Cinderumbrella
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Help refresh my memory for how FP+ was implemented? I beta tested it but then it was 5 years until my next trip.
Yes but you can't modify the CL FP's yourself. It's kind of annoying. You have to call DSS and do it. So yes, they can do it. But they're still working in the system. I don't think Disney IT is so great that it would support two different kinds of FP plans, one paid and one notI would hope so. Provided it's not a massive change to how the system works. They won't support two systems, for example. But if it's tweaking with some add-on costs to do what we already get for free now, I also would hope/expect they will grandfather anyone already booked.
Given people can still get the CLFPs, they need at least to provide 90 days notice. Unless they are going to cancel already booked FPs -- not sure the SW:GE hype could overcome that bad press.
I'd rather they bury the cost in the hotel than have me pay separate. I don't really notice if the price of the hotel goes up, but like with the parking fee that drives me nuts I hate the nickle and diming. If it was all rolled into one then I wouldn't really care.feels like makign it only for certain parks would be an added complexity that isn't really needed. But I could see it being included with Deluxe and then non-deluxe have to pay for it but still get the other perks included (so similar to Universal) and then offsite have to pay and don't get the other perks
BUT then I could see them marketing packages that it includes it ... even at the non-deluxe so that the cost gets buried a bit
Yes but you can't modify the CL FP's yourself. It's kind of annoying. You have to call DSS and do it. So yes, they can do it. But they're still working in the system.
I agree that it works well in MK where there are so many rides ... what if you still had that but then could pay $15 and ride FoP with no wait? One of the rumored thoughts is that the pay feature would only be for top tier attractions
Obviously there are a lot of ways this could be negative but trying to keep positive and think of some potential upsides
Not without a price increase.Maybe they'll add the new Smuggler's Run to the Ultimate Day of Thrills VIP tour? No? Wishful thinking?
Maybe they'll add the new Smuggler's Run to the Ultimate Day of Thrills VIP tour? No? Wishful thinking?
Personally I don’t see Disney not winning that case. Disney puts these things in their terms and is a business that can make changes when it wants.If they implement pay for FP this year, I hope there is a class action attorney paying attention.
I know the MDE TOS covers them, but people do buy their non-refundable tickets, based at least in part on the advertising of the included FP system, prior to agreeing to the TOS! This includes, for example, anyone purchasing the military tickets on base or from SOG.
Plus, this would be such a fundamental change, I'm not so sure that agreeing to the TOS, as currently written, would get Disney off the hook for false advertising.
Imagine if a judge puts an injunction on Disney from implementing pay for FP.....
Nightmare for Disney PR
Dream come true for the class action attorney
Wasn't it linked to being provided Magic Bands as an early adopter? I Beta tested on a trip and remember being SUPER annoyed that after we used our 3 pre-booked fast passes (which we couldn't change ourselves and needed to have someone in the park with an ipad or go to a kiosk to change) we were not allowed to get any paper fast passes. So essentially we were capped at 3 each day and unable to do more. When surveyed I made sure to point that out as the biggest downfall. Next time we went, that cap was eliminated.Help refresh my memory for how FP+ was implemented? I beta tested it but then it was 5 years until my next trip.
I am not sure this will be a nightmare. It ALL depends on how they implement it.
I paid money for that old Park Hopper Express bus .. a convenience that did nothing but save me time for hopping between DHS and MK. Worth EVERY penny. I saved probably 90+ minutes.
By the way, I so wish hopper bus would come back.
I think that's a distinct possibility. I'm not a numbers person, but I've been a WDW regular since the early 90s, so I've seen high crowds, low crowds, no FP, OG FP, FP+, recessions, and economic booms. To me, the most noticeable change after FP+ wasAre we seeing this paid FP idea right now partially because none of the supposed people eaters are actually... eating people?
I can't believe some people say a fp will cost between $25-50 per person. OMG, how many people would pay that amount for 1 ride for their family???
Y'all are not alone. There is absolutely no way I could afford to pay for FPs, ever, even if I wanted to. It's not even a question for me: it's a hard no.The suggestion people would be happy paying $25 a ride for a fastpass, is insane. Imagine a family paying $100 extra for every ride!
If they truly want me to pay for the rides after I paid for admission I would probably become one of "those people" You know the person who goes and people watches, hits the rides with no lines and watches the fireworks and parades. I would hit the headliners on freak days when there is a short wait time.
As for my family Disney will lose money as we choose to leave the bubble for food and begin to stay offsite. (we found a great place recently at a fraction of the price and only 5 minutes outside of Animal Kingdom.) But I am just a speck and it will not impact their bottom line at all. But if all us specks begin to step out of the bubble then..... maybe it will affect the park fiances.
I'd rather they bury the cost in the hotel than have me pay separate. I don't really notice if the price of the hotel goes up, but like with the parking fee that drives me nuts I hate the nickle and diming. If it was all rolled into one then I wouldn't really care.
Where are the terms that say anything about FP prior to purchasing tickets? When I went to purchase my military tickets, before paying, I was given a brochure on FP+ that specifically said "included."Personally I don’t see Disney not winning that case. Disney puts these things in their terms and is a business that can make changes when it wants.
Help refresh my memory for how FP+ was implemented? I beta tested it but then it was 5 years until my next trip.
December 18, 2013 for AKWasn't it linked to being provided Magic Bands as an early adopter? I Beta tested on a trip and remember being SUPER annoyed that after we used our 3 pre-booked fast passes (which we couldn't change ourselves and needed to have someone in the park with an ipad or go to a kiosk to change) we were not allowed to get any paper fast passes. So essentially we were capped at 3 each day and unable to do more. When surveyed I made sure to point that out as the biggest downfall. Next time we went, that cap was eliminated.
I was there Jan 14 for the Marathon weekend.December 18, 2013 for AK
January 14, 21 and 23, 2014 for MK, Epcot, HS
I'm pretty sure those are the official release dates