Ok so I have a stupid question!

[battricia]

and.. I'll probably get laughed at.

Why would one want a lens without a manual aperature ring? It just seems so strange to me, hoo boy one of my first signs of 'aging'

I realize you can control all of those options from the camera body now, but this site is the first i'm hearing of these lenses! I just got a D80, I have had an n70 since 1997 (I think, I got it when I was 17). I saw someone posted about has anyone ever seen a lens with an aperature ring and I was thinking oh man I'm not THAT OLD! But what about learning about focus in relation to aperature and all that?! How do people learn that now?! (please note this is in jest but really, that's the way I remember learning it and man it seems so strange that there might be another way!)

Anyway, do people prefer these new-fangled lenses with no aperature rings? Do people still USE lenses with them? I'll be using all my lenses that went with my n70 on my D80 (they all work fine so far). Is it already an ancient idea, do people in photography class learn "well WAY back When, people actually turned a dial on the lens to control the aperature... neanderthals!"

Ok. Just wanted to get that out!

tricia.

 

[Master Mason]

I don't think that there is any differnce to learning to control the appature with a ring or a dial... they both do the same thing.

 

[jann1033]

and.. I'll probably get laughed at.

Why would one want a lens without a manual aperature ring? It just seems so strange to me, hoo boy one of my first signs of 'aging'

I realize you can control all of those options from the camera body now, but this site is the first i'm hearing of these lenses! I just got a D80, I have had an n70 since 1997 (I think, I got it when I was 17). I saw someone posted about has anyone ever seen a lens with an aperature ring and I was thinking oh manI'm not THAT OLD! But what about learning about focus in relation to aperature and all that?! How do people learn that now?! (please note this is in jest but really, that's the way I remember learning it and man it seems so strange that there might be another way!)

Anyway, do people prefer these new-fangled lenses with no aperature rings? Do people still USE lenses with them? I'll be using all my lenses that went with my n70 on my D80 (they all work fine so far). Is it already an ancient idea, do people in photography class learn "well WAY back When, people actually turned a dial on the lens to control the aperature... neanderthals!"

Ok. Just wanted to get that out!

tricia.

my italics...you mean other than the fact that as far as i know they no longer make them? truthfully i'm surprised you got new lenses in 97 that had them ( thought it would have been longer ago than that). i took photography in the dark ages of the 70s and didn't have a problem with figuring it out when i got a slr nearly 30 yrs later and my lens were all controled by the body...( thinking they must have been rings in those ancient days of the 70s.. before some who post on here even saw the light of day.. but didn't really think about it then or when the new ones didn't have it)...you turn a dial on the camera body just like you do for the shutter speed..that part is not anything close to rocket science...now make me figure out dof or something mathmatical and that is a whole nother ball game
it may have been me that asked mainly cause i foolishly bought extension tube s with no electronics so can't control the aperture.....

 

[handicap18]

and.. I'll probably get laughed at.

Why would one want a lens without a manual aperature ring? It just seems so strange to me, hoo boy one of my first signs of 'aging'

I realize you can control all of those options from the camera body now, but this site is the first i'm hearing of these lenses! I just got a D80, I have had an n70 since 1997 (I think, I got it when I was 17). I saw someone posted about has anyone ever seen a lens with an aperature ring and I was thinking oh man I'm not THAT OLD! But what about learning about focus in relation to aperature and all that?! How do people learn that now?! (please note this is in jest but really, that's the way I remember learning it and man it seems so strange that there might be another way!)

Anyway, do people prefer these new-fangled lenses with no aperature rings? Do people still USE lenses with them? I'll be using all my lenses that went with my n70 on my D80 (they all work fine so far). Is it already an ancient idea, do people in photography class learn "well WAY back When, people actually turned a dial on the lens to control the aperature... neanderthals!"

Ok. Just wanted to get that out!

tricia.

I also own an N70 that I got sometime around '97. (If you were 17 when you got your's then I'm quite a bit older). I currently use a Nikon D50. The 28-80mm lens I purchased with my N70 was a 'G' lens meaning it did not have an aperture ring. The 70-300 I used with it is a 'D' lens meaning it does have an aperture ring. Nikon has been making their glass both with and without aperture rings for quite sometime now. I believe all the new DX (enhanced for digital) lenses Nikon makes are 'G' lenses (I believe there are 8). Even some of their non DX lenses are 'G'. Looking through Nikon's current lenses even the newly released non-DX lenses are 'G'. This includes the 70-300mm w/VR, the 105mm f/2.8 Macro (EXCELLENT lens), 300mm f/2.8 w/VR, the $4,000+ 200-400mm f/4 w/VR, and possibly one of their best ever lenses the 70-200mm f/2.8 w/VR. There are a lot of other newer primes that are 'D', but it doesn''t really matter unless you have a very old camera body.

The aperture ring is only necessary for camera bodies that have no onboard computer. You can use any nikon body in the full manual mode, you just set everything in the body. There are computer chips that do all the communication to the lens to change the actual blades that set the aperture.

The last time I set an f/stop on the lens was when I took photography classes in High School back in the 80's. Since then the 'D' lenses that I've used I've kept on f/22 in the locked position and set the f/stop in the camera body.

 

[0bli0]

i have aperture rings on my rangefinder lenses. they're not detented, so you can set the aperture anywhere you like (you're not limited to 2 or 4 or 5.6 or 8, etc.).

on Canon EF mount lenses, everything is controlled by the camera so there is no ring. on old FD mount lenses, they're not controlled by the camera so they have rings. you can get an adapter to use these on EF bodies and they work in AV mode (if you manually set the aperture, of course). if you have an m42 mount lens, you can screw on an EF adapter and it will work the same way.

Nikon still uses their same mount so you can use old lenses and still meter appropriately.

 

[jann1033]

boy you nikonians really areliving in the dark ages, now us canonians... sorry i figured ( i guess since i never look at nikon lenses) they were a thing of the past .