Official WDW Marathon Weekend 2013 Thread-Part 2

[kmg148]

Also looking for some more advice if anyone would like to give it!

I got really behind in my training due to my work schedule (sorry if you've read this before!!) and picked up at Hal Higdon's Novice 1 program. I started at week 11 and did a long run of 16 miles. This week's long run is supposed to be 12 miles. Since I missed week 10, which was a 15 mile long run, should I do 15 this weekend instead of 12? Is that a bad idea?

Thanks for any help!

 

[kmg148]

First, let me say that I am sorry for all the folks with injuries! Been there, and it sucks.

My long run on Saturday was 14 miles and it was pretty miserable. Snowing lightly, and gusty winds for the first 5-6 miles, enough to blow me around a little and chill me to my core. I walked a little longer on some of my intervals and felt pretty down. I also struggled with some anxiety at the beginning of the run as it was my longest to date. At mile 10 I stopped at a restaurant to use the bathroom and have a coffee, and then it got dark (and was still windy and at freezing). I was cold and damp, and so rather than suffer the rest of the mileage home, I got picked up and drove to the gym where I finished the remaining miles on the dreadmill. Felt good that I kept at it, even with all the temptation to go home, but put in that remaining hour of time for a good total of 14 miles and 3 hours on my feet. I wished that I had kept at it in a way, just to do it in one go, rather than break it up. I did go immediately to the gym and run with no lollygagging, but still I admit to being a little disappointed that I don't have a 14 mile road run under my belt.

This weekend I am pulling back a bit and running 10/5 miles Sat/Sun. Next weekend I am running 15.5/6.5. I have other shorter runs mid-week (tempo runs and hills), and I am cross-training at the gym with 60 minutes cardio + 30 minutes weight training 3 times a week. I'm trying to drop about 10 pounds before the race, yet still eating really well and fuelling myself for runs.

I am super pleased to report that my knee pain that was so acute in October has continued to get better and better and is 98% resolved. I still get some weird 'twanging' sensations in my knee when my gait slips, feels like a tendon being plucked on the inside aspect of my knee, and I still get quite a bit of muscle stiffness and aching during and after runs, but I am grateful to be pain-free!

I am super intimidated by the remaining long runs. 5 more to go.

You should be so proud that you got the 14 miles in! Great job not giving up and hitting the treadmill for those final miles. You'll do great on the remaining ones, I'm sure!

 

[FFigawi]

I got really behind in my training due to my work schedule (sorry if you've read this before!!) and picked up at Hal Higdon's Novice 1 program. I started at week 11 and did a long run of 16 miles. This week's long run is supposed to be 12 miles. Since I missed week 10, which was a 15 mile long run, should I do 15 this weekend instead of 12? Is that a bad idea?

I think trying to make up miles is generally a bad idea, especially when you're "really behind in my training." Running catch-up miles is a really good way to get hurt. Just stick with the schedule.

 

[Terapin]

You should be so proud that you got the 14 miles in! Great job not giving up and hitting the treadmill for those final miles. You'll do great on the remaining ones, I'm sure!

Thank you for your encouragement!

 

[kmg148]

I think trying to make up miles is generally a bad idea, especially when you're "really behind in my training." Running catch-up miles is a really good way to get hurt. Just stick with the schedule.

Thanks! I know it's usually a bad thing, but since I'm planned to do 12, I didn't know if it was worth it or not.

Had my first marathon nightmare last night. In my dream I got swept!

 

[Ariel484]

First, let me say that I am sorry for all the folks with injuries! Been there, and it sucks.

My long run on Saturday was 14 miles and it was pretty miserable. Snowing lightly, and gusty winds for the first 5-6 miles, enough to blow me around a little and chill me to my core. I walked a little longer on some of my intervals and felt pretty down. I also struggled with some anxiety at the beginning of the run as it was my longest to date. At mile 10 I stopped at a restaurant to use the bathroom and have a coffee, and then it got dark (and was still windy and at freezing). I was cold and damp, and so rather than suffer the rest of the mileage home, I got picked up and drove to the gym where I finished the remaining miles on the dreadmill. Felt good that I kept at it, even with all the temptation to go home, but put in that remaining hour of time for a good total of 14 miles and 3 hours on my feet. I wished that I had kept at it in a way, just to do it in one go, rather than break it up. I did go immediately to the gym and run with no lollygagging, but still I admit to being a little disappointed that I don't have a 14 mile road run under my belt.

This weekend I am pulling back a bit and running 10/5 miles Sat/Sun. Next weekend I am running 15.5/6.5. I have other shorter runs mid-week (tempo runs and hills), and I am cross-training at the gym with 60 minutes cardio + 30 minutes weight training 3 times a week. I'm trying to drop about 10 pounds before the race, yet still eating really well and fuelling myself for runs.

I am super pleased to report that my knee pain that was so acute in October has continued to get better and better and is 98% resolved. I still get some weird 'twanging' sensations in my knee when my gait slips, feels like a tendon being plucked on the inside aspect of my knee, and I still get quite a bit of muscle stiffness and aching during and after runs, but I am grateful to be pain-free!

I am super intimidated by the remaining long runs. 5 more to go.

Even if the run did not go the way you wanted it to, you are stronger for completing it. Learn what you can from it and try to apply it to your future runs, and then move on. Great to hear that your knee pain is better!

Also looking for some more advice if anyone would like to give it!

I got really behind in my training due to my work schedule (sorry if you've read this before!!) and picked up at Hal Higdon's Novice 1 program. I started at week 11 and did a long run of 16 miles. This week's long run is supposed to be 12 miles. Since I missed week 10, which was a 15 mile long run, should I do 15 this weekend instead of 12? Is that a bad idea?

Thanks for any help!

I think trying to make up miles is generally a bad idea, especially when you're "really behind in my training." Running catch-up miles is a really good way to get hurt. Just stick with the schedule.

I agree with FFigawi, stick to the rest of the plan as scheduled.

Thanks! I know it's usually a bad thing, but since I'm planned to do 12, I didn't know if it was worth it or not.

Had my first marathon nightmare last night. In my dream I got swept!

And weirdly, I had a dream last night that I ran a marathon in 3:35! That will never, EVER happen.

Last year before the marathon I had nightmares that I overslept and forgot my camera on the course. I haven't had any nightmares this year...yet.

Don't worry about getting swept...all you can do is your best. Just focus on your training.

 

[cewait]

A question for Coach or anyone else who has any ideas:

This weekend I did back to back long runs - 10 miles Saturday, 20 miles Sunday. It was rather cold and windy (with snow squalls) both days. I wore the exact same clothes both days-compression tights, l/s tech shirt, wind breaker, gloves and headband. After Saturdays run, I was busy doing "stuff" around the house. Felt no post-run tightness or pain in the quads or hammies. Sunday I had no issues prior to running. After I finished my 20 miles, I had to walk about 1/4 mile to the car. Went home with my thighs feeling numb from the cold and took a long hot shower.

I have not had one iota of muscle soreness since. Whats up with that? Was it due to the 4 hours in the cold and then the hot shower? I had the typical "can't do stairs/sitting on the toilet" pain after my 20 miler in September and my marathon attempt last month. Not that I am complaining, mind you, but am curious as to why this is. Cause if I can replicate it at Marathon Weekend, I would love to since we are going on a cruise right after the race. Any thoughts appreciated!

Compression and cold temps do help, but so do miles and experience. Enjoy it. It won't feel that way every weekend, but you will probably notice feeling better more often than you used to.

Exactly.. One of the scripts from orthopedic docs are braces that are built up from a neoprene sleeve. The neoprene acts to compress the injured joint making it feel better. For the muscle, compression helps prevent blood pooling in the extremities and helps support the muscle. The cold prevents/slows micro-bleeds that occur as a result of the work being performed by the muscle. This is the theory behind ice baths post run.

 

[cewait]

First, let me say that I am sorry for all the folks with injuries! Been there, and it sucks.

My long run on Saturday was 14 miles and it was pretty miserable. Snowing lightly, and gusty winds for the first 5-6 miles, enough to blow me around a little and chill me to my core. I walked a little longer on some of my intervals and felt pretty down. I also struggled with some anxiety at the beginning of the run as it was my longest to date. At mile 10 I stopped at a restaurant to use the bathroom and have a coffee, and then it got dark (and was still windy and at freezing). I was cold and damp, and so rather than suffer the rest of the mileage home, I got picked up and drove to the gym where I finished the remaining miles on the dreadmill. Felt good that I kept at it, even with all the temptation to go home, but put in that remaining hour of time for a good total of 14 miles and 3 hours on my feet. I wished that I had kept at it in a way, just to do it in one go, rather than break it up. I did go immediately to the gym and run with no lollygagging, but still I admit to being a little disappointed that I don't have a 14 mile road run under my belt.

This weekend I am pulling back a bit and running 10/5 miles Sat/Sun. Next weekend I am running 15.5/6.5. I have other shorter runs mid-week (tempo runs and hills), and I am cross-training at the gym with 60 minutes cardio + 30 minutes weight training 3 times a week. I'm trying to drop about 10 pounds before the race, yet still eating really well and fuelling myself for runs.

I am super pleased to report that my knee pain that was so acute in October has continued to get better and better and is 98% resolved. I still get some weird 'twanging' sensations in my knee when my gait slips, feels like a tendon being plucked on the inside aspect of my knee, and I still get quite a bit of muscle stiffness and aching during and after runs, but I am grateful to be pain-free!

I am super intimidated by the remaining long runs. 5 more to go.

Take your intimidation and use it as a learning tool! Your intimidation is similar to the fear that you will feel on race morning. Take the feelings you have today, add to that the great feeling you have during the run as you see that you are going to complete a new longest distance. Add the feelings you have knowing that you just completed a break through run. These accomplishments are foundations that will create confidence to allow you to push off on race day morning. You will not be the only one in your corral on race morning feeling some form of fear. Use your accomplishments to turn that energy into a positive “I will do this” energy and then run your race. Think of the first time you completed 6 miles, 10 miles, etc. Think of how good it felt to push the stop button on your watch after completing your longest run.

What you feel is normal and it is up to you to channel it into a positive energy.

 

[cewait]

Also looking for some more advice if anyone would like to give it!

I got really behind in my training due to my work schedule (sorry if you've read this before!!) and picked up at Hal Higdon's Novice 1 program. I started at week 11 and did a long run of 16 miles. This week's long run is supposed to be 12 miles. Since I missed week 10, which was a 15 mile long run, should I do 15 this weekend instead of 12? Is that a bad idea?

Thanks for any help!

Craming for a marathon will lead to injuries. Just run the 12 on the schedule and then 18 next week after that. The 18 will be tough enough and you body will appreciate the pull back week.

 

[njmeisje]

Is there anywhere on line where one can see the Marathon course in slower motion than the Disney youtube video? Something using Google maps? This is my first Marathon, and I'm thinking I'd like to begin visualizing what this is going to be like. Sorry if that sounds silly.

Thanks in advance!
Diane

 

[Weluvdisny]

I was just watching youtube and I noticed that Alison Sweeney from Biggest Loser is running the 1/2 in January! I love that show!! Watching the contestants' determination to lose weight, and the fact that they don't ever give up inspires me to push myself farther. I hope to see her down there!

 

[steph0808]

I was just watching youtube and I noticed that Alison Sweeney from Biggest Loser is running the 1/2 in January! I love that show!! Watching the contestants' determination to lose weight, and the fact that they don't ever give up inspires me to push myself farther. I hope to see her down there!

I hope to see Drew Carey and Sean Astin (well, mostly Sean Astin) doing the full. I have promised my BFF to take a picture of him if I see him. Goonies never say die!!!!

 

[Weluvdisny]

I hope to see Drew Carey and Sean Astin (well, mostly Sean Astin) doing the full. I have promised my BFF to take a picture of him if I see him. Goonies never say die!!!!

I love the Goonies too!!!! That would be so cool to see any of them there!

 

[cewait]

Is there anywhere on line where one can see the Marathon course in slower motion than the Disney youtube video? Something using Google maps? This is my first Marathon, and I'm thinking I'd like to begin visualizing what this is going to be like. Sorry if that sounds silly.

Thanks in advance!
Diane

Try this link. I just added the new water stops

http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/fullscreen/156764913/

 

[Momto2PrncChrmgs]

I was just watching youtube and I noticed that Alison Sweeney from Biggest Loser is running the 1/2 in January! I love that show!! Watching the contestants' determination to lose weight, and the fact that they don't ever give up inspires me to push myself farther. I hope to see her down there!

I have to brag-my husband was the "at home" trainer for two of this past seasons contestants. He got to go out for the finale and got his pic taken with Alison. He looks like a googly-eyed teenager.

 

[njmeisje]

Thanks so much Coach. Much appreciated!

 

[ironz]

Hi all! I'm enjoying reading about how everyone's training is going!

I went to an ortho yesterday about my knee. He wants me to get an MRI just to rule out anything crazy but both he and my PT don't think it's really anything serious. I was able to do some leg raise type exercises at PT today and am walking without a limp. I haven't gotten back to running but am hopeful I can soon. I am extremely nervous about the marathon. Both doc and PT think that I should be ok since I have an 18 miler under my belt. I hope they are right. Still not being able to run and less than 7 weeks til the race seems a little nutsy to me. Thoughts anyone?

Hope it continues to get better! I thought about you on my run today. My longest run so far is 15.7ish. Oh, yeah, I'll be undertrained, but at least my background gives me the mental toughness side of gutting it out.

 

[tehvalerie]

Well, add me to the list of injured runners. I went to the ortho today for some hip pain that I've been having since my half marathon 3.5 weeks ago. He took X-rays to look for a stress fracture and didn't see anything but said he wasn't convinced I don't have one hiding in there. But he said I have a fair amount of muscle/tissue inflammation and is sending me to PT.

However, I'm not allowed to run for two weeks. I am allowed to bike and possibly use the elliptical if it doesn't hurt.

I want to bike as much as possible to maintain my fitness level in the event that he clears me to complete training and run the marathon. The farthest I've run so far is 14 miles. (I had to cut last weekend's 16 miler short due to pain.) Should I correlate the miles or time I would've spent running to the distance/time I complete on the bike? I'll ask my physical therapist about this when I see her tomorrow, but was wondering if anyone here has ever been in a similar position and what you'd recommend.

 

[Goofierunner]

Ok, I want to take a moment and tip my cap to all those runners who have trained over the six months in all types of weather: blistering heat, suffocating humidity, and now rain, wind and snow. I live in the Seattle area and I've had a pretty easy time of it. Our summer was late, as always, but perfect temps and we nearly set a record for lack of rain. Now we are seeing more rain and pretty chilly (40s) but we probably won't see snow before the race and we love to layer.
I'm bringing this up because I just stepped outside and it sucks out there. Misty rain, 41 degrees, foggy. And I do not want to lace up my shoes and run. But I will. Because of you. You have gotten up early and run in the dark before it gets to be 110. You are out there in the snow, somehow getting your miles in, even though you can't feel your legs anymore. Some of you may be even running in areas where sandy hit, haven't had power, but by god, you are running.

I salute you.

 

[PRmamiDEdos]

To everyone suffering injuries, hope you're all well and on your way to a speedy recovery!!!!

Wow, took me a while to realize a new thread was started. Oops!!

I'm heading out to do my first 11 ever. Pretty sure I'm gonna die.

I kept thinking, geez, no one has written on the board and then I found this. Ugh. Feel like a dumdum. LOL

If you decide to buy it, Amazon has it for $150 today!!

I saw that and I'm hoping the price holds out until my next paycheck. I want to get it for DH as a Christmas gift. All the days off that the kids had I was stuck home with them not getting paid. Sandy and Thanksgiving took a toll on my wallet, .

I haven't been able to run as much as I want to. Last week I did 6 on Tuesday, 2 on Wednesday and started to get hot/ cold chills and walked home, 2 on Thursday and was sick on Saturday from eating too much on Thanksgiving. I really overdid it. This week ,DH has been staying some nights at the office so I haven't had an opportunity to get a run in. I wish i lived closer to my mom so I could bring the kids there.

Hoping to get back to my schedule soon or convince DH that we need a treadmill at home.

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