Oreo's Law - Dog Lovers Please Read

[bunkkinsmom]

I'm in G'boro too!! We need to arrange a DIS Meet! know 2 other North Carolinians who would love a Dis Meet!

Chell, thank you for posting the link - I support several rescues and wholeheartedly believe every furbaby deserves a chance and those who harm them belong in jail - including those who run puppy mills, some of the most unimaginable horrific abuse.

That would be fantastic!!! Everyone I know thinks I'm obsessed, so I am all for some friendly fanatical Dis conversation!

 

[Minnie&Nana]

That would be fantastic!!! Everyone I know thinks I'm obsessed, so I am all for some friendly fanatical Dis conversation!

One of us could start a Meet thread! But not me...lol...chell or you!

 

[Eeyores Butterfly]

I can see the ASPCA's stance on this one. If the dog was truly deemed aggressive and could not be rehabilitated, it is a huge risk and liability to them to turn that dog over and not destroy it. Don't get me wrong. I am an animal lover. Both of my dogs are from a shelter and I strongly suspect one was abused (very handshy, takes a long time to warm up to strangers, etc.). I love my Eragon so much, all my pets are like my children. But if he had been deemed to aggressive, I would rather him have been put down than hurt a child.

Maybe it's because I've dealt with too many aggressive dogs in the past in the neighborhood I grew up in. There was no leash law so people just let their dogs roam. We have had several dog attacks, including one that attacked our family dog while he was being walked on a leash. That same dog had cornered numerous people and 911 had been called more than once. I don't know that background on those dogs, but I would hate to think that one of these dogs could turn out like that. It's such a big risk. It's great if a dog can be rehabilitated, but if they have tried and been unsusccessful, it is time to move on.

 

[landshark]

If somebody else is willing to at least try to rehabilitate an animal like that, they should be able to. As long as the group asking to have the animal has a reputation for being responsible, I see no problem with it--every animal should get a chance to live.

Even then, being that they are still animals, they are always capable of doing something that might be considered "aggressive"--abused or not. Nobody can ever guarantee that they won't ever do something somewhere down the road and I don't think they should be condemned for it.

It's one thing if an animal attacks someone (especially if it has a track record for doing so), but other things I think are just bound to happen regardless of how they were treated. Animals aren't as domesticated/perfect as we like to think they are and, if you're going to own one, you need to respect it and it's space and teach your kids to do the same. Pulling tails and ears and sticking hands in dishes when an animal's eating is just asking for trouble.

 

[Planogirl]

I marvel at this and like the approach of at least trying to rehabilitate these animals. However our shelters sadly put down animals that don't even have issues, how difficult would it be to find homes for all of these rehabilitated dogs? I'm not saying that it shouldn't be done but my concern is the number of homeless pets already out there. If people knew that these animals had aggression issues in the past wouldn't that just compound the difficulty of adopting them out?

 

[chell]

One of us could start a Meet thread! But not me...lol...chell or you!

We do need a meet!

 

[bunkkinsmom]

Ok Chell, I nominate you to start the "Central NC Dis Meet Thread".

U Up for it?

 

[Minnie&Nana]

Ok Chell, I nominate you to start the "Central NC Dis Meet Thread".

U Up for it?

Hmmm... lucky you and Chell both have trips coming up real soon..so maybe let's wait until everyone is home?

Fear we are hijacking Oreo's thread....shall we move this discussion to pm's?

 

[Disneycrazy!!]

if the dog is dangerous it needs to be put down.........

i am putting our family pet down tomorrow for this reason...we raised him from a pup and he is 7 yrs old and my heart is breaking, i'm crying as i write this....

 

[snarlingcoyote]

I marvel at this and like the approach of at least trying to rehabilitate these animals. However our shelters sadly put down animals that don't even have issues, how difficult would it be to find homes for all of these rehabilitated dogs? I'm not saying that it shouldn't be done but my concern is the number of homeless pets already out there. If people knew that these animals had aggression issues in the past wouldn't that just compound the difficulty of adopting them out?

See my post above. Yes, it is possible to give every animal in an area a good home.

For cats it's pretty simple. TNR. Trap Neuter/Spay Release ALL the feral cat colonies. The vast majority of kittens born are to feral mommies. Dry up that source of kittens and the supply/demand is pretty even.

For dogs, it means drying up the profits for backyard breeders and pet stores. Essentially, the shelters have to get out there and adopt dogs in the same places and with the same ease of adoption of a pet store. Make it so that people find it easier to go to the shelter to adopt a dog than to go to the pet store/backyard breeder. Put those guys out of business by direct competition. Spay and Neuter every dog you can through low/no cost clinics - you're more likely to get people to spay and neuter if it doesn't cost as much AND it's convenient to them.

Try Redemption by Nathan Winograd. It's the bible of the no-kill movement.

 

[chell]

See my post above. Yes, it is possible to give every animal in an area a good home.

For cats it's pretty simple. TNR. Trap Neuter/Spay Release ALL the feral cat colonies. The vast majority of kittens born are to feral mommies. Dry up that source of kittens and the supply/demand is pretty even.

For dogs, it means drying up the profits for backyard breeders and pet stores. Essentially, the shelters have to get out there and adopt dogs in the same places and with the same ease of adoption of a pet store. Make it so that people find it easier to go to the shelter to adopt a dog than to go to the pet store/backyard breeder. Put those guys out of business by direct competition. Spay and Neuter every dog you can through low/no cost clinics - you're more likely to get people to spay and neuter if it doesn't cost as much AND it's convenient to them.

Try Redemption by Nathan Winograd. It's the bible of the no-kill movement.

Thank you for understanding. Good ideas.

 

[chell]

Ok Chell, I nominate you to start the "Central NC Dis Meet Thread".

U Up for it?

Hmmm... lucky you and Chell both have trips coming up real soon..so maybe let's wait until everyone is home?

Fear we are hijacking Oreo's thread....shall we move this discussion to pm's?

Feel free to hijack!

Do we still have the Dis Meets board? I'll have to look. But I may get sidetracked...

 

[simba928]

Maybe it's because I've dealt with too many aggressive dogs in the past in the neighborhood I grew up in. There was no leash law so people just let their dogs roam. We have had several dog attacks, including one that attacked our family dog while he was being walked on a leash. That same dog had cornered numerous people and 911 had been called more than once. I don't know that background on those dogs, but I would hate to think that one of these dogs could turn out like that. It's such a big risk. It's great if a dog can be rehabilitated, but if they have tried and been unsusccessful, it is time to move on.

That is purely the fault of the people, not the animal. People should have been more responsible with their dogs. Mine are ALWAYS under my control. IF these dogs were dangerous, there should have been steps taken to ensure that these dogs would not have harmed anybody. Unfortunately, there's such a stigma associated with pits and other dogs are given multiple chances. I've heard of dogs that repeatedly attacked people, but nothing was ever done because they weren't pits. However, the second a pit attacks, it's all over the news that there was a "vicious" dog attack on a "completely innocent" person, and the dog is euthanized.

When I was in high school we rescued a Pit before anyone really even knew what they were. She was the best dog, very lovable, well trained, obedient right up to the time when out of the blue she tried to attack my step-mom. Fortunately my step-mom was able to get herself into another room and shut the door but she had to call the police who had to shoot the dog. Sorry, they are DOGS, you can't reason with them nor can you counsel them about their past abuse. You never know what might set them off, especially with little kids that might not always be the most gentle with dogs.

Actually, pits are awesome dogs with kids. They're one of the best breeds for families, ranked much higher than goldens, labs, beagles, and all of those other typical "family dogs". They have an extremely high pain tolerance, which means that they don't mind little kids crawling on them and pulling on their ears and all that and they are very loyal dogs. Any little kid should be supervised with any dog, obviously. I just would be more afraid of a small dog (yorkie, shih tzu, lhasa apso) going after a little kid than a pit. Small dogs don't have the patience for kids. I've worked with a lot of dogs, some friendly and some not so friendly (and A LOT of pits...about 30% of dogs in shelters are pits) and the only dogs that have ever snapped at me was a boston terrier and a terrier/chihuahua mix.