opinions please? Buying a house

MrsCobraBubbles

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Edit: and now the house is gone! Figures, the same day i make a post asking for help. But you all helped me think things through and I truly appreciate it, thank you!!! My realtor called to tell me there are 3 offers on the cheaper house. I'm taking it as fate, it wasn't supposed to be mine. I dont have enough buying power for a bidding war.

I don't think I feel as bad about not getting the house as I would have if you all hadn't been so sensible about it, thank you! You all helped me realize that it's going to be ok for a wide variety of reasons and there will always be more houses out there. The realtor and I had a discussion about the other house, she feels they are asking too much and I may put in an offer below asking. I'm taking a couple days to think. Weirdly, now that it's not a race between the 2 houses I feel less stress and pressure toward making the decision. I don't want to walk into home ownership feeling anxious and stressed.

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I'm trying to decide between 2 houses and I like both for very different reasons.

The first house is at the very top of what I want to pay monthly, and it is a very large, very nice house. Of course this is the one my kids love but it's excessive--there's only the 3 of us and there's 4 bedrooms with an apartment downstairs! My son wants the apartment and my daughter called dibs on the bedroom that has a beautiful balcony. I'm tempted by this house too, it really is very nice but I am also a frugal person and it bothers me that our mortgage would be so high (1/3 of my current income). Also, I'm 40 so the idea of taking on a 30 year mortgage for so much money all by myself (I'm single/no child support so it's all up to me) is daunting. It's a large house on a suburban lot (like 10,000 square feet so not much yard to maintain) in a decent neighborhood with a really good school district. My youngest is my only kid in school, she is entering junior high next year. This first house has a septic system that may need updated at some point but the mortgage payment doesn't give me a ton of wiggle room in my budget so it would take me a while to save up for that but is move-in ready.

The second house costs about half what the first house costs, which means the mortgage is about half monthly and it gives me wiggle room to budget more fun stuff like vacations and the mortgage is less than I'm paying now for rent on our 3 bedroom townhouse! It's small though, only 2 bedrooms upstairs with a bonus room on the first floor that I plan to turn into my bedroom/home office (I work from home) if we end up moving there, but there's only one bathroom as well and my spoiled children kind of turned their noses up at that, and there's no room to add a bathroom. The kitchen is tiny and has no dishwasher which kind of breaks my heart but my frugal side loves the monthly mortgage payment on this house and with the difference in price between this house and the other, with my first month's mortgage I'd be able to purchase a new dishwasher and cover hiring a plumber to take out a cabinet in the kitchen and put in a dishwasher. My kids are older so it's a great size house for just me after my kids leave. But my son is on the autism spectrum and still lives with me even though he is an adult, and will probably continue to live with me for an indeterminate amount of time so I have to factor that into my decision. 2nd house is in a more rural area on 2 acres of land so there's more yard maintenance there, and the school district isn't as good as house 1; the schools aren't terrible but it's just a large, consolidated rural school district without as many resources as the more affluent school district for house #1 and my daughter has special education needs so I need to consider that as well.


I don't expect anyone to make this decision for me but any input is appreciated as I'm sure it will help me think things through! I'm also on a time crunch for this decision because at any time someone could put in an offer on either house and then my choice gets taken away so I'm feeling the pressure and that makes me nervous that I will end up making a bad decision out of fear of losing out on either house. These 2 houses are polar opposites and I am having trouble with this decision and I want to make sure I'm considering this from every angle. Help please!



* I'm going to edit to add that I think the larger, more expensive house is going to hold it's resale value much better than the smaller, rural house so that's something I've been considering too because who knows if I'll even want to be a homeowner 10 or 15 years down the line once both kids are grown?

The other thing is, I'm looking for something soon because my lease is up at the end of March and I don't want to sign again, but also don't want to go to the expense and trouble of moving into another apartment and then moving again once I find a house, moving is expensive and I'm not as young and able-bodied as I used to be!
 
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I feel like to some extent you've answered your own question from what you've already written - the more economical/smaller house (just my opinion FWIW). No need to be house poor, plus too much space with the first house. Schools and land definitely factor in, but perhaps you can budget in the yard maintenance (even if for the future) if/when you can't manage it on your own. Schools, well, that is a hard one, but doesn't last forever.

Good luck!
 
Are there no houses "in between?"

I could not ever live in a 1 bathroom home and have to share that one bathroom with 2 other people. Absolutely not. But the other house sounds like "too much house."

I'd keep renting and keep looking, personally. Something more appropriate will come up. This is a terrible time to buy a house. Inventory is always very low in January. Wait until late spring, summer. Look again then.
 

Are there no houses "in between?"

I could not ever live in a 1 bathroom home and have to share that one bathroom with 2 other people. Absolutely not. But the other house sounds like "too much house."

I'd keep renting and keep looking, personally. Something more appropriate will come up. This is a terrible time to buy a house. Inventory is always very low in January. Wait until late spring, summer. Look again then.
That was my thought. I would keep looking!
 
Are there no houses "in between?"

I could not ever live in a 1 bathroom home and have to share that one bathroom with 2 other people. Absolutely not. But the other house sounds like "too much house."

I'd keep renting and keep looking, personally. Something more appropriate will come up. This is a terrible time to buy a house. Inventory is always very low in January. Wait until late spring, summer. Look again then.
Nothing in between, nothing new on the market in the last 2 weeks, and before that I lost out on a couple of in between houses because they get snapped up so fast in this market!
 
I would keep looking, no way would I buy a house with one bathroom and no way would I buy a house with a mortgage more than 25% of my take home pay.

The mortgage payment as a percentage of your take home income is really a variable thing, comfort wise, depending on your income and your other monthly obligations. I mean, right now our rent is 30% of our take home pay, but it still leaves us enough to put aside 25% of our take home into savings, because we have no other monthly obligations (no loans, no car payments, no credit card balances, etc). I would be fully comfortable with a house payment close to 50% of our take home pay, because a large percentage of our income is from guaranteed stream.

It really all depends on so many factors.
 
Could you get the first house and rent the apartment for some income towards the mortgage? Your son does need the apartment right now, maybe in the future.
I think I'd have to get a different type of mortgage for that. If I bought that house the apartment would go to my son
 
Without question smaller and I'd figure out how to make it work. If it is just you then you need to be able to absorb everyone for all possible future issues, plus you need to be able to save for retirement & can't do that if the house is a strain. The picture you painted doesn't make you look frugal at all, you are being realistic because you have no safety net and you may be your kids only safety net - you are being smart.
 
I think I'd have to get a different type of mortgage for that. If I bought that house the apartment would go to my son
Will your son be paying you rent? Is he able to handle all the yard work?


Being house poor is no fun. In addition to the obvious costs with mortgage how much will your heat/AC/electric/gas bill be in the big house? How much will water cost? How much are the taxes and will they be going up annually? What is the difference in home insurance?

I would buy the house that is good for you for the long haul. It seems like the smaller home meets YOUR needs and leaves you extra money to do some upgrades, and like you say travel etc. Are you prepared to be stressed over costs and spending all your money just to have a bigger, higher maintenance house?

This is far off but with 2 acres and more rural (likely less zoning issues) would there be an option down the road for your son to have a tiny home on the property? Gives you both privacy and him independence.
 
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With your daughter out in a couple years, I would keep renting. Then buy something suitable for you and your son when the plans become clear.

Last thing I would do is lock into a giant house right now.

My top consideration right now would absolutely be the school district. I'd rent in that district a couple years, then buy elsewhere.
 
I don’t know what your current set up is or how large the bonus space is, but I think having to sleep and work in the same area would get old very quickly. A friend who did this was never able to separate work from personal time and it took a toll on them.
I've been doing it for over a year now in my current bedroom which is about the size of a walk in closet so I know I can do it. Lol, my current setup is basically wall to wall bed with a small corner desk and a computer chair I can't even fully pull out to sit so trust me this bonus room will be an upgrade!! 🤣 I understand what you mean though
 
To me, it doesn't look like either house is acceptable.

I would stay wherever I am and keep looking.

You say there were other 'in between' houses but you just weren't quick enough?

That means they ARE out there.

I don't know where you are but I think demand is going to loosen up a little.

Choices being something you aren't comfortable affording and something that functionally does not work for you, is not really a choice.
 
I would keep looking. Around here the market is starting to soften a bit-- not a lot but some.

We have an acre lot and it's a lot to keep up with 2 of us. I couldn't imagine trying to keep up 2 acres. Only 1 bathroom is a concern with this house as well.

The larger house will be a stretch financially plus will be way too much house when your daughter moves out.
 


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