Pat Roberston stirring up a storm again

[peachgirl]

No need to wish...in 1997, when he made that comment, he had left the White House and was working as a correspondent for ABC News at the time. He was a private citizen, who incidentally, published a book critical of Clinton. There were a few cool years between Bubba and his ol' pal George for sure!!

Is there a record for the number of times someone has been wrong in one thread? Just wondering because Dawn has to be very close to breaking it whatever it is!!

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

Is there a record for the number of times someone has been wrong in one thread? Just wondering because Dawn has to be very close to breaking it whatever it is!!

For the record, Professor Stephanopoulos was working just a few blocks north of my apartment at Columbia University in 1996, so he had actually been away from politics for some time. Still see him at restaurants and on the street around midtown from time to time. Next time I see him, I'll tell him that Dawn says "hi", appreciated the 1997 assassination remark, and has her vote if he ever decides to run for President!

 

[eclectics]

Is there a record for the number of times someone has been wrong in one thread? Just wondering because Dawn has to be very close to breaking it whatever it is!!

Don't yell at me but I actually agreed with her on the Liberal thread although she did appear to misunderstand your post!

 

[DawnCt1]

No need to wish...in 1997, when he made that comment, he had left the White House and was working as a correspondent for ABC News at the time. He was a private citizen, who incidentally, published a book critical of Clinton. There were a few cool years between Bubba and his ol' pal George for sure!!

I am aware of that.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

I am aware of that.

But you said that he was not a private citizen, and was an advisor to a sitting president, as if to say that Clinton had his ear at the time he made the statement and..................nevermind. I mean, I don't know what to say...I'm at a loss. There seems to be an answer for everything. Now whether the answer makes sense with the question asked is another mystery all on it's own.

 

[peachgirl]

I am aware of that.

Stephanopoulous is a tv personality NOW. He was an advisor to a sitting president.

Then why did you say he was a tv personality "NOW"? He was at the time he made the comments and he was not an advisor to the President when he made them.


At any rate, one more time...This isn't about President Clinton, his former advisors or anyone else but Pat Robertson and the fact that some people, including you, believe that it's ok to assassinate foreign leaders who they don't agree with politically.

 

[crazyforgoofy]

Dawn, are you George W. Bush's cosmic twin? Neither of you seem to be able to admit when you've made a mistake.

 

[dcentity2000]

some people, including you, believe that it's ok to assassinate foreign leaders who they don't agree with politically.

I think this whole thread is a wind up. No-one could possibly advocate the assassination of political heads who don't agree with you...

Could they?



Rich::

 

[DawnCt1]

Then why did you say he was a tv personality "NOW"? He was at the time he made the comments and he was not an advisor to the President when he made them.


At any rate, one more time...This isn't about President Clinton, his former advisors or anyone else but Pat Robertson and the fact that some people, including you, believe that it's ok to assassinate foreign leaders who they don't agree with politically.

Robertson is no more influential in Washington than Stephi, or you or me, although there are some who may feel that due to his former role he should have been more "discreet". I have already stated my opinion on this subject Peach. I have also stated that my opinion of Chavez, Castro, Kim Jong Il,et al, extend beyond "disagreement". They would not be missed in this world but again, for the umpteenth time, it should not be a part of our foreign policy. Edited to add, I did see a couple of interviews with former CIA agents who feel that it would be a very good move to eliminate Chavez before he becomes an actual threat. Perhaps you saw the same interview.

 

[peachgirl]

I think this whole thread is a wind up. No-one could possibly advocate the assassination of political heads who don't agree with you...

Could they?



Rich::

Yes, they could. Read Dawn's final post.

 

[Mickey's Monkey]

WHat the hell is there to wonder about? George Stephanpoulous is a tv personality and Pat Robertson is/was the head of the Christian Coalition, runs a religious right empire and seems to be plugged into the WH.

He wasn't a TV personality when he called for the assasination of a foreign leader. That said, I consider Pat Robertson just a much a tv personality as Stephanopoulous. Was Stephanoupolous speaking for the adminstration when he said that? Was that the sort of advice he was giving to the President? More to the point, where was the outrage in the media when he said it? Why does there seem to be a different standard with Robertson's comments?

 

[Mickey's Monkey]

Funny...the pictures you show are either a President who is out of office (Carter, who incedentally spoke in a publically tevevised speech in Cuba about Castro's poor record on human rights, lack of free speech for Cuban citizens, and the need for a democratic society), or an active political official in the middle of a peace process.

The KLA/Albright picture from the 90's is unfortunate, due to the KLA's reported backing by organized crimes, Yugoslav terrorism and other nefarious activities, but I remind you, unless you trust Slobodan Milosevic's word over your Republican Congress of the 90's, we did not fund the KLA at all, we just took out their enemy, Milosevic, in a UN sanctioned move. A man who just happened to be slaughtering his own people, if they were the wrong "type".

The Reagan Administration funded Iraq, supplying Saddam with enough chemical weapons to rain hell down upon Iran. Rumsfeld was there on White House business as a special envoy to President Reagan...big difference!

Wasn't Carter in office when he entertained Arafat? The point is, some get all apoplectic over the Rumsfield photo, but as we all know politics makes strange bedfellows. I mean, afterall, we were allies with Stalin in the 40's. Why was that?

 

[DawnCt1]

Wasn't Carter in office when he entertained Arafat? The point is, some get all apoplectic over the Rumsfield photo, but as we all know politics makes strange bedfellows. I mean, afterall, we were allies with Stalin in the 40's. Why was that?

Speaking of Arafat, Clinton met with Arafat more than any other foreign leader. In fact, he met with Arafat more than he met with his Director of the CIA, George Tenet, who he met with twice.

 

[ThAnswr]

He wasn't a TV personality when he called for the assasination of a foreign leader. That said, I consider Pat Robertson just a much a tv personality as Stephanopoulous. Was Stephanoupolous speaking for the adminstration when he said that? Was that the sort of advice he was giving to the President? More to the point, where was the outrage in the media when he said it? Why does there seem to be a different standard with Robertson's comments?

Give it up. You're just blowing smoke.

I'm going to file the Stephanoupolous smoke screen along with the Cindy Sheehan divorce story under:

Meaningless Red Herring Talking Points Pulled Out of Rightie Back Passage

 

[Mickey's Monkey]

Give it up. You're just blowing smoke.

I'm going to file the Stephanoupolous smoke screen along with the Cindy Sheehan divorce story under:

Meaningless Red Herring Talking Points Pulled Out of Rightie Back Passage

Have no idea what the Sheehan Divorce story is. Nevertheless, both Roberston and Stephanoupolous made idiotic, ill informed comments. The only difference being one was made by a pseudo-religious leader and thus more widely reported for some strange reason.

 

[Mickey's Monkey]

Speaking of Arafat, Clinton met with Arafat more than any other foreign leader. In fact, he met with Arafat more than he met with his Director of the CIA, George Tenet, who he met with twice.

He only met with Tenet twice? Wow! That would seem to appear he even met with Lewinsky more frequently than Tenet. Go figure.

And, was Albright in office when she was toasting Kim Jung Il?

 

[ThAnswr]

Speaking of Arafat, Clinton met with Arafat more than any other foreign leader. In fact, he met with Arafat more than he met with his Director of the CIA, George Tenet, who he met with twice.

Another chapter in the neverending saga: Rightie Red Herring Talking Points.

Clinton met with Arafat because he was trying to negotiate a peace treaty.

Rumsfeld, as Ronald Reagan's representative, met with Saddam Hussein to praise him as an ally of the US, to give him encouragement in his war with Iran, and to give him weapons in that war.

And if you want to talk about "missed meetings", there was at least one meeting Bush should've had with Tenet in Aug 2001 when Bush received a memo "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US".

Next..................

 

[ThAnswr]

I've always believed that when someone is about to fall over the rightie cliff, get the hell out of their way.

Therefore, I'm going to let you and Dawn have the floor.

 

[peachgirl]

The only difference being one was made by a pseudo-religious leader and thus more widely reported for some strange reason.

No, the difference is one was made by a private individual and the other by a nationally known religious leader who has a large following. He delivered the religious right vote to the Republicans...which explains the lukewarm, at best, disclaimer put out by the Bu$h camp.

Another chapter in the neverending saga: Rightie Red Herring Talking Points.

I think I'll add that to my list of cut and pastes as it is so often the appropriate thing to post.

As ThAnswr said, have at it you two. Twist the story all you want, but it is what it is and you're not fooling anyone. As you can see by this thread, not too many of your conservative friends are joining your pretzel party.

 

[binny]

As a Christian and sometimes watcher of the 700 club, even I have to say thats taking it way too far.

ITA he (and people like him, in this instance) are the reason the World often has negative views about Christians.

Talk like this doesnt further anything. It sets us ALL back!