Thanks for the info. My inlaws won't use the plus on the 3 day ph plus. We were thinking of getting them 4 day phs and using their extra day ourselves. For those with 2 or 3 day stays, if you know you are not going to park hop, you can buy single day passes and before you leave the park that day, buy 1 or 2 extra days for $5 off each additional day. The 2nd day pass expires within 4 days and the 3rd day expires within 6 days, I think. We want my inlaws to have the option to park hop with us. Can't wait until October!!