Okay, some things are not made for tv

[Jennasis]

And the reason its needed to be aired again is? Thats right there isn't one, and the warning doesn't make it right.

ETA I'm not directing my disgust at you, I know you were just letting us know.

No there is a reason. It was the 9 o'clock hour on the Today Show and they always repeat their top stories at 9am so that people waking up and tuning in later can get all the same info as the early risers.

 

[luvmy3]

Maybe it was during a luge event and the referenced how dangerous the sport is, showed the video. They may have also referenced other horrifying accidents in luge history. Or it could have been talking about the opening ceremonies, training or another accident in a different sport.

Again, no issues with it from me.

You can do all those things without re-airing this mans death.

 

[jlewisinsyr]

Seriously? You can get every angle of a story on the internet. You can log into middle eastern web sites to get their view of our "war on terror". You can fact check liberal articles against conservative ones. In short, you can find the truth on the internet. It requires work, but the data is there. You cannot do that with main stream media.

You may find altering opinions, but they are still, just opinions. I also completely think your political motivated comment is stereotypical and predictable, because trust me, opinions go both ways.

 

[jlewisinsyr]

You can do all those things without re-airing this mans death.

A picture says a 1,000 words.

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

You may find altering opinions, but they are still, just opinions. I also completely think your political motivated comment is stereotypical and predictable, because trust me, opinions go both ways.

The search for the truth unearths more than you would believe.

My comment was not meant to be political. Not sure where you get that from. I am neither a Republicrat nor a Demopublican. Both parties are self interested. I am just a man going through life, doing the best that he can...

 

[jlewisinsyr]

The search for the truth unearths more than you would believe.

My comment was not meant to be political. Not sure where you get that from. I am neither a Republicrat nor a Demopublican. Both parties are self interested. I am just a man going through life, doing the best that he can...

Search all you want, and yes, I'm sure you'll find differing opinions, but you'll still be left the same question, what is the real truth.

You can fact check liberal articles against conservative ones.

This is what I referenced, you cannot tell me there is not a political undertone.

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

A picture says a 1,000 words.

I remember the day that I stopped watching the news. It was about 3 days after 9/11. I worked on the 97th floor of the WTC in the tower struck first. Some of those people that the news kept showing over and over, jumping to their deaths to avoid the flames within the buildings, had to be friends. We lost 295 friends and co-workers that day. Watching the media replay that over and over made me sick - physically ill.

To you, this is just news. To the families and friends of the victim, it is their life. I wouldn't want to ban this kind of broadcasting, but I choose not to watch...

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

Search all you want, and yes, I'm sure you'll find differing opinions, but you'll still be left the same question, what is the real truth.

True, but you will be closer than Faux News or MSNBC could get you.

This is what I referenced, you cannot tell me there is not a political undertone.

I took jabs at both sides, as I believe that both sides inject spin into main stream media every day. I don't take sides in politics. Both sides are equally right and wrong to me...

 

[jlewisinsyr]

I remember the day that I stopped watching the news. It was about 3 days after 9/11. I worked on the 97th floor of the WTC in the tower struck first. Some of those people that the news kept showing over and over, jumping to their deaths to avoid the flames within the buildings, had to be friends. We lost 295 friends and co-workers that day. Watching the media replay that over and over made me sick - physically ill.

I saw my friend get killed by a drunk driver, it was all over the news, images of her, pictures of the accident for days. It didn't bother me though, because it was a fact of life. Sure it was emotional, but it also reminds us we are human, we are not invincible. If it opens one persons eyes to the risk or in good news, reward, then it has done all it can.

I've seen some horrific videos on TV and online, I'll never get the images out of my head, but nor do I want to. Its not because I like to see these thing, but it makes life all more real. I don't want to pretend I live in a bubble of all but good things.

 

[mhsjax]

Sorry, your logic is flawed, and this isn't about knowing the risks of a sport, its about the moral aspect of showing a young mans horrible death over and over. There is a huge difference between filming something live and then a horrible accident occurs and filming an accident that results in the death of the person and re-air it over and over again. Its in very poor taste.

I don't think my logic is flawed, but that is my opinion. This isn't anything new , doesn't anyone remember the Wide World of Sports every Saturday, during the opening, The Agony of Defeat, that got shown everyday, it was pretty graphic. What about race car drivers, that gets shown over and over again.

 

[-Hope-]

I think its important to point out that they are NOT showing this man's death. They are showing the accident which led to his death. He died in the trauma center he was taken to following the accident. For some that may not matter but many people seem to hung up on the idea that they are showing an actual death- they are not.

And I agree with a pp that they need to show that these sports are becoming more dangerous. The Olympic committee anounced this morning that it wasn't a flaw in the track but human error which caused this accident. However, every person knowlegable in the sport who has been interviewed has stated that the possibility of human error is increased due to the intesity OF THE TRACK. If people want to be outraged they should be outraged that the Olympic committee is more concerned with staying on schedule than with keeping athletes safe. People need to know the horrific things that happen in this world in order to make changes for the better.

FWIW I have experienced a media frenzy following the death of loved ones. I didn't like it but I understood it. Feeling uncomfortable with an image is not the same thing as having a moral objection to that image. Pulitzers have been awarded to people who have photographed much worse in covering war, the holocaust, terrorist attacks, natural disasters and more. The reason the Pulitzer committee honor these photographs is because they show us the TRUTH. Every one of us have likely seen images of President Kennedy's assasination, of the firefighter carrying the little girl out of the rubble in Oklahoma City and of many other things. Often times these images can seem gratutitous but in the end I think they are necessary. The truth is sometimes ugly.

 

[mhsjax]

Oh, yes they certainly did, they showed many images of people jumping out of the buildings from 40 or 50 stories, and more then once.

Exactly, and I would rather see my loved one die doing something he loved that being forced to make a choice about being burned to death or jumping and which would be the least painful. Also that film done the the French guys, you could actually here the thuds from the bodies of these poor people hiting the ground. They were just going to work, there shouldn't have been a choice like that, in the luge or some of the other sports there in an inherent danger and they know that. They also are pretty aware that it may be shown on TV for all the world to see.

 

[bicker]

Sorry, your logic is flawed, and this isn't about knowing the risks of a sport, its about the moral aspect of showing a young mans horrible death over and over.

To be fair, you're engaging in your own hyperbole there. The fact that the competitor was "young" only serves to tug at heartstrings. I doubt you'd be able to adequately justify the difference between a 21 year old and a 31 year old, in this regard.

Its in very poor taste.

Personally I don't like to see people taking the risks implicit in luge, ostensibly for "sport", so I find the broadcasting of the competition, itself, even if no one got hurt, to be in "bad taste". I think imposing one's own personal proclivities onto the actions of others is really silly, though. It is best that we each judge only our own actions by our own principles, and reserve our judging of the actions of others to the principles that we've all implicitly agreed-to. Otherwise, I would be justified in saying that your eating animals is in very poor taste. That wouldn't make sense, would it? ... that my being an ethical vegetarian would imply that you're being unethical by not being a vegetarian? I'm sure you'd feel that that would be a preposterous assertion on my part, and it absolutely would be.

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

I saw my friend get killed by a drunk driver, it was all over the news, images of her, pictures of the accident for days. It didn't bother me though, because it was a fact of life. Sure it was emotional, but it also reminds us we are human, we are not invincible. If it opens one persons eyes to the risk or in good news, reward, then it has done all it can.

I've seen some horrific videos on TV and online, I'll never get the images out of my head, but nor do I want to. Its not because I like to see these thing, but it makes life all more real. I don't want to pretend I live in a bubble of all but good things.

Do you let your children watch?

 

[mhsjax]

Do you let your children watch?

I can't answer for the pp n this one, but if it happened to me, I would ABSOLUTELY let my kids watch. Scare the crap out of them and show the real horror of drinking and driving.

It amazes me on here how some Dis'ers say parent are helicopter parents and won't let their kids do anything. They state they have to learn somehow, so let your kids go to the movies alone at 12 years old. they need to learn how to handle it, yet when it comes to showing the truth while in the safety of your own home all of the sudden it is offensive. (not directed at you, but in general) Rant over

 

[elgerber]

I saw the luge footage last while making dinnner. I too, was appalled that they showed it on TV. Really, do we need to see that????? It was very upsetting.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

I think its important to point out that they are NOT showing this man's death. They are showing the accident which led to his death. He died in the trauma center he was taken to following the accident.

Bare body slamming backwards and upside down into a concrete piling at 90+ mph??

It is very likely (and I've read reports) he died upon impact. If so, we were watching his death.

But even if he did technically "die" at the hospital, it's splitting hairs IMO.

 

[-Hope-]

I agree, that it is 'splitting hairs- as I pointed out in my original post- for some this doesn't matter, for others it seems to be a crucial point. The facts as reported are that lifesaving efforts continued after he arrived at the trauma center and those facts were being repeatedly misrepresented in the discussion in this thread.

Bare body slamming backwards and upside down into a concrete piling at 90+ mph??

It is very likely (and I've read reports) he died upon impact. If so, we were watching his death.

But even if he did technically "die" at the hospital, it's splitting hairs IMO.

 

[FireDancer]

This is one of the reasons that we do not watch the news in my house. We get our news from the internet. It is still sensationalized to some degree, but not nearly as much as in the main stream media.

You cannot "unsee" something...

I get all of my news online with very little exception, I never watch local news. Sure, any news that is presented by a human being will have their prejudices or beliefs somewhat sway the news. The thing that I hate about the news on television is that it isn't about informing us, it is about selling ads.

If they cared you wouldn't see a news teaser at 4 in the afternoon that says "Can one of your child's toys kill them, find out at 11". They would just say at 4 "Hey, don't let your kids eat their legos".

The garbage that passes for news on the television is appalling and while that news is also available online you can pick and choose the articles you read and in what order. Sitting through a newsreader reading the news off of a screen holds no appeal for me. They might as well just put the teleprompter script online and let me read it for myself.

I stand my them showing everything. Anyone who feels so strongly about not seeing it can turn their head or turn the channel. I wouldn't say anyone should watch it but no one should be saying others can't. We can all decide for ourselves what we want to watch and what we feel we shouldn't or we don't want to.

 

[jlewisinsyr]

Do you let your children watch?

I don't have children, nor do I ever plan to, but that said, I wouldn't have an issue letting my nephew or niece see it. I would also use it as an opportunity to teach them. Now you may say, well it's not your child, you shouldn't make that choice, their parents should, and I agree, but I can say with utmost confidence that their teaching methods are very similar to what I stated above.

Our family doesn't believe in sheltering kids from the world around them, rather we prefer to use positive and negative events as educational tools.