"Official" 2017 Mickey's Not-So-Scary Halloween Party - Boo to You!

[vinotinto]

Here's a FP+ redemption (coding?) question for you. Are FP+ reservations connected to an individual's ticket entitlement, or are they connected to an individual's MDE (with the number of days of "eligible" ticket entitlements being the maximum number of days that can be booked)? If the first, I can see how this will be enforced. If the 2nd, I don't see how it can be in certain circumstances, even if it is an unintentional perk. Assuming someone is using one MDE (no phantom accounts), and has extra non-party ticket entitlements that can be used to reserve FP+, is the coding set up to stop FP+ redemption when a party ticket was used at the entrance rather than a regular ticket?

Your scenario is that sticking point. The FP FAQ thread might have a definitive answer but here's my thought. If I go and buy a ticket, it will ask me who it belongs to. I have to assign it to a person on my MDE. The ticket entitlement belongs to that person on MDE. Of course it can be switched around if necessary but the profile will show the ticket entitlements. If that profile has multiple tickets at 30 days, they can begin booking FP for those tickets, as it hits 30 days for each one. If it's 60 then length of stay up to 10, I think? My hunch, and it's only a hunch based on SDFP, is that if you redeem only the party ticket, and not a regular ticket, then they could reject the fastpass if you try to redeem it because you are not there on a "valid" entry for FP. Does that make sense? I'm confusing myself even typing it out.

I don't think we have sufficient information to know how it will pan out the day of the FPs or the day after. What we *do* know is that the MNSSHP ticket is not being treated as a regular entry ticket in MDE, otherwise we wouldn't be seeing the issues that we are seeing (having to schedule your other days first, some reporting they can't make FPs if that's the only ticket in the account, some indicating removing of the last day of FPs because of lack of ticket entitlements, etc.). These are all new issues that we did not see last year. It may be just glitchy or it may be that the new limits in place by Disney are meant to include the party tickets too.

I believe that the FPs are tied to the profile, not to a specific ticket. However, let's assume that you enter with the MNSSHP ticket and redeem your FPs in your account. Will this flag your profile for MDE lock out similar to using a FP on a MDE account that did not scan at entry (because the ticket scanned at entry is not a full-entry ticket)? That is what I am not clear on, and would concern me.

 

[vinotinto]

I finally figured out what I was trying to say when I said you needed to have the FP+ attached to the ticket. If you make FP+ with the NE ticket in your profile (no party ticket there), then buy the party ticket later, and prioritize the party ticket for your entry that day, does the system have any way of knowing you made FP+ with a ticket that is not "in the park?"

This is indeed my question. Technically, under the new terms and conditions, you have to scan your valid ticket at entry to redeem the FP+, otherwise the account can be locked. Will scanning the MNSSHP party ticket at entry be considered a valid scan? Or will the MDE account get locked the next day?

 

[jvattes]

. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they restrict party tickets from being able to redeem fastpasses.

Um, they have. That's what this whole thing is about

 

[Roxyfire]

I don't think we have sufficient information to know how it will pan out the day of the FPs or the day after. What we *do* know is that the MNSSHP ticket is not being treated as a regular entry ticket in MDE, otherwise we wouldn't be seeing the issues that we are seeing (having to schedule your other days first, some reporting they can't make FPs if that's the only ticket in the account, some indicating removing of the last day of FPs because of lack of ticket entitlements, etc.). These are all new issues that we did not see last year. It may be just glitchy or it may be that the new limits in place by Disney are meant to include the party tickets too.

I believe that the FPs are tied to the profile, not to a specific ticket. However, let's assume that you enter with the MNSSHP ticket and redeem your FPs in your account. Will this flag your profile for MDE lock out similar to using a FP on a MDE account that did not scan at entry (because the ticket scanned at entry is not a full-entry ticket)? That is what I am not clear on, and would concern me.

That's my thought exactly, but for whatever reason, people still seem to be bewildered about it. I can't explain it any other way. But you do need the ticket entitlements to make a FP in advance. So, in years past, they have been able to do this because they were not distinguishing between regular entry and hard tickets. Now, they probably are. The scenario others describes sounds a lot like what you said. Thats why I said, if someone has FP on their last day that they do not want to lose and they cannot add days, then just play it safe folks. It's not worth it for a FP on a party night when the lines are low.

Um, they have. That's what this whole thing is about

I'm not sure if you're intending this, but you're coming off as rather rude. I'm trying to explain this as nicely as I can to folks who might be upset about the change. Thanks.

 

[jvattes]

That's my thought exactly, but for whatever reason, people still seem to be bewildered about it. I can't explain it any other way. But you do need the ticket entitlements to make a FP in advance. So, in years past, they have been able to do this because they were not distinguishing between regular entry and hard tickets. Now, they probably are. The scenario others describes sounds a lot like what you said. Thats why I said, if someone has FP on their last day that they do not want to lose and they cannot add days, then just play it safe folks. It's not worth it for a FP on a party night when the lines are low.



I'm not sure if you're intending this, but you're coming off as rather rude. I'm trying to explain this as nicely as I can to folks who might be upset about the change. Thanks.

Not intending that by any means. I am still confused by your post. Are you posting to me or in general?

 

[Cluelyss]

Um, they have. That's what this whole thing is about

TECHNICALLY they haven't restricted redemption at all at this point....only booking. For some folks. I think the question was, for those that may have slipped through the cracks (or whatever) and their FP remain intact, will they be able to use them??

 

[jvattes]

TECHNICALLY they haven't restricted redemption at all at this point....only booking. For some folks. I think the question was, for those that may have slipped through the cracks (or whatever) and their FP remain intact, will they be able to use them??

I suppose that's true. I could not get them to nail down an official ruling on it.

 

[efoote01]

Is there a release of info from Disney before the party? we are going to the 1st one so I want to know when to start looking for this.

Thanks

 

[BigGoof81]

That's my thought exactly, but for whatever reason, people still seem to be bewildered about it. I can't explain it any other way. But you do need the ticket entitlements to make a FP in advance. So, in years past, they have been able to do this because they were not distinguishing between regular entry and hard tickets. Now, they probably are. The scenario others describes sounds a lot like what you said. Thats why I said, if someone has FP on their last day that they do not want to lose and they cannot add days, then just play it safe folks. It's not worth it for a FP on a party night when the lines are low.



I'm not sure if you're intending this, but you're coming off as rather rude. I'm trying to explain this as nicely as I can to folks who might be upset about the change. Thanks.

I thought the same thing in regards to FPs on party nights.
Last November at MVMCP the lines were almost non-existent...other than 7DMT.
But there were so many things to do in a good amount of time that getting in everything didn't seem like a burden.
We actually did a few rides twice...including Peter Pan!!

So while I am all for getting in as much you can...getting most bang for your buck with FP+, it really isn't an enormous issue on party nights....

....but different folks might have different experiences.

 

[Roxyfire]

Not intending that by any means. I am still confused by your post. Are you posting to me or in general?

I was actually quoting another user as well. Who actually summed up my thoughts better than I could. The change could have been unintentional, as one person got some FP back. The problem is it's all a question at this moment until there's some sort of answer.

 

[DonaldDuck77]

I finally figured out what I was trying to say when I said you needed to have the FP+ attached to the ticket. If you make FP+ with the NE ticket in your profile (no party ticket there), then buy the party ticket later, and prioritize the party ticket for your entry that day, does the system have any way of knowing you made FP+ with a ticket that is not "in the park?"

That's the question with no known answer...yet.

 

[vinotinto]

That's my thought exactly, but for whatever reason, people still seem to be bewildered about it.

I think I'm completely bewildered by it because of the lack of communication from Disney. One CM will contradict another CM and Tech Support will contradict the Guest Service folks. They haven't officially said we *can* make FPs, but unlike the clear terms and conditions regarding the other issues, they have not said we *cannot* make FPs. And their strategy for MNSSHP is different than MVMCP.

In any case, too many funky variables for me, so that's why I deleted my MNSSHP day FPs. We will probably have a more relaxing entry anyways just focusing on dinner, etc.

 

[DonaldDuck77]

Your scenario is that sticking point. The FP FAQ thread might have a definitive answer but here's my thought. If I go and buy a ticket, it will ask me who it belongs to. I have to assign it to a person on my MDE. The ticket entitlement belongs to that person on MDE. Of course it can be switched around if necessary but the profile will show the ticket entitlements. If that profile has multiple tickets at 30 days, they can begin booking FP for those tickets, as it hits 30 days for each one. If it's 60 then length of stay up to 10, I think? My hunch, and it's only a hunch based on SDFP, is that if you redeem only the party ticket, and not a regular ticket, then they could reject the fastpass if you try to redeem it because you are not there on a "valid" entry for FP. Does that make sense? I'm confusing myself even typing it out.

No kidding, right? So, your hunch right now is that it is tied to the ticket, not to the MDE. I am going to go ahead and book (still have 15 days until my day), and then just wait and see how it goes for everyone. I will have no issues with FP+ reservations, but might with FP+ redemption. This is crazy.

 

[Cluelyss]

Is there a release of info from Disney before the party? we are going to the 1st one so I want to know when to start looking for this.

Thanks

The map will usually be released a day or two prior, and any character changes will be known (additions or deletions) but that's about it. The maps won't even show you who is meeting where, just what locations have characters. We rely on you first party folks for all our intel!

 

[BigGoof81]

I think I'm completely bewildered by it because of the lack of communication from Disney. One CM will contradict another CM and Tech Support will contradict the Guest Service folks. They haven't officially said we *can* make FPs, but unlike the clear terms and conditions regarding the other issues, they have not said we *cannot* make FPs. And their strategy for MNSSHP is different than MVMCP.

In any case, too many funky variables for me, so that's why I deleted my MNSSHP tickets. We will probably have a more relaxing entry anyways just focusing on dinner, etc.

oh dear God...
The cycle of confusion is never ending.lol
We need Good Will Hunting to figure this algorithm out for us...

 

[magickingdomprincess]

For everyone's sake I hope we get some clarity on the FP issues sometime soon, or at the very least at the first party. I also really hope all of these discussions don't suddenly vanish and we're all left scratching our heads, similar to what happened with other FP discussions recently.

 

[DonaldDuck77]

I don't think we have sufficient information to know how it will pan out the day of the FPs or the day after. What we *do* know is that the MNSSHP ticket is not being treated as a regular entry ticket in MDE, otherwise we wouldn't be seeing the issues that we are seeing (having to schedule your other days first, some reporting they can't make FPs if that's the only ticket in the account, some indicating removing of the last day of FPs because of lack of ticket entitlements, etc.). These are all new issues that we did not see last year. It may be just glitchy or it may be that the new limits in place by Disney are meant to include the party tickets too.

I believe that the FPs are tied to the profile, not to a specific ticket. However, let's assume that you enter with the MNSSHP ticket and redeem your FPs in your account. Will this flag your profile for MDE lock out similar to using a FP on a MDE account that did not scan at entry (because the ticket scanned at entry is not a full-entry ticket)? That is what I am not clear on, and would concern me.

If I never looked at this thread (vast majority of party goers), and I made FP+ reservations the same way I have in the past 3 years using party ticket entry only on a non-phantom MDE account (maybe not majority, but any who happen to see read a planning blog with this perk shown), I would be pretty upset if attempting to redeem FP+ resulted in MDE lock out.

 

[kizmet311]

This is so cute! I think you should wear exactly what you would be comfortable in. There's also lots of room for accessories to do some work- maybe some pink or purple earrings? I've even seen some that are shaped like teapots!

Thanks! I can buy the shorts and fascinator pretty cheap. Maybe a pink or blue scarf for a belt and some cute gold accessories like you said. Is it overkill to wear a Mrs. Potts shirt or is the point of Disney bounding to not make it so obvious?

 

[yoda22]

My 5yo DD will be going to BBB at 5:15 the day of the party and "should" be dressing up as Belle for the party. I have already purchased her Belle dress, tiara, wand, and a pair of gold Belle crocs (assumed those would be comfortable for walking around for just the evening). Of course, I am hoping that she doesn't see all of the other princess dresses and beg for something different. I honestly wanted to let her pick something out at BBB and she could wear her Belle costume the next morning for breakfast at Cindy's, but DH was opposed to buying multiple costumes. I kind of wish I had planned costumes out a little better, because DD is getting a Moana costume for her birthday and we could have all dressed up as Moana characters for MNSSHP (more like Disney bounding, though, not actual costumes). But I only got BBB reservations on the day of the Halloween parties and I really want her to get to experience that and it's doubtful I could get a BBB reservation now for our breakfast day at Cindy's, although I haven't tried. It would seem kind of pointless to do BBB to dress up as Moana - they don't exactly go together, lol.

Anyway, if things go as currently planned and DD is Belle/does BBB the day of the party, then I am thinking about trying to convince DH/stepD to do Disney bounding with me. Most likely DH would be the Beast or Gaston, I think I would choose Mrs. Potts, and then let stepD choose Beast/Gaston/Lumiere/Cogsworth most likely. DH didn't say no when I mentioned it last night, so I'm hoping he'll go for it, lol. I mean, at least I'm not asking him to wear a true costume.

We have a 5:00 BBB appointment for our 4yo DD on a party night, and she wants to be "witch" Minnie. We are splurging on this BBB experience and getting the Castle package (we figure she'll wear it for actual Halloween this year, too, and maybe next year, haha!), but the last time we went we brought a dress with us and it worked out great. I do worry that they may not have the witch costume in stock in her size when we go, so I'm contemplating purchasing the witch Minnie costume ahead of our trip if they sell the same dress at the Disney Store or through the parks app. It's crazy how quickly BBB appointments fill up, I probably sound so desperate on the phone at 7am 180 days out!

 

[Roxyfire]

No kidding, right? So, your hunch right now is that it is tied to the ticket, not to the MDE. I am going to go ahead and book (still have 15 days until my day), and then just wait and see how it goes for everyone. I will have no issues with FP+ reservations, but might with FP+ redemption. This is crazy.

No sorry my hunch is that it really does depend on what the profile has on it. Which is why I have a profile with only a party ticket separate from my regular profile. What tickets it's showing is what allows you to book FP, but it's not going to know whether or not you will use all your days/tickets available.

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