Palin's hacker

Here is an excerpt from the article linked below:

"i am the lurker who did it, and i would like to tell the story," rubico10(at)yahoo.com wrote on the Web site .
The hacker later explained how he reviewed Palin's e-mails one by one: "I read though the emails... ALL OF THEM... before I posted, and what I concluded was anticlimactic, there was nothing there, nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped, all I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor.... And pictures of her family."

http://scrippsnews.com/node/36447
 
do you know that he is a democrat? or are you just assuming so because his father is a democrat??

not that it matters because there are both democratic and republican criminals.....
but you seem to think that this matters , in this instance....

so do you know that he actually is a democrat??
after all mccains daughter just became a republican this year.....

Check out the article on securityfocus.com. It has a link to the chat site that the young man used to post his side of the story. He admitted that his intent was to look for "dirt" (my word) on the governor. He also admits that he didn't find anything at all.
No, he doesn't admit to being a Democrat, that's true. But, in the words of Dan Rather, "If it looks like a duck..."
And if you do read it, can you put aside your political feelings and see if you get the same impression as I did? He writes like he didn't do anything wrong. That it was the whiteknight that was the bad person.
 
He could of been a democrat or he could of been someone looking for some good dirt so he could get the lulz. He just knew about a yahoo email account for Palin so he tried to get into it if people knew the email address for Obama they would try to get into it also.
 
SO glad they know who did it and I hope he's punished to the fullest extent of the law. :thumbsup2
 

Waving from the left,

if he did it then he should get what ever anyone else hacking into a public email account should get which will probably be a lesser charge and community service maybe a slap on the wrist.

Not sure if it's a felony...if he hacked into the govenors state email account then that's a felony and that kid's up your know where without a paddle and should be punished accordingly.

I hadn't actually heard anything about this till now but I've got parents evactuated from Galveston and was at a conference yesterday so I never did get online to check the news or watch tv. Did he find anything good?:lmao:
 
I'm still trying to figure out why a Gov would have a yahoo email anyway. I could understand if this was a secondary email that wasn't used for official business. :confused3 And why would she use such 'easy' answers as her password? She just doesn't seem too bright. No, how easy it is to hack someone’s email doesn't make it less legal but my goodness. You'd think an elected official would use a little common sense.

This is a major gaffe on Palin's part. I feel this is indicative of her security efforts if she was in the 2nd highest office in America.

Would you blame the victim of sexual assault because she dressed to sexily?
 
Yep -- they are talking to the son of a democrat state senator from Tennessee.

My guess it that it will be spun by the dems as a kid who made a mistake.
I hope he get sent to Jail by both states and the feds.... If convicted , of course.

David Kernell has said he was disappointed not to find any dirt on Palin. He thought he was being really "cute" by changing her password to "popcorn".:rolleyes1
 
Here is an excerpt from the article linked below:

"i am the lurker who did it, and i would like to tell the story," rubico10(at)yahoo.com wrote on the Web site .
The hacker later explained how he reviewed Palin's e-mails one by one: "I read though the emails... ALL OF THEM... before I posted, and what I concluded was anticlimactic, there was nothing there, nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped, all I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor.... And pictures of her family."

http://scrippsnews.com/node/36447

Definitely a Republican!!!:rolleyes1
 
Palin gets half the blame in this hacking situation. She (or her staff) should not have allowed this to happen. There are plenty of ways to secure one's EMAIL. Scares me to think what hackers would get at if she become VP. :eek:

Are you serious?
 
I wouldn't say she was "to blame" but she certainly must be damn naive to have left herself so vulnerable. It is like leaving something of value on the seat of your unlocked car. Not taking reasonable precautions is foolish and a woman in her position shouldn't be so ignorant about internet security.

Hackers, on the other hand, should be treated like the scum they are.
 
I'm :confused3 , what silence? I think there was a thread on this and I don't think anyone said it was okay to hack her emails. What more should they be doing? Is someone saying he should go free?

I agree.

WHo ever it is should be punished to the extent that the law allows. Is someone saying any differently?
 
I'm still trying to figure out why a Gov would have a yahoo email anyway. I could understand if this was a secondary email that wasn't used for official business. :confused3 And why would she use such 'easy' answers as her password? She just doesn't seem too bright. No, how easy it is to hack someone’s email doesn't make it less legal but my goodness. You'd think an elected official would use a little common sense.

This is a major gaffe on Palin's part. I feel this is indicative of her security efforts if she was in the 2nd highest office in America.
Because for personal email, and certain public emails, she is required by law to use a non-governmental account.

So it's common sense for an office to not follow the law? Should she perhaps not use her cell phone because that might be hacked? Perhaps we should keep them completely off computers all together. :rolleyes1
 
I wouldn't say she was "to blame" but she certainly must be damn naive to have left herself so vulnerable. It is like leaving something of value on the seat of your unlocked car. Not taking reasonable precautions is foolish and a woman in her position shouldn't be so ignorant about internet security.

Hackers, on the other hand, should be treated like the scum they are.
What other precautions would you have her do? She is required by law to have another email account. Would you only have her use personal letters, notes, etc.? Have her completely off computers, cell phones etc?

Actually her situation isn't like leaving something of value in an unlocked car, it's like someone breaking into your car and then stealing it. She didn't leave the account unprotected, it was hacked.
 
And the silence from the Left, and the media, those champions of privacy rights, is deafening! Where's the ACLU when you need them?

And the silence was deafening from the right on the thread about racially motivated death threats to Obama.

Oh wait, there were a couple responses - said that it was trivial.

15 pages of hacking into an e-mail account, while an inexcusable, terrible invasion of privacy, not life threatening. But no response, no similar outrage that the Secret Service is investigating racially motivated death threats on Obama.

The hypocrisy is deafening.

Can't touch Palin on her kid or her parenting issues
but....
But immediately, It is the son of a democratic party member.
 
What other precautions would you have her do? She is required by law to have another email account. Would you only have her use personal letters, notes, etc.? Have her completely off computers, cell phones etc?

Actually her situation isn't like leaving something of value in an unlocked car, it's like someone breaking into your car and then stealing it. She didn't leave the account unprotected, it was hacked.

No. But she was using Yahoo. It allows for password reset based on lame "security questions" that someone clever could (and did) easily figure out. What is your pet's name? What is your mother's maiden name? The hacker claims that he spent a whopping 45 minutes searching the internet before he was able to find the answers he needed to access her account. I suspect we are all vulnerable to some extent, but she should have the resources to protect herself a little better.
 
Because for personal email, and certain public emails, she is required by law to use a non-governmental account.

So it's common sense for an office to not follow the law? Should she perhaps not use her cell phone because that might be hacked? Perhaps we should keep them completely off computers all together. :rolleyes1


Wow - in my first post I stated that this doesn't make it any less illegal and I'm sure the FBI will deal with the hecker. My focus is on the Gov of Alaska. Even I a 'nobody' has 3 emails. One is a yahoo. But my important business is NOT sent to that account.
 
All of this discussion, and it may not even be a crime according to the Department of Justice.

DOJ View on Email Privacy May Hamper Prosecution of Palin Hackers
Legal Analysis
by Kurt Opsahl



On Wednesday, some hackers apparently obtained unauthorized access to Gov. Sarah Palin's Yahoo! email account by posing as Gov. Palin and getting a new password (Michelle Malkin and Wired News have details). Yesterday we noted that, based on the facts in newspaper reporting, a court would likely consider this a violation of the Stored Communications Act (SCA).

However, the Department of Justice may be hamstrung in any prosecution of this invasion of privacy by its restrictive view of "electronic storage." The SCA prohibits unauthorized "access to a wire or electronic communication while it is in electronic storage." The act defines "electronic storage" as "any temporary, intermediate storage of a wire or electronic communication incidental to the electronic transmission thereof," or in the alternative as "any storage of such communication by an electronic communication service for purposes of backup protection of such communication."

Under Ninth Circuit precedent, both received and unreceived emails are in electronic storage. This is because when the recipient accesses an email but does not delete it, it moves from storage incident to transmission to backup storage under the second part of the SCA's "electronic storage" definition. See Theofel v. Farey-Jones, 359 F.3d 1066, 1075 (9th Cir. 2003)(finding that “obvious purpose” for storing a message on the provider’s server after delivery is to provide a second copy of the message in the event it needs to be downloaded again). Thus, since Gov. Palin and Yahoo! are both in the Ninth Circuit (Alaska and California respectively), it would violate the SCA to obtain unauthorized access to her emails, whether opened or not.

The DOJ, however, strongly disagrees with Theofel. According to its Prosecuting Computer Crimes Manual, the DOJ "continues to question whether Theofel was correctly decided, since little reason exists for treating old email differently than other material a user may choose to store on a network." Rather, the DOJ argues:

If the recipient chooses to retain a copy of the communication on the service provider's system, the retained copy is no longer in "electronic storage" because it is no longer in "temporary, intermediate storage ... incidental to ... electronic transmission," and neither is it a backup of such a communication.

The DOJ's interpretation of the SCA means that any emails that Gov. Palin had already opened (but left on the Yahoo! Mail servers) would not be protected under this email privacy law. This would mean no SCA privacy protection for the majority, if not the entirety, of the Gov. Palin's email messages at issue. As the DOJ acknowledges, "f Theofel's broad interpretation of 'electronic storage' were correct, prosecutions under section 2701 would be substantially less difficult..." On the flip side, if the DOJ were right and Theofel were wrong, any hacker responsible for obtaining access to those emails - or any other individual's opened messages - could not be prosecuted under the SCA.

What happened to Gov. Palin shows why Theofel is good for privacy. As more and more people use Web mail like Yahoo!, Gmail, Hotmail and others, they also will naturally leave opened email on the server. People should not have to sacrifice their privacy protections under the law when they do so.
 


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