Pat Roberston stirring up a storm again

[Tigger_Magic]

When met with a problem I can't figure out, I always ask myself..."Who would Jesus Assassinate?"

Good one.

 

[Tigger_Magic]

That would be a hope. I do hope that whoever decides to take Chavez out, takes good old Fidel right along with him. We can all feign horrified shock and then celebrate. It wouldn't break my heart. We could attribute it to a "nutty follower". Sounds like a plan to me!

I hope you are not serious or that you are just channeling Rush Limbaugh from his program yesterday.

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RUSH: There is a network today that is obsessed with Pat Robertson. This network has called me no less than three times asking me when I'm going to talk about it so they can record it. This network hasn't cared one whit about any of the outrageous assassination threats that George Bush gets from members of the left. They don't care. It's so patently obvious. I knew they're going to be listening, that's why I keep saying, "The mainstream media does not set the agenda of this show!"

If you want to find out what I think, report what I think, not what you care about what I think on your interest, but if you want to report on this program, actually report what happens here. But don't think you can call here and set up a premise where I'm going to fall into your trap to help you try to condemn the entire conservative movement. The jig's up! It ain't going to happen anymore -- and if I did say something about it, it would just be to tweak them, where they wouldn't understand it and they'd report it and it would be cast as the absolute worst thing in the world that had ever been said. (ahem)

In fact, I'll tell you what it is in this context. I was talking to guys around here, and I was telling everybody, three different inquiries, and they all want to know what I was going to say about Pat Robertson. I said, "You know what it is…?" In fact before this even happened I got an e-mail from friend today who said, "This Robertson stuff is just unfortunate because you know the mainstream press is going to try to link you with it."

I'm not kidding: five minutes after I get his e-mail is when I get the first inquiry about this! So, H.R. down here today and Snerdley in there, and I said, "You know what would be fun to say?"

They said, "Don't say it! Don't say it! Even if you put it in total context, it will be misreported and they won't report your context, and they'll report as though you actually said it."

I said, "Well, I will have actually said it but in the guise of tweaking them." You think I should say it or not? Snerdley thinks (interruption) Now you think I should? Okay. Here's what I was toying with, because I knew -- and it still may happen. Let's see if it happens. Let's see if what I'm about to say to you ends up being reported as, "and Rush Limbaugh weighed in on the Pat Robertson controversy yesterday by saying," blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, let me say at the outset, I am not weighing in on the Pat Robertson controversy. That's not what this is about. I am tweaking the mainstream press, desperately hoping I criticize Robertson so that they can lump me with him and all of us with him to try to discredit the whole of the conservative movement and so what I would say that we were toying around with here:

Well, Pat, why did you not include Castro?

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[Tanuki]

Our government supposedly already backed a coup attempt in Venezuela back in 2002 (if I recall correctly).

The guy we were backing lasted one or two days holed up in the Presidential palace before Chavez was able to mobilize his supporters to bring mobs of peasants in from the countryside (they love him) and his allies that he still had in the army who stormed the palace and forced the guy to surrender.

This coup took place over the course of a weekend so it didn't get a lot of coverage in the news media. You may have missed it.

Unfortunately, in a huge foreign policy blunder, the Bush administration recognized the government of Chavez opponent before the dust had settled on the coup.

Within a day the guy we backed and immediately gave official diplomatic recognition to (who had been in office for a day) was in prison somewhere and Chavez who controls 10% of our oil imports (or 17% depending on the source) was no longer our buddy and was cutting a deal with China and threatening to base his oil price in Euros.

And you wonder why Chavez and Castro are such buddies nowadays.
He hates us - and we gave him a good reason.

So Pat Robertson - who for all the world knows has the President's ear - calling for an assassination attempt on Chavez was an incredibly dumb move

Which will probably cost you at the gas pump if Chavez decides it is the excuse he needs to sell more to China and less to US.

 

[ThAnswr]

I hope you are not serious or that your are just channeling Rush Limbaugh from his program yesterday.

LOL.

Coincidence........I think not.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

As a founder of the Christian Coalition, Mr. Robertson has a bit more leverage than apparently some may think. I understand that not all ministers think this way, but not all ministers run multi-million dollar television production facilities either. I'm glad to see that just about everyone here is shocked by this guys comments.

Anyone see SOD Rumsfeld on the news last night? When asked about Robertson's request, he said, through clenched teeth and in his usually concecending tone (and I'm paraphasing) "Well, he's a private citizen, and private citizens say all kinds of things...but, um..it does happen to be illegal".

 

[Charade]

LOL.

Coincidence........I think not.

 

[Charade]

Pat Robertson Extradited To Venezuela To Face Terrorism Charges

Unconfirmed source report that television evangelist Pat Robertson has been extradited to Venezuela. Venezuelan authorities requested the extradition in the wake of Robertson's suggestion that American agents assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez to stop his country from becoming a "launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism."

Robertson said before he was turned over to Venezuelan police that he stood by his comments and vowed to "fight that dirty little terrorist Chávez with every once of my god given strength." Robertson was placed onboard a Venezuelan Airlines jet and flown to Carcass to stand trial on terrorism charges.

The whole mess started yesterday when Robertson said "We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200-billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with."

"It's a huge hypocrisy to maintain this discourse against terrorism and at the same time, in the heart of the country, there are entirely terrorist statements like those," said Venezuelan Vice President Jose Vicente Rangel. "That is why we are glad that the U.S. has honored our extradition request and delivered Robertson to us. We plan on giving him the best trial money can buy and punishment that will send a messages that in a civilized world terrorist threats by radical clerics of any stripe will not be tolerated."

The U.S. government distanced itself from the comments and vowed to launch an investigation into the "terrorist statements" made by Robertson and other political figures such as Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly. Venezuela is the United States' fourth-largest oil supplier and needs to mollified if the U.S. is to maintain a steady supply.

"It was the right thing to do." Said White House Spokesman Ben Lion. "Mr. Robertson broke the law and we have a rock solid extradition treaty with Venezuela. We wish him luck down there, but really…he should have just kept his damn mouth

 

[Charade]

LOL.

Coincidence........I think not.

Hmmm....

Alec Foege, who wrote The Empire God Built: Inside Pat Robertson's Media Machine, suggested that much of this is little more than Robertson playing to his audience.

"For his die-hard fans, it's sort of all in good fun," said Foege, acknowledging that the Chavez remarks could have serious implications for the Bush administration. "It's along the lines of what Rush Limbaugh does."

 

[Galahad]

OK, I tried to post an image of this but the site changed its image format. Still, if you go to the link it's kind of humorous.

 

[Charade]

Bad link (at least for me it is) What is it supposed to be?

 

[peachgirl]

I hope you are not serious or that you are just channeling Rush Limbaugh from his program yesterday.

Considering her history of wishing death on those she disagrees with, I'd bet this latest one is just as heartfelt as the others.

 

[Tigger_Magic]

Bad link (at least for me it is) What is it supposed to be?

Worked for me. It shows Robertson at his desk with The 700 Club logo in the background. Robertson is writing. A lady interviewing him asks, "Is that your prayer list?" To which Robertson replies, "No... my hit list!"

 

[DawnCt1]

I hope you are not serious or that you are just channeling Rush Limbaugh from his program yesterday.

I must have been "channeling" because I didn't get to hear Rush yesterday. I guess great minds think alike! Would I be upset if some Venezuelan, or someone "disguised as a Venezuelan" took Fidel and Hugo out? Not for a nano second. I would expect that we (our country) would say all of the appropriate things, expressing condolences to the appropriate people, etc....with our fingers crossed firmly behind our backs.

 

[DawnCt1]

Considering her history of wishing death on those she disagrees with, I'd bet this latest one is just as heartfelt as the others.

Yes Peachgirl. I believe I was one who was disappointed that when Fidel went flying off of the stage a few years ago, that it wasn't the end of him. I believe that is where my "death wishing" history began. I haven't had an opportunity to "exercise" it lately but while I am at it, would you be offended if I added Kim Jong Il and maybe a few controlling Mullahs in Iran? BYW, I wouldn't put those thugs under the category of "people Dawn disagrees with". I would put them under the category of abhorant individuals.

 

[bcvillastwo]

First, as a sometimes watcher and long time admirer of Pat Robertson I think he made a big mistake saying what he said. Oh, as an American citizen he is absolutely entitled to say what he wants and he certainly has a forum for doing so, but he probably should have kept his own counsel on this one.

Now, about the part of him being a Christian and what he should have and should not have said, or done. He may be a Christian, but that doesn't mean he is without sin. I'd like someone to point out one God fearing person who doesn't sin. It's part of the human condition folks. We all do and say things that we aren't proud of and Pat Robertson founder of the 700 Club is no exception (and I doubt very much that he would say otherwise).

Earlier someone alluded to "casting the first stone". I believe the point of the Jesus' comments about the woman caught in adultry was just as I said, she was a sinner but when he looked around at those who wanted to stone her, he made a simple but profound point--who amoung them was without sin? If any were without sin then they should throw the first stone.

To conclude, Pat made a stupid mistake and he's paying for it. Who among us hasn't made a stupid mistake before? Anyone for Hypocrites on Toast?

 

[swilphil]

I must have been "channeling" because I didn't get to hear Rush yesterday. I guess great minds think alike!

 

[bcvillastwo]

One more point, most of you people are unbelieveable. I've seen all kinds of statements and actions defended on the Community Board over the years but most of folks have almost no charity in your hearts.

Condemn Pat if you must but you don't need to make him Satan.

 

[cardaway]

To conclude, Pat made a stupid mistake and he's paying for it. Who among us hasn't made a stupid mistake before? Anyone for Hypocrites on Toast?

There is a point when they stop being mistakes and start being more evidence of the pattern.

He doesn't represent all Christians so it's not fair to throw this in all their faces. But bcvillastwo is proof he is more than just another American to a good potion of Christians as well, so I think it's also fair to treat this differently than the usual celebrity call for attention.

 

[sodaseller]

Condemn Pat if you must but you don't need to make him Satan.

No he's not, but with statements like that, that's exactly whose cause he's serving. Those are Satanic sentiments

 

[jrydberg]

To conclude, Pat made a stupid mistake and he's paying for it. Who among us hasn't made a stupid mistake before? Anyone for Hypocrites on Toast?

If I make a mistake and don't admit to it, I deserve a bit of ridicule. Likewise, Pat Roberston deserves some -- unless I missed where he called his statements a mistake?