OT - visiting Canada, help me

MrsIncredible1974

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Sincere apologies if I am posting in the wrong place but I'm a UK citizen in the very early stages of planning a trip to Canada. I was luck enough to visit for a week last year and now want to share your beautiful, amazing, awe-inspiring country with my OH and children (14 and 12).

My plan is to fly into Pearson Toronto, stay for a couple of days with family in Edmonton then head to Ottawa, then Montreal, then back to Toronto, maybe via Kingston, squeezing in Niagra obviously (driving from Toronto).

So, first of the many questions, how best to travel between locations? Fly, train or drive?

Also, any recommendations for hotel chains? I've stayed in the Fairmont in Ottawa so am obviously ruined forever!

Also, how long do visa's last for? I applied for mine in Aug 16, will it be valid in Aug 18?
 
Sincere apologies if I am posting in the wrong place but I'm a UK citizen in the very early stages of planning a trip to Canada. I was luck enough to visit for a week last year and now want to share your beautiful, amazing, awe-inspiring country with my OH and children (14 and 12).

My plan is to fly into Pearson Toronto, stay for a couple of days with family in Edmonton then head to Ottawa, then Montreal, then back to Toronto, maybe via Kingston, squeezing in Niagra obviously (driving from Toronto).

So, first of the many questions, how best to travel between locations? Fly, train or drive?

Also, any recommendations for hotel chains? I've stayed in the Fairmont in Ottawa so am obviously ruined forever!

Also, how long do visa's last for? I applied for mine in Aug 16, will it be valid in Aug 18?


Hi,

Since Edmonton and Toronto are days apart, I would fly. I have taken the train across the country - The Canadian - three times and it is spectacular but the most breathtaking part is between Edmonton (well really Jasper) and Vancouver. Although I really enjoyed the prairies each time (Some claim boring because flat area - I found it beautiful and peaceful). Could you fit in that part of the train and add on Vancouver instead of another choice? On Tuesdays they have huge discounts on every level of the train that have not been sold out (close to the date). In May, they have a 50% off sale, it's a short sale so keep looking for it. I would choose a sleeper car for the experience. The culinary part of the train is unbelievable in sleeper class. Never had a bad meal. ( For anyone reading they have an accessible suite that is the same as the $7000 - $10000 high end suites and it is hardly any money and a caregiver rides free with doctor's note. )

http://www.viarail.ca/en

But then again I just re-read and there are four of you. That train is not cheap! :goodvibes But once in a lifetime opportunity to travel through the Rockies. There are also private trains in the same area.

I have done Toronto to Montreal many a time because I went to university in the Eastern Townships of Quebec (an area you might want to discover - close to Montreal near the New York/Vermont/New Hampshire border - just gorgeous). I would take the train. Some parts of the drive can be boring, well to me anyway. Going off the 401 to the south - Loyalist Parkway? in Ontario is more interesting (longer drive). I often cross over into the states and go through upstate New York/Lake Placid/across Lake Champlain and Vermont and back up. But I am rambling, smiling, you want a Canadian trip! (Once again, re-read with four of you I might think about driving Ottawa/Montreal so that you can explore areas nearby.)

In Ottawa I would definitely choose a suite hotel. I have stayed in Albert At Bay Suite Hotel. The area where it is situated is not all that interesting, but close to Spark Street and in walking distance back over to the area where you were last time. These are apartments for around the same price as a hotel room, with full kitchens. The outside doesn't look promising there but the interior tells a completely different story - the suites are huge and with nice decor. Comes in handy when you want to eat in.

Another suite hotel, closer to where you were with the Fairmont, is Les Suites. I have not stayed in it but same idea.

Staying in Kingston, I would definitely choose a downtown location.

In Montreal I would definitely choose a place in Old Montreal or very close to it.

In Toronto, airbnb has a lot of options. Tons of private downtown condos. Give that some thought. The Radisson down at the Harbourfront is nice. Cambridge Suites, once again love the suites, is close to a lot of downtown areas. The St. Lawrence Market neighbourhood lovely to explore and right next to it. The tourist areas of Toronto can be cold. The lovely of Toronto is in its neighbourhoods. In Toronto, if you are all open to it I love Korean Barbeque (cook your food at your table). It would be a fun memory for your family. There are a couple but one downtown location is on Queen West (Korean Barbeque House - shopping for your teens on Queen West too. Also, not overly advertised but the aquarium has lower prices later at night.

Try to go to Niagara midweek. Crazy prices on the weekend. I like Embassy Suites but it can be pricey. It is up near the newer casino. There are also some reasonably priced hotels near the older casino/Clifton Hill. One is Country Inn and Suites and the other next door is a privately run - Clifton Victoria Inn at the Falls. The last one I found, well people love it and it is well booked, but my elderly mother did not do well with the air circulation.

Have you considered Niagara-By-The-Lake. It is lovely. Close to Niagara Falls.

Anyway, I am writing a novel. Enjoy your trip.
 
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Sincere apologies, my family are in Brampton, not Edmonton - damn autocorrect!

Niagra by the lake is lovely, I bought new Christmas decorations there last year. Now we have a moose and a beaver and a bear on our tree. And ice-cream - the maple syrup flavour was to die for :-)

Thank you so much. Appreciate your input.

The landscape is so beautiful in Ontario that I feel that we will all benefit from seeing it. I am finding it difficult to describe the sheer scale of Canada to my family :-)
 
The areas you are planning on visiting are relatively close together. Rent a car. When you land in Toronto you are practically in Brampton already. Your relatives will be at most a 30 minute drive. Visit family then drive to Ottawa. If you want to see more than a 4 lane highway think about taking highway 7 to Ottawa from Brampton/Toronto. It's about a 5 hour drive. Otherwise take highway 401.

The Suite hotels are definitely the way to go with a family of 4. Stay in the downtown core close to the market. Lots of wonderful museums to take in as well as the Byward market.

Leaving Ottawa take highway 417 to Montreal unless you want to detour to Mont Tremblant for a day (ski resort with great walking trails in the Laurentian Mountains) It's about a 1:30 drive along the Ottawa river through rural Quebec. Ottawa-Montreal is a 2 hour drive. Mont Tremblant - Montreal is about an hours drive. Stay downtown Montreal. I would suggest doing a walking tour of the main core to get a great introduction to Montreals history. 2017 is the 375th anniversary of Montreal (nothing compared to Europe but its significant here).

From Montreal its about a 3 hour drive to Kingston. Stay downtown and once again I highly recommend the walking tour of Kingston (takes about 2 hours) and gives you stories of it's varied past. Fort Henry is an interesting tour with lots of North American British history.

From Kingston, Toronto is an easy 3 hour drive down highway 401. So much to do in Toronto it all depends on the length of time you have and interests of the children.

Toronto/Brampton to Niagara Falls is a 1:30 drive.

When I travel with my 3 boys we like to stay at Hampton Inns or Holiday Inn Express. Both have swimming pools and include a full hot breakfast with the room. In Montreal if you like a middle of the road hotel chain there is a Best Western near the train station(downtown) which is within walking distance of most major sites. The hotels choices really depend on what your budget will allow. The two noted above are mid range/clean family hotels.

For the walking tours do a google search and check out reviews on trip advisor. (They can change from year to year so I don't want to recommend one and have it not be available)

Hope this gets you started with your plans.
 

In Niagara a fun place to stay with your kids would be Great Wolf Lodge, it's a water park hotel! https://www.greatwolf.com/niagara

If you are planning on coming to Ottawa this summer, I would reserve your hotel soon. With the Canada 150 Celebrations it's supposed to be very busy...
 
Sincere apologies, my family are in Brampton, not Edmonton - damn autocorrect!

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl2::lmao:

The best!

I was like "wow that's quite the trip!". And here they are right beside Pearson, not days across the country. :laughing:

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Glad you enjoyed Niagara-On-The-Lake. :thumbsup2
 
I would drive for sure between these locations. Also I would look into the waterpark outside Ottawa, ON the way to Montreal, called Calypso. Montreal itself has an amusement park La Ronde.
 
It was talking with my cousin about the 150 celebrations that really sparked me to start planning this trip!

Fabulous advice all round thank you. Byward is where the Beaver Tail stand is if I recall correctly?? Yummy.

So definitely car over train or air then. A five hour drive is a huge prospect for us here in the UK. If I drove for 5 hours from my house I'd almost be at Disneyland Paris!!!!

Just been having a good look around various suites hotels and airbnb options :D
 
We did a 6 week UK trip a few years ago. We thought we would drive around like we do in Canada but quickly switched to trains and RyanAir!

Driving is much different here. The highways are dedicated (no stopping) with a 100km speed limit and are well organized and labelled so fairly easy to navigate. Each exit is marked with what services are there (gas, restaurants, etc.) so you can get off and get what you need on the way.
 
Yes the Beavertail stand is in Byward Market. It's a neat area and you can walk to a lot of the main attractions in downtown Ottawa.

In Montreal at LaRonde they usually have the international fireworks competition there - not sure of dates but look it up. We went to LaRonde but it wasn't really my thing - sure isn't Disney...lol. But the fireworks were great. Old Montreal is beautiful. Lots of buskers on the streets. Lots of neat restaurants and shops.

Agree with others - book soon. There are lots of celebrations going on and things are already getting booked up for certain time periods this summer due to the 150th birthday celebrations.
 
I absolutely agree about the driving. I missed that there would be four of you travelling on the first read. It would allow you so many excursions on the drive and spur of the moments decisions. :thumbsup2

Can I ask how long you are staying and what time of year. I am asking because although Ontario is my province and all of these places I have visited a myriad of times.And enjoyed. But out east, Atlantic Canada, is just unbelievably gorgeous.

However, I'm unsure how long you are planning and obviously it is not the best to be over-scheduled. There is an overnight VIA train from Montreal to Halifax. For a different form of travel and experience.

Also might also consider a stay/drive up to Muskoka. It is our cottage country in Ontario.
 
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I absolutely agree about the driving. I missed that there would be four of you travelling on the first read. It would allow you so many excursions on the drive and spur of the moments decisions. :thumbsup2

Can I ask how long you are staying and what time of year. I am asking because although Ontario is my province and all of these places I have visited a myriad of times.And enjoyed. But out east, Atlantic Canada, is just unbelievably gorgeous.

However, I'm unsure how long you are planning and obviously it is not the best to be over-scheduled. There is an overnight VIA train from Montreal to Halifax. For a different form of travel and experience.

Also might also consider a stay/drive up to Muskoka. It is our cottage country in Ontario.


Thank you, I truly appreciate your help.

We're tied to school holidays (Mr Incredible is a teacher) so we can travel anytime between mid July and end August but need to be home for the first week in September. We're looking at 2 weeks and to start and finish in Toronto. Probably Summer 2018 as we are visiting WDW in August 2017. Ideally I also need to be in Canada when Tim Horton starts selling the spiced pumpkin muffins :cake: I would also like a selfie with Justin (hopefully not construed as a political comment and yes, I am joking. Although how fab would it be to get a Fast Pass to do this...!).

It'll be the only time my girls are likely to meet my elderly house-bound Aunt who is in Brampton although they have met my cousin who is based there a handful of times already.

I've spend the sum total of one week in Ontario but thanks to amazing planning by my cousin I have been to Niagra, Niagra on the Lake, Ottawa (River Cruise on the Rideau, Parliament building, hop on hop off tour, Byward market), Kingston, 1000 Islands Cruise, Toronto (hop on hop off, up CN tower) and seen the RCMP show - I came home exhausted!!! Basically I have fallen completely for your country and am hoping that if the rest of the family do too this trip will be the first of many :)

I want to see as much as possible but am anxious that the girls don't feel that they have spent two weeks of trains, planes and automobiles. So a balance of travel and sight-seeing but at a more relaxed pace so we don't get home as shattered as we do after 2 weeks in WDW in the August humidity!
 
:lmao:

Disney has killed fireworks for us all. :rotfl:

NYE NYC from Central Park is the only one that has met the Disney spectacular so far.
Actually the fireworks were fantastic...It was the park that didn't do anything for me. Super long waits unless you paid extra for that front of line pass. Just so carnival-ish. Kwim?
 
I want to see as much as possible but am anxious that the girls don't feel that they have spent two weeks of trains, planes and automobiles. So a balance of travel and sight-seeing but at a more relaxed pace so we don't get home as shattered as we do after 2 weeks in WDW in the August humidity!

Smart. Especially the bold. :goodvibes
 
Actually the fireworks were fantastic...It was the park that didn't do anything for me. Super long waits unless you paid extra for that front of line pass. Just so carnival-ish. Kwim?

Got it. Read too quickly.

We used to have an international competition at Ontario Place. Really miss it.
 














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