Official WDW Marathon Weekend 2013 Thread

[thndrmatt]

Just to give another end of the perspective I'll chime in. I sweat. A lot. To the tune of 4 pounds an hour on a hot day. During multi hour events of any nature, over years of training I eventually discovered I have to take in enough calories, salt, and fluids to basically vomit, and then back it off by a smidge. I've had to become very methodical in my nutrition during events.

For running, I alternate sports drink and water every stop at races, or if I'm on my own every 10-12 minutes. Each time I drink 8 large swallows. If they are only half filling the aid station cups or even less, I have to grab two or three. I don't let the aid station filling technique dictate the amount of fluids I need, I make sure I get enough. Ditto if sports drink is very watered down. This adds to A LOT of hydration, somewhere around 40oz+ an hour. With each water stop, I also take a gel (Power Gel in my case, vanilla-nocaffeine in training, strawberrybanana-caffeine in races). This works out to about every 25-30 minutes. I find towards the end of the 30 minutes I'm starting to flag and ready for another.

Saltstick tablets are the other thing I take, because you don't want to drink that much and not get an equal amount of salt/electrolytes. I take one before the start to get things going, and then 1 on the hour every hour with the 2nd/4th/6th etc. gels.

Phew! Seems like a lot to keep track of, but I have one of those two pouch waist belt things, once pouch is 8 gels for a marathon, the other is a tube filled with 5 salt tablets.

MOST importantly, YOU have to find out what works for YOU and the only way to do that is have some truly epic long run blowups in training.

 

[PRmamiDEdos]

Not sure if training for my 1/2 in October is the same as the training I've just started for the marathon in January. It's getting ridiculous because the times and amounts are differing. Should I just pay attention to my 1/2 training and then go from there once I'm done in October?

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Not sure if training for my 1/2 in October is the same as the training I've just started for the marathon in January. It's getting ridiculous because the times and amounts are differing. Should I just pay attention to my 1/2 training and then go from there once I'm done in October?

It depends on what plan you're using. At the moment, I'm base building, but also preparing for a September 7th half. My 18 week marathon plan begins September 9th.

 

[jmasgat]

If your marathon plan actually starts now, then I would follow that one--if it builds in such a way that it would support your doing the 1/2 in October. Meaning, if your marathon plan has you doing 10-13 mile long runs a couple weeks before your 1/2, you would be okay.

One caveat: I would only start the marathon plan if I had the base built up for it.

As an example, I have just started my marathon plan for New York in November. For the last 3 months, I used my usual half plan so that I could build up a proper base (meaning, I could start my marathon plan ready to do the length long run required).

Hope you figure out a plan/transition that works for you.

Maura

 

[John VN]

.........MOST importantly, YOU have to find out what works for YOU and the only way to do that is have some truly epic long run blowups in training.

There is another way to exercise for hours instead of "epic long run blowups in training". The answer is bicycling.

e.g.-I got out this morning for a short 51 mile, 2.5 hour hard ride where I had to replenish with gels and drink fluids. This time frame is actually 20 minutes longer than my half marathon walking time so it is still a good indication of my required nutrient needs.

A couple of weeks ago I got out for a 100 mile ride which was 5 1/2 hours of biking. That ride was over half an hour longer than my walking marathon time so again a great guide as to my needed nutrient requirements.

The best thing about bicycling is you can exercise for the extended time periods without pounding your body as you do when running while every bit getting a tremendous cardio workout. IMO, it's a shame runners do not use bicycling more aggressively in their training.

 

[thndrmatt]

No one will argue the benefits of cross training via methods including cycling. The previous posters mentioned the distress caused by trying to maintain caloric intake while running due to the slosh factor and digestive challenges that are faced, and that's something I've never been able to simulate while cycling due to the more comfortable position and body movement (or lack thereof). My nutrition plan on the bike is totally different than on the run, and I spared the details to avoid a tangent.

It still requires some multi hour runs like those recommended towards the end of all training programs to figure out what works best for an individual. Weighing before/after to determine dehydration, seeing how fatigued a person is week to week, comparing that to what they took in, experimenting with different products, etc.

But like a good pair of shoes, once you find the magic formula, stick with it!

 

[PRmamiDEdos]

I'll stick with the marathon training since I'm still building up (9 miler this weekend ). This should be fine because I will at least continue after the Diva 1/2 in October.

October is going to be a crazy month. I've signed up for the Diva 1/2 and 6 days after that I'm running the Rock n Roll 10K with DH. Two weeks after that we're doing the Run For Your Lives 5k Zombie Obstacle run. That's the one I can't wait for. It should be loads of fun.

So what's everyone wearing on their feet? At the expo for the LI Marathon (DH and I ran the 10k), we each bought a pair of Newton Gravity running shoes. I swear, I will never go back to regular running sneakers. The lugs on the bottom of the shoe are genius if not magic . They run smaller than regular sneakers so I needed a 5.5. I will be getting another pair in December so I can break them in for the marathon.

 

[KSBelle77]

I'll stick with the marathon training since I'm still building up (9 miler this weekend ). This should be fine because I will at least continue after the Diva 1/2 in October.

October is going to be a crazy month. I've signed up for the Diva 1/2 and 6 days after that I'm running the Rock n Roll 10K with DH. Two weeks after that we're doing the Run For Your Lives 5k Zombie Obstacle run. That's the one I can't wait for. It should be loads of fun.

So what's everyone wearing on their feet? At the expo for the LI Marathon (DH and I ran the 10k), we each bought a pair of Newton Gravity running shoes. I swear, I will never go back to regular running sneakers. The lugs on the bottom of the shoe are genius if not magic . They run smaller than regular sneakers so I needed a 5.5. I will be getting another pair in December so I can break them in for the marathon.

I will be wearing my hot pink newtons distance u! Love them!!

 

[FFigawi]

So what's everyone wearing on their feet?

Either my Vibrams or my Minimus. I'll probably wear one of them for the half and the other for the full.

 

[jeanigor]

So what's everyone wearing on their feet?

Probably my vibrams.

 

[RENThead09]

I will be wearing bright neon volt Pegasus 29+ by Nike. Love the color. Bought 3 pairs this week.

 

[BigEeyore]

In general, my stomach is upset after EVERY long run I do! I have tried pretty much every brand of fuel and Honey Stingers work the best for me, but my body just seems to rebel after anything over 7-8 miles. Luckily, I am fine during the actual run so I just deal with it!

This describes me EXACTLY! I do find that it is worse if I push myself at a really hard pace and/or when it is pretty hot outside. I am hoping that my stomach will learn to live with the extra miles as we head toward the marathon!

 

[DrMomof3]

I'm mostly wearing my Brooks Adrenaline but I'm slowly learning to run in my Brooks Pure Cadence. I'm only using the Pure Cadence on one short run per week and it's been a process for me. I was told it could take a year or more to transition to more minimalist shoes, especially from where I'm starting.
For the races I'll definitely wear the Adrenalines. It's almost time to replace them for the 4th or 5th time....

Amanda

 

[Goofierunner]

New Balance WT10. They are billed as trail shoes but I have had zero problems running on pavement. I've been hooked on minimalist shoes since I tried the Vibrams and was looking for something with just a little more cushion. The nice girl at the Born to Run store in Bellevue, WA brought out these beauts. It was love at first feel. I tried on about a hundred other pairs but kept going back to the New Balance. *sigh* I.love.these.shoes.

The minimalist movement has completely changed my running life. I am so much more aware of how I'm moving because I have immediate feedback in my feet. Smaller stride, faster cadence, little more bend to the knees, ever so slight lean forward. No more shin pain. No more knee pain. Running is an absolute joy.

 

[Mickey'sfriend]

I'm currently training in Brooks, but I will race in my Mazunos. They are very lightweight in comparison to my Brooks.

 

[BernardandMissBianca]

New Balance WT10. They are billed as trail shoes but I have had zero problems running on pavement. I've been hooked on minimalist shoes since I tried the Vibrams and was looking for something with just a little more cushion. The nice girl at the Born to Run store in Bellevue, WA brought out these beauts. It was love at first feel. I tried on about a hundred other pairs but kept going back to the New Balance. *sigh* I.love.these.shoes.

The minimalist movement has completely changed my running life. I am so much more aware of how I'm moving because I have immediate feedback in my feet. Smaller stride, faster cadence, little more bend to the knees, ever so slight lean forward. No more shin pain. No more knee pain. Running is an absolute joy.

I love mine too!! I have 2 pairs of the WT 10's and I'm looking at the new road zero as well. I'm leaning towards the road zeros for the 1/2 marathon.

I've been struggling with Plantar Fasciitis, and these have been a life saver. I'm about 95% pain free and getting better every day.

 

[AladdinToMy4YO]

Just registered for the half --- it'll be my first. Ran in high school but then took it easy for awhile. So gearing up with a Dis buddy to get in shape and let the Disney magic help us through our first half marathon. Looking forward to sharing tips and the great Disboards community support training for it!

 

[ChrisNY2]

So what's everyone wearing on their feet?

Right now my Neon Turquoise Nikes! I love them

 

[Terapin]

I'm running in Saucony Progrid Guide 5s. Like them lots. Trying to get my heel to toe ramp down as I started in really corrective shoes and have been strengthening my feet to go less structured over time. Feeling a little twinge-y here and there in my plantar fascia but so far so good.

 

[McDuck]

I am in a pair of Asics from a sporting good store. I found out I need a different size/type of shoe, but these are still in great shape so this fall I'm going to go ahead and get fitted for the right shoes!