Parking fees

[BeerMe]

Someone's got their knickers in a twist. Too PC for me.

 

[janabananas]

Monty Python: The Argument Clinic: Director's Cut

Brilliant!! Thanks for posting that. Made my night!

 

[goofyernmost]

THIS.

I seriously was just trying to help someone and everyone on the boards freaks out? Really? Who cares if it's ridiculous to some people. Others who think it is absolutely absurd to pay 14 bucks a day JUST to PARK might want to take advantage of what I mentioned earlier. I never said they are forced to and everyone who visits WDW must do this. Maybe they can even do this on a day where their schedule is not so tight. It doesn't apply to their entire vacay. Seriously guys, CHILL.

I give up.

I think that very little time was spent in criticizing you for making that suggestion. What did happen, mostly because you neglected to tell the OP that a transfer and major amount of time is require to do that, So others, including myself, posted to point out that there are definite drawbacks to doing that...all for a mere $14.00. I agree that if Disney wanted to stop it completely they would come up with a method to do so. They don't charge for parking at DTD because it is a retail area. They want you there to buy things extra. The parks have already taken your money (or most of it). As I stated before I'm sure Disney is pretty certain that very few people will take that much time and energy away from Park touring to do the effort required to park at DTD for free. So even if it is a problem...it is a minor one. They probably think that if someone is willing to do all that extra to save a few bucks, they probably earned it!

I didn't think your suggestion merited such a passionate debate, but I guess that's the Internet for you.

What amuses me is the numerous ways that a simple sentence can be interpreted by different people. It's like the little kid that asked a parent if they can do something and when they didn't reply the kid thought...well, they didn't say no and the only other answer is yes.

I am not surprised that it gets passionate. Many people live by rules. There is nothing wrong with that. They hate to see people stretching the rules because they know that it will eventually end up costing everyone in one form or the other. The constant insistence that there wasn't a sign saying they couldn't is another amusing thing to me. Your bank doesn't have a sign that says "Robbing us is not allowed". Street corners don't have signs that say "Anyone that steps out in front of a fast moving vehicle will be a hurting dude" but we know that we shouldn't do that. In this case, if Disney wanted you to park at DTD and go visit the parks from there...there would be buses running directly to it. They used to have them but enough people started using DTD to bypass parking fees that they stopped the direct bus service. They don't have a rule, in writing, but they have made it a costly venture, in time, to do it. If you are willing to pay that price...they won't stop you. They also won't give you a discount on the ticket because you are going to miss a few hours of possible Park time.

I have spent a lot of time on this thread, but believe me, I will not lose any sleep over others doing this. I will pay the parking fee and save hours of waiting and transportation time. I consider my time of some value and I refuse to waste that time waiting, riding, waiting some more and riding some more. Just not worth it.

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

First time for everything......

last month i took the last bus leaving dtd to my resort, saturday night.
the bus driver requested to see everyone's resort id card before they could get on.
the driver stood by the doors to check everyone.


i'm guessing this was done as there was a very long line waiting for this bus.


yes, everyone on the bus was staying onsite.
no issues there.

I have heard others say WDW use to make their guests staying onsite show their KTTW cards a long time ago when getting on the Buses. However I personally never had that happen to me and I assumed the Bus drivers just stopped doing it because it was to much of a problem when there was a huge line of people waiting to get on.

 

[wbeem]

No problem here........I am most happy to agree to disagree with you.

I do however find it odd that after providing the requested written rule, things are just twisted or silly reqiurements are then asked for!.

The art of debate is to provide facts, common sense and/or logical points to debate....which I have provided and little or none has been forth coming in return.

Anyway..........done here.....thank you for your opinion!

AKK

Oh, please. You didn't debate anyone. You thrust your opinion on others as fact and then went scurrying for any evidence to support your position. Many people gave your very reasonable counter-argument and you just got more emotional with every response.

As I said, you're convinced that you're right and you've whined at everyone who dared suggest that you weren't. It's been quite entertaining to watch because you've done some of the very things that you mentioned in this post to deride others.

At the end of the day, though, it really doesn't matter. If someone wants to park at DTD and take the circuitous bus route to get to a park, they can still do it.

 

[wbeem]

What amuses me is the numerous ways that a simple sentence can be interpreted by different people. It's like the little kid that asked a parent if they can do something and when they didn't reply the kid thought...well, they didn't say no and the only other answer is yes.

I am not surprised that it gets passionate. Many people live by rules. There is nothing wrong with that. They hate to see people stretching the rules because they know that it will eventually end up costing everyone in one form or the other. The constant insistence that there wasn't a sign saying they couldn't is another amusing thing to me. Your bank doesn't have a sign that says "Robbing us is not allowed". Street corners don't have signs that say "Anyone that steps out in front of a fast moving vehicle will be a hurting dude" but we know that we shouldn't do that.

Your examples have a bit of a flaw. There are laws against robbing banks or crossing against traffic. It's documented. That's how you know it's a law. The same is true for rules or policy.

Guests cannot be expected to know unwritten rules, particularly when you consider the large number of international guests who visit WDW. People from different places have different customs, even within the USA. Are they all supposed to just "know" what rules are in place?

Of course not. That's why Disney and other places post signs. If the rule isn't documented and communicated, then it's not a rule.

As you noted, many people live by the rules. Some of those people invent rules in their own mind that don't exist, though. It's OK if they want to follow those invented rules, but don't expect the rest of the world to read be mind readers.

 

[NancyIL]

I have spent a lot of time on this thread, but believe me, I will not lose any sleep over others doing this. I will pay the parking fee and save hours of waiting and transportation time. I consider my time of some value and I refuse to waste that time waiting, riding, waiting some more and riding some more. Just not worth it.

That reminds me of years ago when the buses did run to DD from the theme parks. I was at the Studios and decided to go to the World of Disney store to get my 10% Disney Club discount on Toy Story toys for my niece and nephew. By the time I took the bus to and from DD and shopped, I had wasted several hours - all to save $4! I did that only once!

 

[NancyIL]

Your examples have a bit of a flaw. There are laws against robbing banks or crossing against traffic. It's documented. That's how you know it's a law. The same is true for rules or policy.

Guests cannot be expected to know unwritten rules, particularly when you consider the large number of international guests who visit WDW. People from different places have different customs, even within the USA. Are they all supposed to just "know" what rules are in place?

Of course not. That's why Disney and other places post signs. If the rule isn't documented and communicated, then it's not a rule.

As you noted, many people live by the rules. Some of those people invent rules in their own mind that don't exist, though. It's OK if they want to follow those invented rules, but don't expect the rest of the world to read be mind readers.

Good points! Parking lots are noted for having many signs about places you can and cannot park - even suggesting you will be towed if you're not supposed to park there!

 

[budafam]

If this is so against the rules, why hasn't a mod shut this thread down yet? ... just waiting...

 

[summerlady]

I like to park in the Winn-Dixie parking lot, hitchhike to Sea World, jump on one of the complementary buses from the DTD resorts, walk over to DTD, take the third resort bus I see (don't want to raise any suspicions), take a cab to the Walgreens, jump out at the red light, run to my car down the street at Winn-Dixie, and then drive to the park that I'm going to and park there (I'm a DVC member, free parking, it just always slips my mind until I'm about 4 hours into this).

Seriously people. This one always amazes me. There are so many better things to get spun up about.

We need a new heely thread.

 

[Telcogirl]

I have enough trouble finding parking at DTD when I NEED to shop there,

As someone who just returned from a week in Disney, this is my biggest gripe with the parking at DTD to avoid paying the parking fee at the parks. I don't care if signs are posted or not that say you can or can't do this.

At some point, common sense must prevail. If you are parking there to avoid paying a parking fee somewhere else, you are being extremely inconsiderate to those of us that wish to shop at DTD.

 

[wbeem]

As someone who just returned from a week in Disney, this is my biggest gripe with the parking at DTD to avoid paying the parking fee at the parks. I don't care if signs are posted or not that say you can or can't do this.

At some point, common sense must prevail. If you are parking there to avoid paying a parking fee somewhere else, you are being extremely inconsiderate to those of us that wish to shop at DTD.

In other words, your convenience is paramount. Let's face it, there is plenty of parking space at DTD and the place is a bit of a ghost town these days because it's falling out of favor. Running out of parking places is the LAST problem on DTD's list.

 

[GreenCntryGirl]

In other words, your convenience is paramount. Let's face it, there is plenty of parking space at DTD and the place is a bit of a ghost town these days because it's falling out of favor. Running out of parking places is the LAST problem on DTD's list.

On the flip side, you are suggesting that someone else's convenience is paramount. Someone else being the fictitious person parking at DTD and using WDW transportation to circumvent a parking fee, taking up DTD shoppers' parking spaces for a purpose for which they were not intended, and space on the bus for a person staying at a WDW resort.

Me? I don't care one way or another.

Personally? I don't think Disney "likes" people doing it because they take a financial hit for it. The fact that they don't "like" it doesn't mean that they can conceivably do anything about it short of outright charging at DTD for parking.

 

[torinsmom]

In other words, your convenience is paramount. Let's face it, there is plenty of parking space at DTD and the place is a bit of a ghost town these days because it's falling out of favor. Running out of parking places is the LAST problem on DTD's list.

I have to disagree. Every time I go to DTD, I have to drive around for 15 minutes and wait for someone to leave. It may depend on the time of day you go there. For me, it is typically during our afternoon break and the place is PACKED. Has DTD fallen out of favor since August? That's the last time I was there and had to drive around.

Granted, I can't imagine much of that is because of people parking and taking the bus to resort and/or parks. I think there are just a lot of people visiting DTD, TRex, Planet Hollywood, the theater, DQ etc. in addition to people dining and shopping.

 

[castleri]

This was taken at the DTD marketplace in Sept. 2008. Did not see it there during last trip in Sept 2011. I am in the group that does not think it is worth the time to park at DTD to save $14 but then it has been 14 years since I stayed off site since we bought DVC. I am also in the group that does not appreciate having to stand on a bus because there are a number of people on it who parked at DTD and now need to get back there from a park. This happened quite often when staying at SSR.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Oh, please. You didn't debate anyone. You thrust your opinion on others as fact and then went scurrying for any evidence to support your position. Many people gave your very reasonable counter-argument and you just got more emotional with every response.

As I said, you're convinced that you're right and you've whined at everyone who dared suggest that you weren't. It's been quite entertaining to watch because you've done some of the very things that you mentioned in this post to deride others.

At the end of the day, though, it really doesn't matter. If someone wants to park at DTD and take the circuitous bus route to get to a park, they can still do it.

Well so much for a polite agreement to disagree..............In answer,I may point out,all you just posted was your opinion with no back up.


and the end is doesn't matter at all, becuase if they still park in DTD to get to the parksthey are still breacking the rules.

Seems your the one with the emotional issues here!



AKK

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

This was taken at the DTD marketplace in Sept. 2008. Did not see it there during last trip in Sept 2011. I am in the group that does not think it is worth the time to park at DTD to save $14 but then it has been 14 years since I stayed off site since we bought DVC. I am also in the group that does not appreciate having to stand on a bus because there are a number of people on it who parked at DTD and now need to get back there from a park. This happened quite often when staying at SSR.

Well now........I have no reason to beleive that sign is anything but true!

so I must back up and confirm I was wrong..sorry I wasted everyones time!

AKK

 

[Telcogirl]

In other words, your convenience is paramount. Let's face it, there is plenty of parking space at DTD and the place is a bit of a ghost town these days because it's falling out of favor. Running out of parking places is the LAST problem on DTD's list.

That is right. My vacation, my convenience. Perhaps you are one of those people that ALWAYS puts others before you. Do you always let people cut you in line? Do you always let people go before you in the checkout at the store? Do you always merge for other drivers looking to change lanes? Let's face it, your comment was a tad self righteous.

When exactly is the last time were at DTD? I was there this week. Ghost town? I don't think so. Some of the lots were full by noon. And if those lots are filling up with people that are not even there, then that's simply not right. it's an abuse of the system.

And quite frankly let me add this, if I am staying at Saratoga Springs, in no way should my ability to get a spot on a bus be impacted by someone that wants to park at DTD and use that resort's transportation to the parks.

 

[Telcogirl]

On the flip side, you are suggesting that someone else's convenience is paramount. Someone else being the fictitious person parking at DTD and using WDW transportation to circumvent a parking fee, taking up DTD shoppers' parking spaces for a purpose for which they were not intended, and space on the bus for a person staying at a WDW resort.

Well said!

 

[BeerMe]

WOW! Has THIS thread ever gotten out of hand.