Philadelphia airport question

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Is a 42 minute layover do-able in PHL, when coming from a smaller airport?

I'm looking at flights to Orlando, and there is one that leaves Grand Rapids at 5:30 am and arrives in Orlando at 10:41 am. But the stop is only 42 minutes, and am totally unfamiliar with the Philadelphia airport.

There is another flight at 6:45 am with a 2 hour 38 minute layover in Charlotte. Do you think I should just go for that? It arrives at 1:00, which isn't horrible.
 
42 mins coming from a small airport is dubious. Smaller planes land in Terminal F, which is a shuttle ride or long walk outside from the main terminal A-E. 42 minutes would be enough if you’re in the same terminal, or one close in proximity, if you’re on time. If you’re considering this, check the history of where the flights land.
 
42 mins coming from a small airport is dubious. Smaller planes land in Terminal F, which is a shuttle ride or long walk outside from the main terminal A-E. 42 minutes would be enough if you’re in the same terminal, or one close in proximity, if you’re on time. If you’re considering this, check the history of where the flights land.


Ok, it does say there is a terminal change. So maybe not.
 
Maxiesmom, it depends what the terminal is. If you’re going E to D it’s no problem. Check Flight Aware. What airlines are you flying? In PHL American flies into A, B, C, (Maybe D too) United D, Southwest E with other airlines scattered through these as well. Smaller planes go to F.
 

That may be cutting it close. Obviously 42 minutes doesn't leave much room for a delay on your incoming flight.

PHL has terminals A-F. Terminal F is more of a regional terminal, so if you're coming in on a smaller aircraft you may end up in F needing to get to one of the others. There are shuttle busses that run constantly between A-F and C-F.

From your mention of CLT as the other option, I'm guessing you're looking at American. Looks like most of the flights from GRR are on regional jets (CRJ700/900, ERJ 145/175, etc). That would most likely put you coming into F and needing to get to A,B or C for your flight to MCO.

Personally, I'd take a longer connection time. If you miss your short connection window, there are other flights on AA to MCO. But then you're still looking at getting there mid-afternoon at best, or even later.

Side-note: DW and I got to sprint through PHL last December. Returning home from a trip our flight came into C and we had to get to F with a 1hr25m connection time. Our first leg was delayed over an hour leaving due to weather leaving us with a ~13 minute connection when we landed. We were in the last row of the plane. Deplane, run to the shuttle. Ride the shuttle, run to the gate. They were paging us by name for final boarding as we were 8 gates away. Luckily we only had carry-on bags, as checked bags would not have made it.
 
Is a 42 minute layover do-able in PHL, when coming from a smaller airport?

I'm looking at flights to Orlando, and there is one that leaves Grand Rapids at 5:30 am and arrives in Orlando at 10:41 am. But the stop is only 42 minutes, and am totally unfamiliar with the Philadelphia airport.

There is another flight at 6:45 am with a 2 hour 38 minute layover in Charlotte. Do you think I should just go for that? It arrives at 1:00, which isn't horrible.

It depends on your airline but 42 minutes in Philadelphia should be ok if everything goes right. There is a shuttle from terminal F to B/C as the smaller regional jets for American usually land in F and the larger ones would go out of the main terminals. The rest of them are close enough that you’d have to hustle a little but you should make it. I travel for work frequently and try to avoid connections in Atlanta, Chicago and Charlotte as much as possible due to bad experiences with delays. They can absolutely happen anywhere but especially in the summer months Atlanta and Charlotte are very subject to thunderstorms which cause delays.
 
I do this connection all the time. I fly American & come in on F, take the shuttle over to C with a 40-50 min. layover. I haven't missed it yet, but I travel alone & with one small carryon & can move quickly if need be. The shuttle has been more reliable than in prior years when you had to wait up to 20 min. for it. There is almost always one coming within 5 min. So consider how many are flying with you that might need a bathroom break or cause you to move slowly. There won't be time for a bathroom or snack break, or for a lot of baggage slowing you down. ALSO - if you have any gate checked valet bags on your flight in that you have to wait for - that could take time. Good luck whatever you decide!
 
You can also book that initial flight with one that leaves PHL around 10:40 and lands around 1:30. Or you could book the 42 minute connection and if it's late, possibly get on that next flight.
 
Airline connections are about risk tolerance. Airlines will only sell connections they believe they can make the majority of the time. Since it's the airlines' responsibility to get customers to their destination when there is a misconnect, they try to avoid problems.

Aside from the terminal change issue that other people have discussed, I see three other things to consider.

1. Travel Party: If your group is one or two people who don't have a problem power-walking (if necessary), a 42-minute connection might be okay. However, if your group has younger kids or anyone needing assistance, it's not a smart decision.

2. Time of Day: Generally speaking, the first few flights of the day tend to be a little more reliable than afternoon or evening flights. There's less of a chance of a delay simply because the airplane leaving Grand Rapids in the pre-dawn hours almost certainly arrived the night prior. Personally, I'd rank a 42-minute connection in the early morning a much safer bet than the same connection time in the evening.

3. Schedule: Most importantly, you'll want to think about what might happen if you do miss your connecting flight. A big airline like American will provide plenty of later flights to get you to Orlando. I picked a random day, but it appears the flight schedule matches:

aa-phl-mco-schedule-nonstop.jpg


If you miss your flight, you'll almost certainly get placed on one of the 5 other nonstop flight. The legacy airlines (American, Delta, United) have invested in technology that automatically rebooks people who misconnect. Chances are strong that if you have a delay, all you need to do is check your phone/email/mobile app when you arrive in Philadelphia and you'll have been rebooked.

Note: Technology is not perfect. If you don't like the auto-rebooking, simply go to one of the customer service desks or call America. Also, same-day rebooking generally means larger parties are not seated together. If you absolutely need to sit together or any reason, ignore all of this and book the longer connection.
 
Thanks for all of the info. We ended up booking on Delta, as my sister has points for that airline.
 













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