Official Fantasyland Expansion Q & A (Mickey gets evicted) PART II

[DCTooTall]

Dumbo moving has been confirmed, so it will open in two phases. Here is the article from the Sentinel, confirmed by a Disney spokesperson:

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/di...etails-about-new-dumbo-ride-at-magic-kingdom/

ok. i stand corrected.

 

[DisneyTraveler18]

That looks really neat. I just hope they figure out how to keep it from swinging too much. I can just see a couple of rowdy kids trying to flip that cart.

Its very simple to keep the cars from swinging too much. Motion dampers can be mounted to the ride car to keep the car from swinging too much.

 

[chicagoshannon]

I wouldn't think it would take long at all to move Dumbo. It's basically a carnival ride. They put those things up over night. Disney being Disney, I bet they could move that sucker over night!

 

[t_catt11]

Dumbo moving has been confirmed, so it will open in two phases. Here is the article from the Sentinel, confirmed by a Disney spokesperson:

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/di...etails-about-new-dumbo-ride-at-magic-kingdom/

I'm surprised that they don't just create them anew, rather than move the old one. I'm predicting one that is in better shape (especially maintainence wise) than the other.

 

[PrincessArlena'sDad]

At least it'll be clear which Dumbo is the original. Personally, I'll always want to ride in the "original" Dumbo, as opposed to the mirror image Dumbo that may be out of Wonderland for all we know.

 

[miprender]

Robo just posted this in another thread but I thought everyone here would like to see it too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTyOITQmpsg

Thanks for the link.

 

[PrncesKMW]

I know these pale in comparison to the official Imagineering video that's been posted, but though I'd share with you folks my pics of the Fantasyland model at the Expo (because trust me - my friends and family do NOT care!)

Here is a picture from what will be the "entry" to the new Fantasyland after you walk through Cinderella's Castle:

You can see the yellow roof of the Mine Train ride, a bit of Belle's village to the upper left, and Prince Eric's Castle (Little Mermaid Ride) at the top.

Here is a view if you were standing a bit farther to the right, where you can see Beast's Castle:

And here is a view of the entrance to the revamped Mickey's Toontown area:

It looks like there isn't much on the walk to Mickey's Toontown - as the Mine Train ride is smack in the middle of everything - looks like a bit of a walk around the outdoor portion of the mine train ride to get back there.

Here is another one where you can see the Dumbo rides - double your Dumbo fun (in truth, I can't stand this ride):

Here's a picture from the parks presentation of the audio-animatronic Lumiere. I can't remember if he will be in the queue or at the actual character greeting area:

It's a bit blurry because the character was moving. The motion looked exactly like Lumiere's fluid movements from the movie, though they did not play any sort of soundtrack with it.

Finally, here is a VERY blurry picture of Belle's character greeting:

I find the whole "Belle's Village" thing interesting - while there will be Belle's house for the character greeting, and a restaurant in Beast's castle, I believe Belle's Village may be all shopping?

The Imagineers were wonderful to talk to. I can second the above posts by saying that they did confirm it will not be completely open until at least early 2014 - a woman said she would be going in 2013 and they said all of it would not be open yet.

Also, while they didn't specifically say it would be a "problem," they explained that if a large adult and a small child ride the mine train ride together there will be more rocking than if two more equally weighted people would ride.

With all that said, I can't wait to finally see the finished product, though 2014 is certainly a long wait!

 

[chicagoshannon]

Thanks for posting that with the explanation. I've bee waiting for some info from D23. Looks like there are going to be a ton of trees. I don't like that if appears you'll be able to see the back of the Dumbo building from the Indy car ride. That doesn't look too appealing.

 

[undertheseas]

Thanks guys for all of the updates! It's a double edge sword, that gives me time to save up for a big trip but then again it gives everyone else time too!

 

[Plaid Princess]

I heard that the train is closing so the track can be moved, is that true?

No.

The train is not closing for Fantasyland, if it closes it is due to it's own refurbishment schedule. However, the Toontown train stop will be closed for the duration of the construction.

Which will be interesting considering that Toontown is where the train takes on water, so unless they move the tower, it will likely still stop there.

Since there is going to be construction during my visit, do I get a discount?

No. Now you're just being ridiculous. Magic Kingdom has the highest number of attractions. Even with the construction, there are still more attractions at Magic Kingdom than any other park.

This made me laugh for about five minutes.

 

[Berlioz70]

Which will be interesting considering that Toontown is where the train takes on water, so unless they move the tower, it will likely still stop there.

It does still physically stop for the water, Guests just cannot get on or off. The new train station is coming along very quickly!

This made me laugh for about five minutes.

There was a handful of threads where this was actually a question.

 

[hookedonears]

I’m sure this has been discussed herein, but I'm becoming a little concerned about the ride experience of the new dueling Dumbo's. We enjoy seeing a large part of Fantasyland during the existing Dumbo ride. The more I look at the artist’s renditions, it looks like the views for more than half of the ride are going to be obscured by the surrounded tents covering the ques. Another view will be obscured by the view of the other Dumbo ride, and the last remaining portion will have trees obscuring the view. Just like the Aladdin ride in Adventure land, there's very little to see, which makes this attraction not much more than a fair ride for us, which we skip. Just getting concerned.

 

[mom2rtk]

I’m sure this has been discussed herein, but I'm becoming a little concerned about the ride experience of the new dueling Dumbo's. We enjoy seeing a large part of Fantasyland during the existing Dumbo ride. The more I look at the artist’s renditions, it looks like the views for more than half of the ride are going to be obscured by the surrounded tents covering the ques. Another view will be obscured by the view of the other Dumbo ride, and the last remaining portion will have trees obscuring the view. Just like the Aladdin ride in Adventure land, there's very little to see, which makes this attraction not much more than a fair ride for us, which we skip. Just getting concerned.

I have contended from day one that the appeal of Dumbo was the view of Fantasyland, not the ride itself. After you can do the same "ride" in Adventureland and Animal Kingdom, or at your local fair. We'll try the new one of course, but I'm not sure it will remain on our "must do" list. And that's a shame. It was always one of one of our top favorites.

 

[hookedonears]

I have contended from day one that the appeal of Dumbo was the view of Fantasyland, not the ride itself. After you can do the same "ride" in Adventureland and Animal Kingdom, or at your local fair. We'll try the new one of course, but I'm not sure it will remain on our "must do" list. And that's a shame. It was always one of one of our top favorites.

Of course, we will try it as well, but just like you, the jury will be out until same.

 

[DCTooTall]

I have contended from day one that the appeal of Dumbo was the view of Fantasyland, not the ride itself. After you can do the same "ride" in Adventureland and Animal Kingdom, or at your local fair. We'll try the new one of course, but I'm not sure it will remain on our "must do" list. And that's a shame. It was always one of one of our top favorites.

Don't forget Tomorowland. If it's a view you want, I still think the Astro Orbiters have the best one.

 

[Berlioz70]

New Fantasyland expansion opening timeline

New Fantasyland expansion opening timeline
# Complete - Hundred Acre Wood facade for The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
# Early 2012 - Half of Storybook Circus with double Dumbo, Great Goofini coaster, Fantasyland Train Station, Casey Jr.
# Late 2012 - Under the Sea ~ Journey of the Little Mermaid ride, Be Our Guest restaurant, Beauty and the Beast village, Belle meet-and-greet, Castle wall
# Early 2013 - Remaining half of Storybook Circus with Pete’s Silly Sideshow
# Late 2013 - Seven Dwarfs Mine Train roller coaster

 

[BebopBaloo]

New Fantasyland expansion opening timeline

Thanks Berlioz!

 

[lamb616]

New Fantasyland expansion opening timeline

oh, It's like Christmas came early for me! I had been planning to go back to WDW in 2013 after a good portion of FL was done, but it kept creeping into my mind that I really don't want to wait that long, so I was starting to think that maybe we should just go in spring of 2012, and forget about any of FL being done. But now it looks like some of it WILL be done! This pretty much made up my mind for me! Now I just have to convince DH.....

 

[sandym718]

Excited to know there is a POSSIBILITY we may get to see some of the new things next March. Even though my kids are not thrill-lovers, Barnstormer was always a favorite and they missed it this year. They'd be thrilled to be able to ride the new incarnation. Not going to get their hopes up yet, though!

 

[EMHDad]

just curious if somebody can quickly repost the most updated understanding of waht will be open in 2012 and a general idea (monthwise) when it might be open. I know nothing is set in stone yet. Thank you.