Off to California

MikeJ

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We're off to LA this Saturday for a week in California. We used our DVC points to book at stay at the Grand Californian (concierge, no less :thumbsup2 ) and used Air Miles to book a rental car and for our DL passes. We're planning on 3 or 4 days at DL/DCA as well as a day at USH. We're also planning on a couple of non-park days - maybe a beach day and/or a tour of LA/Hollywood/Beverly Hills.

As DS18 is off to university in the fall (Brock) this may be the last family vacation together a while. If anyone has any must-see ideas for us while we're out there please let me know.

- Mike
 
Hey Mike we are off to DL July 18th-25th. This is our 3rd trip. One place I think is cool to check out is the Huntington Beach Pier. There is Ruby's Dinner at the very end it is just too cool. It's an old fashion Dinner with the flavoured Cokes and a great view of the ocean. Plus the beach there is great. Have a great trip and don't steal all the fastpasses eh ;)
 
Have a great trip - I just booked a trip to California in September for my parents - they are headed down to help my great aunt celebrate her 104th birthday. Wish I could go too but 2 trips within 1 month would just be a bit too much.
 
Have a great time! We are going back to our favourite place soon too! A really nice thing to do is drive the coast down to San Diego and stop along the way. Newport Beach is lovely. You can also take the train roundtrip down the coast also.
 

We will be there in Aug. for 2 weeks! So looking forward to it!
I picked upi the Lonely Planet Guide for CA which is really good!
Enjoy your trip. We looked into the tours in Hollywood. You might want to check out starline tours. They have a web site...
 
Have a great time!! Can't wait to see you trip report!

We leave for LA and San Diego in August! Yippee!:)
 
I spent last Tuesday at DL and DCA, had a great time.

I won a contest in a radio to go to Vegas for 3 nights.
On Tuesday (around 4:30 AM), I left Vegas and drove to Anaheim and staying in the parks from 9:00 AM to midnight.
The parks were really crowded.
I saw everything I wanted, though, except for the Finding Nemo sub ride.
Huge lines (event at 11:45 PM) and no fastpass available.

My main advice for DCA is to use the single rider line whenever possible, which most big attractions have. I saw people waiting over 45 minutes to ride Screaming, for example, I went on it in less than 5 minutes.

Enjoy....
 
We made the hike out to California for March break -- which is off-season over there. This is a long trip report I did for friends & family giving my opinions of DL versus WDW.

My husband travels in the US for work, so our flights and hotels were completely free on points -- we thought we'd give the west coast a try. My DDs were just turned 5 and 7 at the time.

Here it is: :)

"We're back, and I thought I would give you my thoughts on California & Disneyland.

First of all, my family is really schedule-bound. The girls go to bed at the same time each night (even in summer) and get up at the same time. The time difference was a big problem for us. It was a 5-hour flight there, and then there's a 3-hour time difference. It took us days to get over our exhaustion. The first morning the girls were up at 4 a.m. and the parks didn't open until 10. Needless to say, we were tired before we began. So, for that reason alone I would refrain from travelling to a different time zone with children in the near future.

We had gorgeous weather. Our temps were in the 80s everyday. It was actually warmer in California the week we were in Anaheim then it was in Florida. The bonus though... NO humidity... ZERO. And, for the 2 weeks we were there, it did not rain at all. This was actually a problem for the locals because they have not received rain for the entire month of March. But, for us... great vacation weather. It was cooler when the sun went down, but we were still in shorts with a light jacket.

The sky was pure blue with not a cloud in sight. It felt like you were on a movie set with a painted blue dome for the sky. It was surreal. Also, there was plenty of palm trees, and mountain ranges were everywhere you look. I was pleasantly surprised by the beauty of the surroundings. Even our trip from LA airport to Anaheim was open and bright - not very city-like at all. California was very laid-back, and not as touristy as Florida. The locals were extremely friendly. The beaches were amazing. Definitely worthwhile to visit that state.

Disneyland
Now, here's where things definitely vary. Whereas WDW is a resort destination onto itself, Disneyland is an attraction for California visitors, much like Wonderland. It's a place to visit but not the main goal. Unlike Florida where you feel "Disney" from the moment you land the plane, drive along the highway, and see those welcome signs... there was no such feeling in CA. Disneyland is located right off a main street, right beside motels and McDonalds. There's no walking away from the real-world. There's no feeling of escaping. There's no magic really.

On our last day, we went to a brunch at the Disney hotels which are located on a Disney-made street west of the parks. If you flew into LAX, and only went straight to your Disney hotel, and never left the property... you might get a glimmer of the Disney resort feel as it was prettier on that side. So, if anyone wants to visit in the future and didn't want anything but Disney, I would highly recommend staying at their hotels even though they are $300/night. Otherwise, the motels are actually closer to the gates for way less.

The nice thing about DL is that the main park and the second park (Disney California Adventure) and Downtown DIsney are all walking distance to each other, and share the same entrance hub. No dealings with trams/monorails/buses. All the tickets are hoppers so you can go from park to park just like you would go from Tomorrowland to Adventureland at MK. It's that easy. Also, Build-a-Bear at DD is a huge attraction for my girls -- their highlight of the trip.

It was off-season when we went so Disneyland was only open 10-8 and DCA was open 10-6. The parks open exactly at 10, not a minute early creating congestion in the entrance hub to both parks. This is the only place where it was better to show up a half hour after opening so that you could just walk in.

In regards to the Disneyland park specifically, it's definitely showing it's age. Most of the attractions are outdoors, and so are the lines with no line theming that Disney is famous for. The park is tiny compared to MK in WDW but there are much more rides. The walkways are much more narrow, the rides are closer together, and the lines are outside -- all this creates a false sense of congestion. We went during a quiet time with no rain. I wouldn't like to see the walkways during the summer! Also, the bathrooms were very dingy and spread out. There were rusty, broken elements in view. Also, construction and tarps are in view throughout the day - something WDW tries to do only at night.

That being said, if DL can't change their size, they definitely put their focus in the rides. They were far better than the MK ones. "Dark" rides were actually dark. They didn't stop every 2 seconds for loading problems. Fantasyland, in particular, has way more rides and they are literally a few steps from each other. This park definitely had young children in mind. Also, a benefit of having outdoor lines is you can see exactly how long they are - no WDW trickery of moving from one loading station to another!

Rides that were much better at DL: Peter Pan (it was our favourite - a great dark room with stars that makes you feel like you are flying THROUGH them), It's a Small World, Space Mountain (Sarah loved it - Red Hot Chili Peppers soundtrack to it made it fun, again completely dark not like WDW), Pirates, Buzz Lightyear, Autotopia, Toontown (a whole town!), Jungle Cruise, Matterhorn, Thunder Run (it goes through dark tunnels). Claire loved an Alice in Wonderland caterpillar ride which is not at WDW.

Not as good as WDW: Winnie-the-pooh, Tiki Room (yes, the update is better), Innoventions (at Epcot), castle. The castle is rather pathetic... more like a hut. Definitely not something that makes you want to run down main street.

In general, the CMs were extremely friendly and talkative. The restaurants were more varied and had good food choices.

Oh, one other big difference. I expected to see lots of characters around. There were none. You could line up for Mickey in toontown, and Winnie-the-pooh in front of his ride. We did come across goofy and Peter Pan walking around, but there were never characters on Main street at opening or closing. Thankfully, I had booked 2 character meals or the girls wouldn't have ahad much for their autograph books.

Oh.. I almost forgot.. We got "dreamed". On our first day, we got Million Dream Pin Lanyards with 2 pins as we walked off the Casey Train ride. That's it -- never saw prizes being given out for the rest of our stay although we did see a lot of people with dream fastpasses -- kind of funny because DL only has five fastpass rides, and only 2 had the fastpass lines working the week we were there.

California Disney Adventure
This park is not popular with the locals and is not profitable for Disney. That being said, we really enjoyed this park. It reminds me in scope to Disney MGM. Here's where you see what Disney park builders learned over the years -- super-large walkways, lots of open spaces and greenery, indoor lines with theming, lots of bright colours, and CLEAN. After our first day at DL, we spent the next 2 days here. The girls loved the Monster Inc ride they had here. The kids even got to scream it open -- they were the first bunch in line. More interaction at this park, and HSM (High School Musical for those that don't have girls) pep rally which got the girls dancing in the street :-) The water raft ride is not as good as Kali Rapids at AK, but overall a comfortable, fun little park.

San Diego - The one thing I learned on this trip is that Toronto really is first-class with its attactions. San Diego is known for its zoo, museums, and Seaworld. Well, Seaworld was really disappointing compared to the Florida version. Considering it's built on the ocean, you'd think you could actually see it! The Zoo was nice and the pens are designed so the animals are right up front (they have no space) but the park is rather small. We really under-appreciate our Zoo, ROM, and Science Centre. When compared to other cities, they really are world-class.

Legoland - This was a fun park for kids under 9. Not much for thrill rides, but really beautifully done with lots of greenery, shade, and interactive entertainment for the youngins. I'd highly recommend.

The beaches were beautiful. The first beach we visited was a traditional sand one with surfers. The girls collected seashells. The second beach was at La Jolla which is known for its rocky beaches and caves. Here, they could see sea lions on the rocks right below them, see sea creatures in tide pools, and swim in a small cove. That was our highlight of San Diego.

Overall, we had a relaxing family trip. No night life - all the parks closed by 6 pm (except DL at 8). I'd say that if anyone was planning a trip to DL, I would plan on 3-4 days at the park, add in a down day, and a day trip to Legoland or Universal or Knotts. Maybe explore Hollywood if you had older kids. I wouldn't bother driving down to San Diego to stay.

Although I loved the California views, I'll stick to the resort magic of WDW next time. Maybe we'll even stay on site this time ... :-)"
 
Amw that was an interesting trip report. What I enjoyed most was what your family prefers and likes. What is interesting is all the reasons you appear to not like DL are the reasons why we keep going back.

-The time difference. This is exactly how we felt when we went to WDW. We were exhausted the first three days due to the time difference so DL is an obvious choice for us. Flights are quicker and cheaper from Calgary. Humidity is miserable for anyone who does not like and DL is nice and dry! Coming from a high elevation with mountains I felt Florida was really flat and swampy looking.
Immersion. We like the feeling that you can get away from DL at the end of the day. Although staying onsite at WDW is more convenient you feel like you are at an all-inclusive where you really dont get to appreciate the rest of your surroundings, the food and its people. Eg:in 2004 If you cross the street from 7-11 and go to the Ramada you will find some of the best East Indian food you have ever eaten! Therefore DL is our preference there also. We are staying at the GC in November. Our trip to WDW did teach us that staying onsite makes for a much better Disney experience. We felt over saturated at the end of a WDW day. I also did not like spending a lot of wasted time getting from one park to another by bus where at DL one can walk. It really is a shame you felt Disneyland has no magic because it is located off a main road. We feel exactly the opposite. This is the park Walt walked in. The magic is everywhere around you! This was Walt's dream! The castle is beautiful and charming. Bigger does not always mean better and we felt exactly that at WDW.
-you felt DL was showing it's age. Well considering it's age we think the opposite. DL is the cleanest park we have ever encountered ever. When we were last there in 2004 it was spotless. Chrome was shining, painting was being done etc! The park is smaller and we feel the narrow walkways are charming and add to the old school magical character of the park. We felt WDW was very dirty and run down looking. The sheer size of it however makes it almost impossible to maintain it to DL standards. IMO the rides at WDW do not even compare to DL/DCA. They are far superior at DL/DCA.
-I agree sea world was an expensive disappointment. Never have done lego land. We just enjoy driving down the coast and stopping along the way.

Each family has their Disney preferences. Your family prefers WDW and ours prefers DL and DCA. What is really great is that people all over the world enjoy Disney magic in their own way. Thanks for your trip report!
 














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