Owning points at two DVC resorts...

[IslandHap]

If you own points at two different DVC resorts, to you get two eleven month windows at each resort using all your points, or just the points for each individual resort seperatley? (Does that make sense? <IMG SRC="/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif" alt="confused"> )

 

[dianeschlicht]

You have only the points available at that resort at the 11 month window. If you do not want to move. Make the 11 month booking at each resort and try to switch one of them at the 7 month mark. You do not have access to a total of all points from both resorts until the 7 month window. I hope this was clear. It looks confusing to me as I re read it.

Disneydiane

 

[IslandHap]

I guess my question assumes your base month is the same at both DVC resorts. If you stager one by four months, then you could in effect, have all points available for one resort, right??? <IMG SRC="/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif" alt="confused">

[This message was edited by IslandHap on 02-28-01 at 07:55 AM.]

 

[Peggy Sue]

Your use year doesn't impact your 11 month window for reservations. Use year is when your points are deposited into your account, which of course, you must have in order to make a reservation.

We own at OKW and BWV. I can only book at 11 months at OKW with the points I own at OKW. The same is true for BWV. I can use my OKW or BWV points anywhere at the 7 month window.

When purchasing multiple contracts, at the same or multiple resorts, it does help to keep your use year the same just to help out with keeping track of everything. But, there are many members who also have different use years and have no problem keeping track of their points.

We wanted to own at multiple locations to give us the opportunity to book at the 11 month window at both OKW and BWV. As I'm sure you've read here many times on this board it is very import to purchase your DVC membership where you believe you want to spend the majority of your vacations. This is very important if you plan to visit during peak seasons.

Hope this helped!

Have a wonderful day!

 

[IslandHap]

So how do banked and borrowed points figure into the above question/equation? <IMG SRC="/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif" alt="confused">

Would it be best for me to buy 300 points at BCV when they become available, or buy 150 resale OKWV resale now, and 150 BCV then?

 

[Firefighter Mickey]

Banking and borrowing simply give you access to up to as much as 300% of your points (assuming you bank 100% of them and then borrow 100%), it doesn't change the booking window.

Usually, the reason that people own at 2 resorts is because they are planning on staying at both resorts and want the 11 month booking window.

If you are never planning on staying at OKW and always intend to use the OKW points at another DVC resort, then it might not make any sense for you to own points there.

 

[dianeschlicht]

Or are you just trying to find a way in now as opposed to waiting until BCV is available? REmember that the dues are less at OKW and the points needed for a stay there are less as well. As far as the booking and banking. Just remember that the booking takes place at the 11 month mark of when you want to stay. The points used are for the use year of the stay, not related to actual date when you call to make the ressie. The points will be used from the use year your ressie is in, not from when you make your reservation. i.e. March use year (that's when you get new points) assumed, Call in Feb. 2001 to make ressie for Jan. 2002. The points used will be the ones received in March 2001 even though you make the call prior to that date. So you see, use year doesn't really impact that much.

Disneydiane

 

[IslandHap]

Thank you to all who've replied.

Yes Disney Diane, that's exactly what I'm trying to do. I've been bitten by the DVC bug, and don't think I can wait till BCV. (Don't want the bug bite to heal!)

I understand about the "more bang for the buck" of the OKW points.

How about one more angle? What if you use borrowed points at the eleven month reservation, and then switch to using your other resort points instead of the borrowed ones at the seven monnth point? Probably woudln't work, right?

 

[Firefighter Mickey]

Let's suppose I own 100 points at OKW and 100 points at VB.

Assuming I'm new, and haven't banked anything forward, at 11 months I have access to 200 points at both resorts for a stay at that resort.

So, I make a ressie at OKW which uses 200 points. Then, at the 7 month window, I could call MS and switch any or all or my available 200 points at VB to the OKW reservation, thus freeing up the OKW points.

The only problem is, I don't see any advantage with doing that. Now I'm stuck with 200 OKW points, all of which need to be used before the end of the use year, because I cannot unborrow the 100 OKW points; the only think I might still be able to do is bank 100 of the OKW points forward (and that would depend on the banking window).

If you really, really, really want to purchase at the future BCV resort, then you should probably just wait for that resort to start sales. On the other hand, if you've really got the DVC bug, and if you are willing to take a little risk of losing a little money, then purchase a resale now and when BCV opens up, purchase there and sell the resale. The risk of losing money comes from the commission you might have to pay a real estate agent to sell the OKW points - that would largely depend on whether points continue to hold value against new sales, whether you use an agent or do a "for sale by owner" or even whether you consider that the possible loss in the transaction is small or non-existant when compared with the money you saved by using points for accomodations rather than cash over the next few years (that's a mouthful).

 

[TheWho]

I own at BW with 180 points. I want to stay only (generally speaking) at BW and wish I had 50 more points. Of course, BW is sold out and re-sales are higher blocks of points. If I buy 50 points from WVL with the same month as my BW 180 points, can I call BW at the 11 month window and make a ressie with 230 points. Or do I have to call BW at 7 months out to use "both sets of points" together?

thanks,
Dave

 

[Galahad]

Not sure whether this will make it clearer but... In FirefighterMickey’s example, you would not have 200 points available at both resorts at 11 months. Only 100 points could be used at 11 months for either of the resorts individually.

We have points from both OKW and VB. We wanted to book 10 days in April at OKW. We booked 7 days at the 11 month window using our OKW points but were required to call back at 7 months to add the other three days using our VB points. If the points you hold at each resort are too few to book your typical stay there and you have to use points from your other resort to complete your stay, there is really no advantage to having the "11 month" window from multiple resorts. But, if you plan to stay at the resorts interchangeably and you have enough points at each resort for many of your stays at each resort it would be advantageous. Another scenario is owning at two resorts that are both at WDW you could book part of a trip at each resort and move in the middle of your vacation from one to the other thus using the 11 month window at both. Hope it didn’t add more confusion.

 

[mickey7861]

for example:

I own 200 VB points and 200 OKW points.

At the 11 month window I can only use the points to book at their original hotel. 11 month window is HOME RESORT ONLY. 7 month window is for booking elsewhere.

In order to use all the points at one time at OKW I would call at 11 months and book OKW then wait until 7 months and try to add on to that ressie using the VB points.

 

[TheWho]

Unfortunately, I think I get your point. My only hope is to buy a smaller re-sale block of BW points if I want more BW points using the 11 month window. I should have brought more points before BW sold out.

Dave

 

[tiarksd]

With banking and borrowing you could alternate resorts or alternate years with a 11 month and 7 month window.

With 150 pts at BWV and 50 at VWL you could make a reservation of up to 300 pts at BWV one year (11 months out) and bank the 50 (or more if you do not need a full 300 pts). The next year you would only have a 7 month window at BWV because of the VWL points. The third year you would be back to 300 points at BWV 11 months out.

Or you could buy enough points (150 as an example) and alternate resorts each year (300 points each year with an 11 month window each year in the example).

 

[DisneyHumbug]

I think I'm following all this - but could someone clear this up for me? I am supposed to close March 23, but I want to book for my home resort with a check out date of Feb. 22. Can I do that before I close?
I also have the 150 points from 2000, some of which I've used for June of this year, and plan to bank the rest (which I can't do until I close) - so if I can make the ressie Mar. 22, and I can't bank those 2000 points until Mar. 23 they don't get banked at all, do they?
Did I confuse you? After I've typed this I'm even more confused....