OFFICIAL 2014 WDW Marathon Countdown: WE DID IT! Congrats everyone!

[steves1019]

Opinion needed. I know this isn't a medical board, but I'll see what you say. I did 7 miles at race pace yesterday. It was windy here and a very hard run. Today my hip hurts a bit. Nothing too bad but first discomfort I have felt since I started training. I'm supposed to do an easy 14 today, 60-90 seconds slower per mile. Do I go for it and just push through any discomfort? Do I go for it and stop if the discomfort doesn't loosen? Or do I just rest it today? I'm doing the Higdon intermediate 1 training plan. Any thoughts are appreciated.

 

[cewait]

Opinion needed. I know this isn't a medical board, but I'll see what you say. I did 7 miles at race pace yesterday. It was windy here and a very hard run. Today my hip hurts a bit. Nothing too bad but first discomfort I have felt since I started training. I'm supposed to do an easy 14 today, 60-90 seconds slower per mile. Do I go for it and just push through any discomfort? Do I go for it and stop if the discomfort doesn't loosen? Or do I just rest it today? I'm doing the Higdon intermediate 1 training plan. Any thoughts are appreciated.

First, I assume that you have run 2-5 marathons prior to this one. If not, fall back to more of a beginner plan with no saturday runs.

You do not describe where the pain is but I am betting that it is almost dead square outside of the hip and possibly radiating down. If this is the case your IT bands are tight and possibly inflamed. If you do not stretch or even more importantly roll your legs and back on a foam roller...start.

There are a lot of great stretches for the IT band. I urge you to not stretch pre-run; rather, make it post run. If you just feel the need to stretch pre-rain, run about 10 minutes then stop and stretch so that the tissue has a chance to warm.

If your hip is aching in a different spot you need to get to a doctor if the pain worsens. For today, assuming you read this before your run, head out the door and enjoy the run. Chances are that you will loosen up in 1-2 miles and then have a great run. If you do not feel like it is feeling better after a mile or so, head back to the house.

 

[steves1019]

First, I assume that you have run 2-5 marathons prior to this one. If not, fall back to more of a beginner plan with no saturday runs. You do not describe where the pain is but I am betting that it is almost dead square outside of the hip and possibly radiating down. If this is the case your IT bands are tight and possibly inflamed. If you do not stretch or even more importantly roll your legs and back on a foam roller...start. There are a lot of great stretches for the IT band. I urge you to not stretch pre-run; rather, make it post run. If you just feel the need to stretch pre-rain, run about 10 minutes then stop and stretch so that the tissue has a chance to warm. If your hip is aching in a different spot you need to get to a doctor if the pain worsens. For today, assuming you read this before your run, head out the door and enjoy the run. Chances are that you will loosen up in 1-2 miles and then have a great run. If you do not feel like it is feeling better after a mile or so, head back to the house.

Thanks coach.!The tightness/discomfort is right on the outside of the joint itself, no radiation down. I've had IT band issues in the past (lack of training and then running too much) and it doesn't feel like that. My 7 miles was all on the road and I didn't switch sides of the road much so with the canter of the road my right leg/hip (point of issue) was on the high side, I wonder if that is what did it? This will be my first marathon, though I have been very active for the past 8 years with a strong focus on running the past 2 years. Though my longest distance to date has been the Disney 1/2 last year with many 11-12 miles runs mixed in there. Until now I Have felt great, and this just feels like some tightness. I was waiting for the temp to warm up a bit. I'm going to take a run around noon, taking it very easy and hoping it loosens up. If not I'll cut the run short and rest it. I do stretch pre and post run. I just can't not stretch before physical activity, it's just something that makes me feel more ready (maybe mental, but whatever works right? Lol), I do warm up a bit before stretching though.
Ok, long enough dialogue. I appreciated the input! These boards are so useful and fun! Thanks again!

 

[WhereInFlorida]

Did the Miami Beach Halloween half marathon today,using it like a training run for the full Disney in January.It was a pretty interesting run,I did the ToT earlier in the month which was great with tons of people dressed up but this race had like 1/5th of the runners ToT had,probably around 2,000 but it seemed like 95% of the runners were in costume and being Miami Beach some of them were pretty out there.Also there was a last second change in the course due to construction and we ended up running about a mile plus of the race in the sand right on the beach,supposedly the hard packed sand but a lot of it wasn't too hard packed,is running a race on sand normal?But overall the temperature and breeze from the ocean made for a really nice run,I think I'm adding it to my yearly races.

Did a 5k, all on the beach which was a nice change of pace. Although the jellyfish were in and had to pay attention to avoid, stepped twice on one and both times almost slipped from it.

 

[steves1019]

First, I assume that you have run 2-5 marathons prior to this one. If not, fall back to more of a beginner plan with no saturday runs. You do not describe where the pain is but I am betting that it is almost dead square outside of the hip and possibly radiating down. If this is the case your IT bands are tight and possibly inflamed. If you do not stretch or even more importantly roll your legs and back on a foam roller...start. There are a lot of great stretches for the IT band. I urge you to not stretch pre-run; rather, make it post run. If you just feel the need to stretch pre-rain, run about 10 minutes then stop and stretch so that the tissue has a chance to warm. If your hip is aching in a different spot you need to get to a doctor if the pain worsens. For today, assuming you read this before your run, head out the door and enjoy the run. Chances are that you will loosen up in 1-2 miles and then have a great run. If you do not feel like it is feeling better after a mile or so, head back to the house.

Got all 14 in. Hip loosened up about a half mile in. Actually feels better now than before I ran. A bit pooped out but glad I got it in

 

[RnbwSktles]

Opinion needed. I know this isn't a medical board, but I'll see what you say. I did 7 miles at race pace yesterday. It was windy here and a very hard run. Today my hip hurts a bit. Nothing too bad but first discomfort I have felt since I started training. I'm supposed to do an easy 14 today, 60-90 seconds slower per mile. Do I go for it and just push through any discomfort? Do I go for it and stop if the discomfort doesn't loosen? Or do I just rest it today? I'm doing the Higdon intermediate 1 training plan. Any thoughts are appreciated.

My hip used to hurt all the time until I started running down the center of the road (wherever possible) instead of on the side. Hasn't hurt since!

 

[steves1019]

My hip used to hurt all the time until I started running down the center of the road (wherever possible) instead of on the side. Hasn't hurt since!

Thanks! I think that was it. I have been running on a flat paved trail around a local lake, this past weekend I needed to run on local streets due to timing and I didn't switch sides enough. I still feel some tightness but it's much better. Hopefully I can do mostly the paved trail going forward. Better for the body and view

 

[cherrybomb11]

I did my 15 mile run over the weekend. I can't believe I did it! I felt ok the rest of the day, but the day after I felt like my gas tank was running on empty. I'm still nervous about how I'm going to be walking the parks afterwards!

 

[megsablue]

I did my 15 mile run over the weekend. I can't believe I did it! I felt ok the rest of the day, but the day after I felt like my gas tank was running on empty. I'm still nervous about how I'm going to be walking the parks afterwards!

Congratulations, that's awesome! I'm guessing we'll all be walking the parks very slowly

 

[TheIndyRowes]

I see all these posts of everyone doIng 12, 13 miles already and hubby and I are only at 7 or 8. We're gonna die. 10 min miles too

 

[WhereInFlorida]

I see all these posts of everyone doIng 12, 13 miles already and hubby and I are only at 7 or 8. We're gonna die. 10 min miles too

Time to work up the miles, would up the long run in 2 mile increments with recovery week every 4th week (8, 10, 12, 8, 12, 14, 16, etc...). Slow it down and increase the mileage, the long runs are not about pace.

 

[DoctorK]

Time to work up the miles, would up the long run in 2 mile increments with recovery week every 4th week (8, 10, 12, 8, 12, 14, 16, etc...). Slow it down and increase the mileage, the long runs are not about pace.

There are only 9 weeks (9 saturdays) left before the race. Hard to balance the need to increase mileage with the risk of injury from ramping up mileage too quickly. This is similar to the question posted earlier about how to train for a full in 12 weeks.

 

[WhereInFlorida]

There are only 9 weeks (9 saturdays) left before the race. Hard to balance the need to increase mileage with the risk of injury from ramping up mileage too quickly. This is similar to the question posted earlier about how to train for a full in 12 weeks.

10 min/mi pace for a long run would equate to under a 9 min/mi pace for marathon which is going to be impossible given the endurance. Slow the pace down considerably to ramp up the mileage on your long runs and that will minimize injuries.

At this point getting up to a couple 16 or 18 milers in before tapering would be great.

 

[Drgirl]

Help me Goofy pro's. Doing my first goofy. Did the full at disney last year. 5 hours and 55 seconds! Really mad that I didn't get in under the 5. Have been doing well with training and had gotten up to 18 miles. Was planning on doing 18 miles yesterday and my knee flared up for the first time ever. Had done 10 miles the day before.

Feeling very unsettled right now because all I can think of today is what if I don't get in under 5 hours. What if my knee flares up at mile 12 of the full.
This is supposed to feel fun but I am taking all of the magic out of it.

I want to get in under 5 hours but know I should throw time goals away because it is Disney and because it isn't just a full.


The mental side of training is always harder than the physical training.

Someone please remind me that I am not going to the olympics regardless of my train and that times don't matter!!!!!


Trying not to panic about all the what if's on race day. What if my knee hurts, what if my bowels act up, what if the weather is life last year!!!!!

 

[TheIndyRowes]

We are doing the half. So 7 or 8 miles right now. I'd figured were doing ok.

 

[BuckeyeBama]

Help me Goofy pro's. Doing my first goofy. Did the full at disney last year. 5 hours and 55 seconds! Really mad that I didn't get in under the 5. Have been doing well with training and had gotten up to 18 miles. Was planning on doing 18 miles yesterday and my knee flared up for the first time ever. Had done 10 miles the day before.

Feeling very unsettled right now because all I can think of today is what if I don't get in under 5 hours. What if my knee flares up at mile 12 of the full.
This is supposed to feel fun but I am taking all of the magic out of it.

I want to get in under 5 hours but know I should throw time goals away because it is Disney and because it isn't just a full.


The mental side of training is always harder than the physical training.

Someone please remind me that I am not going to the olympics regardless of my train and that times don't matter!!!!!


Trying not to panic about all the what if's on race day. What if my knee hurts, what if my bowels act up, what if the weather is life last year!!!!!

My advice is simple - trust in your training and don't worry about things out of your control. Relax and let it be fun. Otherwise, what is the point?

 

[bumbershoot]

Feeling very unsettled right now because all I can think of today is what if I don't get in under 5 hours. ...


I want to get in under 5 hours but know I should throw time goals away because it is Disney and because it isn't just a full.
...

Someone please remind me that I am not going to the olympics regardless of my train and that times don't matter!!!!!

You're not going to the Olympics. Time doesn't matter as long as you aren't swept. It'll be OK. It's not just the full.

OK?

We are doing the half. So 7 or 8 miles right now. I'd figured were doing ok.

People in this particular thread are focusing on the Full. (I read here because it's inspiring and interesting)

Go here for specific discussion on the Half! I'm doing the Half and this weekend the Galloway plan had me doing a 9.5. You are only a tiny bit "behind" for the Half (and it's probable that other plans put you at a perfect spot), so join that specific discussion.

 

[buckeyecinderella]

I am training for my first Goofy too. Ran the full last year too, although my time was much slower than yours. I really just want to finish healthy in the allotted time. This will be a challenge in itself for me! I'm trying to figure out how to manage these two races. I am trying to tread that fine line between getting in enough miles yet keeping some nagging aches and pains at bay. What concerns me most at the moment is how to recover after the half and feel energetic enough to get up at 2am the next morning to run a full!

I ran my first back to back "longish" runs over the weekend. 6.5 Saturday and 13 Sunday. I took both very slow. Strangely the 13 mile run pace was 30 sec/mile faster and I felt better afterwards. But still, I need to figure out how to rest and recover better in the afternoon because I awoke feeling pretty sluggish this AM.

I'm going to try drinking an electrolyte drink after next long combo and eating sooner after finishing. Maybe im not eating enough or getting enough fluids post run. I think next it will be a 7.5/15 back to back so I'll see if that change will help.

 

[DOOM1001]

You're not in the Olympics,just finish happy,healthy and upright.I did my first ever full at Disney in January in just under 6 hours,I know that's not fast but between the heat and a couple of minor cramps in my thighs and that I basically didn't sleep I chose to walk a good amount from mile 17 on but I finished it and felt pretty good afterwards.I just did a half in 2:26 and even though doubled up that would be a sub 5 hour full I have no interest in finishing that fast.Yes I would like to maybe finish in 5:30 or less but first and foremost is to not get hurt or sick,finishing the race running and having a good pic flashed of you at the finish line.

 

[goofeygirl]

I am training for my first Goofy too. Ran the full last year too, although my time was much slower than yours. I really just want to finish healthy in the allotted time. This will be a challenge in itself for me! I'm trying to figure out how to manage these two races. I am trying to tread that fine line between getting in enough miles yet keeping some nagging aches and pains at bay. What concerns me most at the moment is how to recover after the half and feel energetic enough to get up at 2am the next morning to run a full!

I ran my first back to back "longish" runs over the weekend. 6.5 Saturday and 13 Sunday. I took both very slow. Strangely the 13 mile run pace was 30 sec/mile faster and I felt better afterwards. But still, I need to figure out how to rest and recover better in the afternoon because I awoke feeling pretty sluggish this AM.

I'm going to try drinking an electrolyte drink after next long combo and eating sooner after finishing. Maybe im not eating enough or getting enough fluids post run. I think next it will be a 7.5/15 back to back so I'll see if that change will help.

I have a plan for this...because I did the Goofy this year and what you wrote was my fear too. Getting up early and no sleep...but this is what happened to me this year:

It was Thursday when I arrived so I picked up my gear plus I was doing the
5k as well...which was the unofficial Dopey at the time. I did not sleep at all that night. We all went out to diner...couldn't sleep, too excited. Must have slept two hours perhaps at best.
After the 5k I was pumped...and nervous. Was not tired. Too excited. That night (the nite before the half) I was, once again, up all night. I was upset at myself for not being tired! I just wanted to get rest but couldn't...too excited. Once again, maybe two or three hours sleep...then I was up for the half in darkness.

Okay so now it is after the half...coming towards dinnertime. It is the nite before the full marathon. I am feeling the effects of a lack of sleep for days now. I did book a massage (which had nothing to do with getting sleep)...it was about 5pm or so...I went back to my room and went to bed and fell asleep! I was so tired...because even the night before I arrived in Disney I didnt' sleep...so I really had minimal minimal sleep for Wed nite, Thurs nite, Fri nite....I went to sleep at maybe 5pm or a bit afterward and didn't wake up until 3am...when I set the alarm...I felt great!!!!!

My biggest concern was getting sleep for the full...and I did.