving objects I have no problem really but faster moving objects just do not want to work at all!
 
Fractal, I love your shots!

Since you mention you use manual focus, can I ask a quick question? I know you use a Sony (which probably will work different from my Canon), but I have a hard time getting anything useful in manual mode. I would love to get back to manual as auto sometimes just does not focus on where I want it to focus. And setting it to one focus point only.... yeah well if the object is not in that focus point area, it'll still misfocus on auto. My problem is though that when I learned manual back on film, you had horizontal and vertical lines and you just needed to line them up on the object you want in focus and off you went. I miss that with my digital and the gazillion focus points it has. Is there a trick to making manual work on fast moving objects? With static and slow moving objects I have no problem really but faster moving objects just do not want to work at all!

Thanks @elmoandzoey ! With my Sony NEX-7 I lean heavily on focus peaking when I manually focus. In fact, often times when using AF I will still use focus peaking as the camera allows me to zoom in after the AF is locked to make fine adjustments. The zoom in feature (magnification) is also available with manual focusing.

Without focus peaking I think I would find MF very frustrating. Here's an example of how it works...


I believe all Sony Alpha cameras with an EVF have focus peaking.
 
Regarding moving objects; with focus peaking I can actually "track" the subject and sync it's movement with the turning of the focus ring. Mind you, this is after hours and hours of practice shooting lots of sports and dancing.

The other "tool" I use with moving objects is the speed priority shutter. My camera can shoot 9fps in Jpeg and about 4 or 5 in Raw. I can usually count on one or more of those cluster shots to be good.
What camera do you have?
 
The 60D doesn't have that. Manual focusing pretty much is looking through the viewfinder, half pressing the shutter and holding it in place while you zoom. Evenutally the focus point that is in focus will light up. Then you press the shutter completely. I find that so damn cumbersome because more often than not I fully press the shutter before I have locked in focus where I want to lock it in. And then I have to start all over again. With static objects, I just turn on liveview and zoom in 10x. When it's sharp, I press the shutter. Liveview itself doesn't even have a focus indication like you have if you look through the viewfinder. Neither of these options really work well with fast moving objects though. Or at least they don't work for me.

I guess I need to see if the EOS M has that.
 
The 60D doesn't have that. Manual focusing pretty much is looking through the viewfinder, half pressing the shutter and holding it in place while you zoom. Evenutally the focus point that is in focus will light up. Then you press the shutter completely. I find that so damn cumbersome because more often than not I fully press the shutter before I have locked in focus where I want to lock it in. And then I have to start all over again. With static objects, I just turn on liveview and zoom in 10x. When it's sharp, I press the shutter. Liveview itself doesn't even have a focus indication like you have if you look through the viewfinder. Neither of these options really work well with fast moving objects though. Or at least they don't work for me.

I guess I need to see if the EOS M has that.

Pretty sure the M doesn't have it. For some reason, Canon and Nikon haven't implemented focus peaking into their live view.

Unfortunately, the "M" is a very half-hearted mirrorless attempt. For a Canon user who wants to manually focus lenses, they may be better off with a Sony mirrorless and adapter.

EVENTUALLY Canon and Nikon will take mirrorless seriously.... When they do, they will likely catch up or even surpass Sony very quickly. But for now, they are biding their time. They don't want to disrupt anything about their traditional lineups. And the camera market is shrinking, whether mirrorless or traditional. But in the end, mirrorless would let them add more features, at lower cost. If they don't take mirrorless seriously, then Sony and Samsung and Fuji will nibble away slowly at their market share.... especially among younger newer photographers who have no sentimental attachment to OVFs. Eventually Canon and/or Nikon will release a truly compelling mirrorless camera alongside their dSLRs -- And they will find it much more profitable than their dSLR. (Imagine a Rebel sitting next to a Rebel Mirrorless.... with the mirrorless having better live view, faster frame rate, better autofocus in most cases, and being cheaper to produce... which would most buyers be purchasing?) There will even be some initial buyer excitement when Canon or Nikon release their first truly compelling mirrorless, which will lead them to want to expand the lineups. (Much like Nikon has been on a full frame push for the last 2-3 years).

I suspect my Nikon D750 is my last "traditional" dSLR, maybe second to last. But I suspect we will see a sudden Tsunami of transition once Canon or Nikon release a serious mirrorless.

For now, Sony is the only game in town for APS-C and Full frame mirrorless. (Though Samsung and Fuji have great APS-C mirrorless... and nothing is wrong with the Oly/Pan 4:3 system for people who want smaller).
 
So I googled. Apparently magic lantern allows you to turn on focus peaking for live you on both the 60D and the M. So far I have only ever used it for multi bracketing sequences on the 60D when the native 3 the Canon AEB mode offers didn't cut it. I guess I have to turn it on and see how it works. If it is anything like in the Alpha vid above, I am pretty sure I'll start loving it and probably will use a lot more manual focusing that auto focusing.
 
So I googled. Apparently magic lantern allows you to turn on focus peaking for live you on both the 60D and the M. So far I have only ever used it for multi bracketing sequences on the 60D when the native 3 the Canon AEB mode offers didn't cut it. I guess I have to turn it on and see how it works. If it is anything like in the Alpha vid above, I am pretty sure I'll start loving it and probably will use a lot more manual focusing that auto focusing.

I forgot about magic lantern! Should work great
 
Pretty sure the M doesn't have it. For some reason, Canon and Nikon haven't implemented focus peaking into their live view.

Unfortunately, the "M" is a very half-hearted mirrorless attempt. For a Canon user who wants to manually focus lenses, they may be better off with a Sony mirrorless and adapter.

EVENTUALLY Canon and Nikon will take mirrorless seriously.... When they do, they will likely catch up or even surpass Sony very quickly. But for now, they are biding their time. They don't want to disrupt anything about their traditional lineups. And the camera market is shrinking, whether mirrorless or traditional. But in the end, mirrorless would let them add more features, at lower cost. If they don't take mirrorless seriously, then Sony and Samsung and Fuji will nibble away slowly at their market share.... especially among younger newer photographers who have no sentimental attachment to OVFs. Eventually Canon and/or Nikon will release a truly compelling mirrorless camera alongside their dSLRs -- And they will find it much more profitable than their dSLR. (Imagine a Rebel sitting next to a Rebel Mirrorless.... with the mirrorless having better live view, faster frame rate, better autofocus in most cases, and being cheaper to produce... which would most buyers be purchasing?) There will even be some initial buyer excitement when Canon or Nikon release their first truly compelling mirrorless, which will lead them to want to expand the lineups. (Much like Nikon has been on a full frame push for the last 2-3 years).

I suspect my Nikon D750 is my last "traditional" dSLR, maybe second to last. But I suspect we will see a sudden Tsunami of transition once Canon or Nikon release a serious mirrorless.

For now, Sony is the only game in town for APS-C and Full frame mirrorless. (Though Samsung and Fuji have great APS-C mirrorless... and nothing is wrong with the Oly/Pan 4:3 system for people who want smaller).

The problem Nikon and Canon will have deals with the importance of the sensor in mirrorless. Canon is way behind Sony's sensors and Nikon relies on Sony for it's sensors. Unless that changes dramatically Sony will have the advantage. Frankly, I think that is one reason they are clinging onto DSLRs so much and hoping mirrorless is a fad.
 
The problem Nikon and Canon will have deals with the importance of the sensor in mirrorless. Canon is way behind Sony's sensors and Nikon relies on Sony for it's sensors. Unless that changes dramatically Sony will have the advantage. Frankly, I think that is one reason they are clinging onto DSLRs so much and hoping mirrorless is a fad.

Canon's sensors are underrated by DXO scores... They really aren't thaaat far behind. And Nikon actually uses sensors from several makers. Canon's sensors are indeed "good enough" that it really wouldn't be a limiting factor. Plus, they can always buy Sony sensors too, which they have started to do with the G7x.

I don't think they believe that mirrorless is a fad... More likely, they don't want to disrupt their client base. Sony had so little dSLR market share, they could afford to take a big risk, and launch a whole new mount system.
Nikon has not launched a competitive APS-C/Full frame mount system -- instead going with a 1" sensor mount for their mirrorless. Plus, the earlier models especially, were totally anti-enthusiast. No manual control dials, etc.
Canon has launched a APS-C mirrorless mount -- but the newest model hasn't even been released in the USA. It lacks a viewfinder, it only have 3 or 4 native lenses.

Their fear.... If they aggressively launched a new mount system... It could interrupt their current traditional lens sales, and it would invite their customer base to compare brands. (Cool! A new Nikon mirrorless...... But oh wait... I would need to buy new lenses for it... If I have to buy new lenses anyway... maybe I should go look at the Sony mirrorless...)

A key factor is that those traditional dSLR lenses did not play nicely with mirrorless. So going mirrorless would mean a whole new lens system, and if you start a new lens system from scratch, you are inviting your longtime loyal customers to switch brands. The EOS M system initially had terrible AF with all lenses, but even now, I understand it is only decent when using STM lenses.

But the A7rii may be the beacon of light -- If it can really drive traditionally lenses effectively... We need to wait and see... Then On-sensor PDAF can eventually drive all traditional lenses. Which would mean that Canon and/or Nikon could try to copy the technology (within the limitations of patents, etc)... and adopt a mirrorless system that preserves their old mount compatibility. If they can do a mirrorless system with FULL lens compatibility, it would remove their biggest reason for avoiding mirrorless. Of course, if they truly keep total lens compatibility, then the camera will be larger than physically necessary.... So they still need to consider -- Keep mount/large mirrorless... or new mount/more compact system.... or new mount/more compact system/with deeply integrated adapter for traditional lenses.
 




















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