People To People/Summer Abroad Programs?

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My son is very interested in spending a few weeks abroad this summer. He received a letter from People To People - has anyone heard of thsi company? Good? Bad? Can you recommend another company that will take good care of him during his travels?
 
My daughter is traveling abroad with People-to-People this summer. We know of atleast three other students who have traveled to Europe with them and they speak very highly of the program.

Good luck!
 
IF you have a LOT of money and your child is interested, go to the meeting. You will get a sense of how you really feel from the meeting.

As for my opinion, it is a glorified tour, not an educational trip. And all of the girls at DD's school would agree that it was a vacation, but they did enjoy it very much.
 
My Daughter is going with ACIS (www.acis.com) -but I think you have to go with a teacher or sponsor as part of the group. I'm not sure.

I saw your books in Borders the other day and I thought about you!
I hope they are selling well!!!!
It must be so cool seeing them on the shelves!
 

Hmmm...I'll definitely have to go to a meeting to get a feel for it, but a vacation in another country is eduxcational, in its own way. That's what we're looking for - not a student exchange deal. Thanks for your input!

I saw your books in Borders the other day and I thought about you!
I hope they are selling well!!!!
It must be so cool seeing them on the shelves!

Awww, thank you! They're selling very well. I've been on the Barnes & Noble bestseller lists for a ridiculous amount of time now. But teh best part isn't even seeing my books in the stores - it's meeting my readers. :love:
 
Awww, thank you! They're selling very well. I've been on the Barnes & Noble bestseller lists for a ridiculous amount of time now. But teh best part isn't even seeing my books in the stores - it's meeting my readers. :love:


What types of books do you write and where can I find them. My sister is a published author and she feels the same way about meeting readers!
 
Hmmm...I'll definitely have to go to a meeting to get a feel for it, but a vacation in another country is eduxcational, in its own way. That's what we're looking for - not a student exchange deal. Thanks for your input!



Awww, thank you! They're selling very well. I've been on the Barnes & Noble bestseller lists for a ridiculous amount of time now. But teh best part isn't even seeing my books in the stores - it's meeting my readers. :love:

What is your book? I am at the bookstore at LEAST 2x a week with my dd13.
 
What types of books do you write and where can I find them. My sister is a published author and she feels the same way about meeting readers!

What is your book? I am at the bookstore at LEAST 2x a week with my dd13.

I write The Chronicles of Vladimir Tod series. If you see a vampire smiley face...that's me. ;)

They're everywhere: Borders, Barnes & Noble, Independents, Target, WalMart....
 
My son really, REALLY wants to go to Japan, but it looks like the only local meeting focuses on Australia. :confused3 Ah well...we'll still go and I know he loves the idea of Australia too (just not as much as Japan).
 
My son really, REALLY wants to go to Japan, but it looks like the only local meeting focuses on Australia. :confused3 Ah well...we'll still go and I know he loves the idea of Australia too (just not as much as Japan).

SOOO funny...MY DD13 really wants to go to Japan as well! I would like for her to go for the entire summer so she really gets to undertand the culture.
Santa is bringing her Rosetta Stone Japanese for Christmas!!

Another reputable abroad proram is the YMCA's ICCP (International Camp Counselor Program). It is a summer work program.

*I'll have to keep an eye out for your books!
 
My friend traveled with People To People and she liked it except for a few rules they have; for example, you have to wear long pants and khakis all the time- just the clothing was what bothered her, nothing big.

If your son is interested in going to japan and other "cool countries" you should check out national geographic student expeditions, I was going to do it last year but didn't get a chance, this year I think I will for sure!
 
Great advice, all! Definitely picking him up Rosetta Stone Japanese!
 
One of my best friends from high school did this in high school and it was one of the best experiences of her life--she is still friends with some of the people from it
 
several children have died while on people to people trips:


Tyler’s family is pursuing legislation for the Traveling Youth's Standards of Safety bill (TY'S S.O.S.) to ensure safety protocols are in place to protect children. The Hills want to share their story about Tyler’s tragedy to help protect other students and raise awareness among parents about the need for safety standards for student ambassador programs and other similar travel programs.

On June 29, 2007, while on a trip to Tokyo, Japan, Tyler Hill passed away at the Japanese Red Cross Medical Center. According to hospital officials, Tyler’s death could have been prevented had he received immediate medical attention. The family filed a lawsuit with the Hennepin County Court in Minnesota on Jan. 28, 2008.


I can't find the other link, but a drunk boy was killed by a train in Australia. These are supposed to be supervised.

Also, they left a boy


The company has been censured several times over misleading practices, such as:

stating students are nominated to attend: a dead child and a 7month old baby were both nominated

high cost: typically runs about 50% more than comparable companies.

stating that president Eisenhauer started the company, when he did not.

Implying that they are non-profit, but the company really is a for profit entity.


http://www.consumeraffairs.com/travel/people_to_people.html
 
I've gone on 2 trips with People to People. One to China, and the other to Western Europe. Both were absolutely incredible. I know it's fairly expensive, and really you could put together a similar trip on your own, however the feeling of independence and being in the world all by yourself is something I would never trade for anything.

Also, P2P has certain elements of their trips that would not be able to arrange on an independent trip. In China we got to tour a few schools and meet the children there, while in Europe we got to speak with several members of Parliament. At the time it didn't really matter, but looking back I realize how improbable it would have ever been otherwise.

If you can afford it, I vote why not. If not, don't pressure yourself and go into debt for it. Also make sure he takes a journal and writes in it each day. My travel diaries are priceless to me now and remind me of details I would have forgotten long ago.
 
exhaustivly investigate any organization before you seriously consider sending your child on travel with them.

i have concerns with some organizations because when i taught i received solicitations to make reccommendations of students where it was totaly left to my discretion as to the criteria, and there were incentives offered to me if i successfully got so many to pay up and travel (as in free travel for myself). i never chose to work with these groups but i knew of teachers who did referrals purely based on who they felt they could get to pay in order to meet their quota for free travel (so some travelers may not be the best traveling companions for your kids).

dd (15) began receiving solicitations from people to people (ptp) begining in preschool. we immediatly knew, despite what the letters said about it being based on an academic referal (:rotfl: at 3 years old) it was from a mailing list purchased by ptp because her name was mispelled in the same unique manner as was done on a magazine subscription a relative purchased. in middle school 2 girls from the private school dd went to were solicited and particpated in a ptp trip, their teacher who was also principal were flabbergasted that the letters said it was based on an academic referral b/c the school had a policy barring any such interaction with these groups. the 2 girls that went also both had lengthy juvinile criminal records that would have seemed to preclude their participation but apparantly ptp had no issue so long as their parent's check cleared.

ptp is local to us-their headquarters are in spokane. i can't speak to what they tell people their staff has in the way of education and training, but they routinely solicit trip chaperones and other staff that work face to face with the kids through the 'unskilled labor' and 'telemarketing' sections of the classifieds (apparantly a trip chaparone only needs a highschool diploma, a clean criminal background and must be able to pass a drug test:sad2:).

a friend (now retired) worked for many years in student international travel. his job was being the person who handled emergencies and urgent situations. he cautions parents that are looking into international (and to some extent national) travel programs for students to QUESTION, QUESTION, QUESTION and then ask for examples of how any organization deals with the 'what if' situations that can and do come up. don't assume that if an organization says they have a plan in place they do, and ask what the plan is (they should have it in writing). ask them if they have staff local to you that speaks the language of the country your child will be traveling to, and if they have 24 hour emergency access for both the student and the parent to the local staff (difficult at best with differences in times around the world if the officials/med providers your child needs to see are only available during that country's 9-5 which ends up being the u.s.'s overnite hours). local staff that speaks the language can facilitate a 3 way call between a parent and a vital person to speak with in another country, absent that you may end up trying to juggle finding interpreters and facilitating conference calls in regions where technology does'nt lend itself to the process. finaly he reccommends that no matter what a group says about the credentials of their staff who will travel with the students-ask to see verification (some will claim education and certification is held by staff but either it's not or it's all in-house done by noone with any particular professional training/education in the subject matter).
 
People to People is a glorified travel agency. They send these letters to pretty much everyone making it seem like an honor. You can't find out the price of the trip until you sign up for it but plan on spending at least $5,000, probably more. I am sure the trips are fun and yes, travel is educational but why give all that extra money to a travel company when you can plan a family trip for not a whole lot more (and often LESS).

DS17's high school Japanese class is going to Japan over spring break. DS wants to go but he will have the opportunity for a study abroad in Japan in college so we opted to do that instead. He also traveled to China with the high school band when he was a freshman and LOVED that trip.
 
My dgd went with PtPlast summer to England and Scotland. She was 13 and loved it! She wasn't real happy about the dress code or that she didn't have enough time to shop, but she had a great time and would like to do it again.
 
my son has traveled with People to People 3 times. He just turned 14. He has gone to Alaska,Australia, and this past summer went to France, Germany, Austria,Switzerland,Vatican City and Italy. I think it is an awesome program. The leaders are all local licensed teachers. It was not cheap but we did a lot of fundraising. He got to have experiences that would not be possible -even if we took him to those same places. It has been very well organized and seemed like all bases were covered. On the trip to Australia they were stuck in L.A. for 24 hours due to weather. PTP called and let us know right away. They arranged for them to be put up at the Hilton and arranged meals,and sightseeing experiences while they were there. My niece traveled to China with them . Awesome programs! I am hoping to send my twin DD's someday soon!
 
my son has traveled with People to People 3 times. He just turned 14. He has gone to Alaska,Australia, and this past summer went to France, Germany, Austria,Switzerland,Vatican City and Italy. I think it is an awesome program. The leaders are all local licensed teachers. It was not cheap but we did a lot of fundraising. He got to have experiences that would not be possible -even if we took him to those same places. It has been very well organized and seemed like all bases were covered. On the trip to Australia they were stuck in L.A. for 24 hours due to weather. PTP called and let us know right away. They arranged for them to be put up at the Hilton and arranged meals,and sightseeing experiences while they were there. My niece traveled to China with them . Awesome programs! I am hoping to send my twin DD's someday soon!

This is the part of the whole program that gets me the most--fundraise from OTHER people so your kid can go on a trip--um, sorry, no WAY would I contribute to something like that. I am glad your kids were able to do that but I would NEVER even be able to ask anyone for money for something like this.
 














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