Official "Castle" thread! Spoilers welcomed!

[Missy1961]

http://tvline.com/2013/02/26/greys-...mail&utm_campaign=spoilerscastingsscoopsalert

 

[Missy1961]

Castle & Hunt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPqkvTU9-2Q&feature=em-uploademail

 

[Missy1961]

the escape:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUDOwBuuR-E&feature=em-uploademail

 

[Missy1961]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmGnelzGH6g&feature=em-uploademail

 

[Missy1961]

last scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmGnelzGH6g&feature=em-uploademail

 

[Missy1961]

Beckett:

http://us-mg1.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch#mail

 

[NotUrsula]

Gina Torres stars in a delightful series called "Suits." Domineering. . .in a good way.

SPOILER FOLLOWS! (I know it says "spoilers welcome" but just in case )

As for the part 2 episode that just aired, I for one thought it jumped the shark. There, I said it. I love "Castle," enjoy Fillion (since his days as Mal), and think there's life left in the series. But, really? France? Spy stuff? A blind guy who can identify specific sounds in a city of millions? A Russian dude who just happens to own a cage in which to keep a human hostage in the middle of his high-rent penthouse? It was just too much to swallow.

You have some valid points, and my DH also used the dreaded "shark" phrase, but I think that a lot of it was meant to be tongue-in-cheek homage, both to past episodes or to films. I think it was supposed to be a gift to the show's fan base -- however misguided that may have been.

Obviously, Paris was a nod to Taken, as I think also was having Christopher Heyerdahl wear that particular style of hair and beard, which strongly resembled the style Neeson wore in Batman Begins. "Dad is a spy" goes way back in this show, to the time in (I think the second season) that Alexis asked if he ever regretted not knowing, and Castle tells her that not knowing means that he can pretend anything he wants to, including that Dad is a master spy. The whole thing with the church and the church bells is probably a Hitchcock homage to The Man Who Knew Too Much -- not coincidentally, a story of a man who is mistaken for a spy searching for his child who has been kidnapped by a ring of spies. As for the cage, that was the kind of cage that is used in apartment building basements to lock tenants' possessions, they ship flat, so it would be the easiest way to build a temporary prison cell if you wanted one.

Marlowe said they could only do that once -- meaning putting Alexis in danger and also spending the money to finance filming abroad. In future, I recommend that they stay away from both of those things.

What I've noticed this season and in part of S4 is that Castle has become nearly completely Kate-centric, and it is watering him down. What happened to the guy who had mysterious friends all over the place? Love shouldn't make him THIS much of a dull dog.

 

[sleepydog25]

You have some valid points, and my DH also used the dreaded "shark" phrase, but I think that a lot of it was meant to be tongue-in-cheek homage, both to past episodes or to films. I think it was supposed to be a gift to the show's fan base -- however misguided that may have been.

Obviously, Paris was a nod to Taken, as I think also was having Christopher Heyerdahl wear that particular style of hair and beard, which strongly resembled the style Neeson wore in Batman Begins. "Dad is a spy" goes way back in this show, to the time in (I think the second season) that Alexis asked if he ever regretted not knowing, and Castle tells her that not knowing means that he can pretend anything he wants to, including that Dad is a master spy. The whole thing with the church and the church bells is probably a Hitchcock homage to The Man Who Knew Too Much -- not coincidentally, a story of a man who is mistaken for a spy searching for his child who has been kidnapped by a ring of spies. As for the cage, that was the kind of cage that is used in apartment building basements to lock tenants' possessions, they ship flat, so it would be the easiest way to build a temporary prison cell if you wanted one.

Marlowe said they could only do that once -- meaning putting Alexis in danger and also spending the money to finance filming abroad. In future, I recommend that they stay away from both of those things.

What I've noticed this season and in part of S4 is that Castle has become nearly completely Kate-centric, and it is watering him down. What happened to the guy who had mysterious friends all over the place? Love shouldn't make him THIS much of a dull dog.

Well reasoned, and based on said arguments and my own enjoyment of the show, I'm willing to forgive them as it was, indeed, a very "misguided" episode. I'm surprised Marlowe mentioning the cost since it was obvious most of the scenes were nowhere near Paris. I completely agree with the watered down Castle so far this season (though, ironically, this 2-episode arc righted that ship somewhat). Let's hope the remainder of the season is stronger.

 

[NotUrsula]

Well reasoned, and based on said arguments and my own enjoyment of the show, I'm willing to forgive them as it was, indeed, a very "misguided" episode. I'm surprised Marlowe mentioning the cost since it was obvious most of the scenes were nowhere near Paris. I completely agree with the watered down Castle so far this season (though, ironically, this 2-episode arc righted that ship somewhat). Let's hope the remainder of the season is stronger.

With the exception of the forest, all of the "Paris" exteriors were shot in Paris with a locally-hired second unit crew. Molly Quinn let it slip in a Twitter post that three people from the show went to Paris: Molly, Paul Scott (Fillion's stunt double), and director Rob Bowman. They were there for five days. Entire Castle episodes normally are shot on an 8 day-schedule.

I found it odd that Fillion didn't go himself, because the stunts really were not that dangerous at all (well, at least they wouldn't have been without Molly's spike-heeled boots!), but I suppose that liability insurance and travel costs for him would have been twice as expensive, and there was always the chance that Fillion would be recognizable enough to stop traffic, which would have caused delays and inflated the costs even more.

The "unoccupied 18th century mansion" that the Russians were squatting in was actually an empty house in Beverly Hills, and the office building and underground "mole lair" were built on-set. (For those interested, here are more photos of the mansion as it looks when not hosting a film crew: http://www.planitserver.com/host_10...id2=&id3=&id4=&id5=&id6=&id7=&id8=&id9=&id10=)

 

[sleepydog25]

With the exception of the forest, all of the "Paris" exteriors were shot in Paris with a locally-hired second unit crew. Molly Quinn let it slip in a Twitter post that three people from the show went to Paris: Molly, Paul Scott (Fillion's stunt double), and director Rob Bowman. They were there for five days. Entire Castle episodes normally are shot on an 8 day-schedule.

I found it odd that Fillion didn't go himself, because the stunts really were not that dangerous at all (well, at least they wouldn't have been without Molly's spike-heeled boots!), but I suppose that liability insurance and travel costs for him would have been twice as expensive, and there was always the chance that Fillion would be recognizable enough to stop traffic, which would have caused delays and inflated the costs even more.

The "unoccupied 18th century mansion" that the Russians were squatting in was actually an empty house in Beverly Hills, and the office building and underground "mole lair" were built on-set.

I should have been more specific--it was clear in some scenes with Fillion that they were not actually in Paris. I generalized when what I meant was him, in particular, so I'm not surprised to find he didn't go based on your comments.

 

[lovesmurfs]

I should have been more specific--it was clear in some scenes with Fillion that they were not actually in Paris. I generalized when what I meant was him, in particular, so I'm not surprised to find he didn't go based on your comments.

It actually looked a lot like blue screen (green screen?) behind him.

 

[NotUrsula]

Yes, they used a green screen in a couple of scenes, most obviously in the one where he answers Martha's phone call with the Eiffel visible behind him -- the fade from the green screen still to the moving location footage was unfortunately very noticeable. When I saw that I wondered why they didn't choose to set up that establishing shot from the opposite perspective. It would have worked much better to have had him answer the phone inside a doorway with the interior shot behind him and then have him "turn" in the opposite direction to use footage of Scott's back with the Eiffel visible that way.

BTW, ABC just confirmed that Castle has been officially renewed for a sixth season.

 

[Missy1961]

spoilers:

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mega-Buzz-Once-CSI-Revolution-Spoilers-1061957.aspx

 

[sleepydog25]

Yes, they used a green screen in a couple of scenes, most obviously in the one where he answers Martha's phone call with the Eiffel visible behind him -- the fade from the green screen still to the moving location footage was unfortunately very noticeable. When I saw that I wondered why they didn't choose to set up that establishing shot from the opposite perspective. It would have worked much better to have had him answer the phone inside a doorway with the interior shot behind him and then have him "turn" in the opposite direction to use footage of Scott's back with the Eiffel visible that way.

BTW, ABC just confirmed that Castle has been officially renewed for a sixth season.

Good to hear.

 

[Missy1961]

spoilers:

http://tvline.com/2013/02/28/once-u...ilers/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

And I'm kind of curious where you saw the official word of the renewal. I follow ABC on Twitter and Facebook and didn't see anything. I know a TV website rated Castle's renewal as a "sure thing" but that's the most I've seen.

 

[NotUrsula]

My apologies, it seems that I mis-spoke. It came from someone I trust to be reliable, and I got the impression that it was a more official thing than it actually was. I still think the intel is solid, but it is not official; that was a misunderstanding on my part.

 

[Missy1961]

My apologies, it seems that I mis-spoke. It came from someone I trust to be reliable, and I got the impression that it was a more official thing than it actually was. I still think the intel is solid, but it is not official; that was a misunderstanding on my part.

No worries. I just couldn't figure out how I missed the official word since I follow Marlowe, Nathan Fillion, Stana Katic, etc. on Twitter, and I had been on ABC's website too, plus postings on Facebook.

I do agree that they are a shoe-in for renewal. They just got their highest ratings ever for the 2 part episode (as well as good reviews). But until we hear the official word.....

 

[Missy1961]

Pictures from episode 17:

http://www.wetpaint.com/castle/gall..._medium=fnpg-castle&utm_source=facebook.com#1

 

[NotUrsula]

The "cake spoiler" from the 100th episode hints that it is going to be another Hitchcock homage of sorts. Hint: someone hurts a knee.

(To see the cake spoiler, google Castle 100 cake" and check out the photos.)

 

[Missy1961]

The kiss from "Always" in black and white:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApCgM3ZO1t0&feature=em-uploademail