Perhaps some insight...

[Donna3271]

Hi All,
Sorry if this was posted, but perhaps some insight?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trav...001001/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

[_auroraborealis_]

"To be honest with you, we feel like Disney doesn't want to hurt their reputation, so they're going to do all they can to keep their ships clean,” Denson said. “And we feel very safe about that.”

This really isn't about the cleanliness of ships. Sigh.

 

[BartmanLA]

I think the softening of the No Sail order is meant to placate the cruise lines, since they are pushing back on getting any bail out's from the gov't. The furor over "go ask the flagged country for a bail out" issues came to light when the U.S. Gov't announced the stimulus package last month, so this might be a olive branch to the cruise lines by telling them they "might" get to sail earlier than the CDC originally stated. We'll see, personally until there's some effective treatment or vaccine, resuming cruising is going to be a very difficult "ask" for the general public, and we should expect further cancellations and delays well into the fall/winter season.

 

[DisneyWishes14]

The "softening" was reducing the initial "No Sail" from 120 days to 100 days. They also re-published the order in the Federal Register again today, thereby, re-setting the 100 day clock. It appears the cruise lines have not been able to provide, within the given 7 day timeframe, a suitable plan to comply with the CDC's orders. I honestly don't know how DCL could ever comply with everything the CDC is asking. With only 4 ships, they don't have the capacity to set vessels aside to act as hospital ships. I suppose they could contract other vessels if need be. Managing a cruise line is not exactly in my wheelhouse! These cruise lines have a ton of work on their hands if they are going to comply with these orders. If they don't, the US has effectively shut them down unless the HHS says we are no longer in a public health emergency or the CDC rescinds or modifies the order. Until then, they can just keep republishing the order and pushing the date further and further away.

https://www.federalregister.gov/doc...otice-of-modification-and-extension-and-other
Just editing to add, even without the order, I assume local governments also have authority over whether or not a port is open for commercial, passenger sailing. It is my understanding that San Diego shut their port down completely before the CDC even issued the April 4 order. So, even if this order is rescinded, it may not necessarily mean cruises will be going in and out of US ports.

 

[MomOTwins]

With only 4 ships, they don't have the capacity to set vessels aside to act as hospital ships.

Though at least for this summer, it doesn't look like the Magic or Wonder are going anywhere. Maybe they could be the back-up medical ships for the Dream and Fantasy temporarily.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Though at least for this summer, it doesn't look like the Magic or Wonder are going anywhere. Maybe they could be the back-up medical ships for the Dream and Fantasy temporarily.

If the Wonder were allowed through the PC. Panama nearly denied passage to a shop with COVID passengers, and the Wonder has had issues.

 

[Mom24Princesses]

The other question will be will any port of call allow them to visit?

 

[DisneyWishes14]

If the Wonder were allowed through the PC. Panama nearly denied passage to a shop with COVID passengers, and the Wonder has had issues.

Yup - and that ship, the Zaandam is owned by HAL, which is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Carnival which is incorporated in . . . Panama. So if THEY had trouble getting through, I'm not sure how the Wonder is getting through anytime soon!