Odd question from an American new q post 91

[almburr]

Okay I was thinking the other day when I was helping DD with history.

Here we celebrate the 4th of July a historical victory here.

Now is the 4th of July a black day in British history, and does it come up in your history school books?

Like I stated, Its an Odd question.

 

[hildasmuriel]

No, the date does not register with most British people, rather than a vague "oh that's American Indepdendence Day".

In History lessons, students are taught about the War of Independence, but not about a particular date, nor is it taught that it was a sad day in our history. More likely nowadays they will be taught that we should be ashamed of ever having been in charge over there and should hang our imperialist heads in shame........ and possibly make financial reparations too! We Brits are expected to be ashamed of our imperialistic past. (I wasn't alive then, so I feel no shame )

 

[paulh]

not rearly celibrated as a loss,its just tought as a day when you got your indiependance.there are countless contrys througth the last few hundred years that have gained this from england.
A more inportant date for us is the 5th of november,when guy fourks is burnt on bonfires.to celibrate his capture and burnning over his failed plot to blow up the king and government.would compare it to your senate and house of reprsentitivs and president all being blowen up all together on the day the president gives the state of the union address
It was surposidly a plot by the catholics to bring down the prodistent government
But you get nicer fireworks than us
Paulh

 

[almburr]

No, the date does not register with most British people, rather than a vague "oh that's American Indepdendence Day".

In History lessons, students are taught about the War of Independence, but not about a particular date, nor is it taught that it was a sad day in our history. More likely nowadays they will be taught that we should be ashamed of ever having been in charge over there and should hang our imperialist heads in shame........ and possibly make financial reparations too! We Brits are expected to be ashamed of our imperialistic past. (I wasn't alive then, so I feel no shame )

Without the Brits we wouldnt be here and be able to watch BBC America (the main channel I watch)

I love the British

 

[Vana]

Without the Brits we wouldnt be here and be able to watch BBC America (the main channel I watch)

I love the British

Awww thank you, we in turn love Americans and the USA as you can tell

Unfortunately unlike America as mentioned before we are now being "told" not to be proud of being British for fear of it upsetting people especially people who live her and are not British. Whats wrong with celebrating your nationality whether you feel British, English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish

 

[carolfoy]

I agree that its neither celebrated nor denegrated here. As others have said though it seems perfectly acceptable here to celebrate St Andrews, St Patricks and St Davids day, St Georges day seems to go unrecognised though!

 

[PoppyAnna]

I agree that its neither celebrated nor denegrated here. As others have said though it seems perfectly acceptable here to celebrate St Andrews, St Patricks and St Davids day, St Georges day seems to go unrecognised though!

This frustrates me also.
My DD frequently comes home and tells me about the way that her class recognises all different cultural dates in all different calendars, which is great for their wider education. However, St Georges day seems to be omitted

 

[wideeyes]

My DD school always does something for St Georges day and where red and white for the day.

 

[Clare D]

That's why I am English not British. I have friends who are Irish, Welsh and Scottish and they are allowed to be so I am English and I have pleasure in telling everybody that when on holiday in the States.
I was only having this conversation today with my friend who is Welsh and she agreed with me.
The do gooders are ruining this country for everybody

 

[WorknFires]

I understand completely Vana. We white Americans are made to feel bad because of slavery that we personally had no responsibility for and don't agree with. I live in the South where slavery was prevelant. I am white and my best friend is black. We don't always agree but agreeing to disagree is just part of being good friends, isn't it? But unfortunately we are about to pay for our ancestor's mistakes I'm afraid with our upcoming election where more people are interested in electing a man for the color of his skin than are interested in his political agenda.

It's a sad time in the USA.

On a positive note, I just returned from a weeks visit to Ireland (Dublin, Killarney, Shannon areas) and it was so lovely. What kind people! Everyone was so welcoming. I hope I'm able to return.

And the mushrooms... YUM!!!

Cheryl

 

[Beep]

I find certain aspects of history very interesting and one of them was all the events leading to 4th July. I can honestly say that i don;t remember anything about it from history lessons at school.

I don't feel any responsibility for events involving the UK in history as I wasn't personally involved and I think it is a shame that nations are made to feel ashamed of the past. I am not condoning past ideas and behaviour by people but I certainly don't want to be tarred with the same brush just because I am from a particular country.

I think that in the UK in particular we are seeing political correctness to a ridiculous level. I am also a firm believer that when the media report that 'they' are offended by certain things that 'they' don't actually exist. It is either the media whipping up a storm or the government trying to prevent a problem that they perceive may exist where it doesn't.

 

[Disney MAINEiac]

Without the Brits we wouldnt be here and be able to watch BBC America (the main channel I watch)

I love the British

couldn't agree more on both counts....first place i visit on first day at WDW is the rose and crown Yeah! bangers & mash....Top gear rules

God bless England and the USA and neither should ever feel any shame for its past as i strongly believe they did more good than harm overall for the world.

 

[Tricia819]

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Unfortunately unlike America as mentioned before we are now being "told" not to be proud of being British for fear of it upsetting people especially people who live her and are not British. Whats wrong with celebrating your nationality whether you feel British, English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish

No...it's pretty much the same here. We're suppose to be ashamed of how our government treated the native Americans, ashamed of our history of slavery, ashamed of the whole Iraq mess, ashamed of expecting people who come here to live to assimilate to some degree, ashamed of being Americans because the whole world views us as bullies who stick our noses where they don't belong, etc, etc.

The whole political correct thing is ridiculous here.

 

[PaulaSB12]

No...it's pretty much the same here. We're suppose to be ashamed of how our government treated the native Americans, ashamed of our history of slavery, ashamed of the whole Iraq mess, ashamed of expecting people who come here to live to assimilate to some degree, ashamed of being Americans because the whole world views us as bullies who stick our noses where they don't belong, etc, etc.

The whole political correct thing is ridiculous here.

If I ever won the lottery and moved to America I would assimilate to everything apart from coffee and peanut butter (where is a vomiting smilie whan you need it )

 

[Tricia819]

If I ever won the lottery and moved to America I would assimilate to everything apart from coffee and peanut butter (where is a vomiting smilie whan you need it )

LOL!! I get the coffee thing, I don't drink it either, but what's wrong with peanutbutter? Don't you guys eat peanut butter on the other side of the pond? Guess if I ever bring the kiddies for a visit I'll have to bring my own. My son LIVES on peanut butter and jelly.

I don't think people need to assimilate to everything. It's the thing I LOVE about WS is seeing and talking to all the people from all over the world. One of the best parts of living here is all the great contributions other cultures have made to ours. However, for example, if I were to move to Italy I would never expect everyone to speak or learn to speak English and I would immediately learn to speak Italian. Here you can take the U.S. citizenship test in spanish. I know there isn't a "official" language here in the states, but we are a predominantly english speaking country. Instead, it seems to be coming expected that everyone else learn spanish. See, I'm already learning, "Pourfavor mentenga si jalijandro de las feuentas." I know I didn't spell any of that right, I took French in highschool. (Year 9-12, I think, to you Brits.)

 

[Snowy-girls]

God bless England and the USA and neither should ever feel any shame for its past as i strongly believe they did more good than harm overall for the world.

.x.


And as for peanut butter yuck ,but my hubby loves the stuff.Every week in Asda(you're Walmart)i have to buy 2 Reeses Nutrageous bars+2 packs of Reeces Peanut butter cups.
My Nan loves a crunchy peanut butter and chopped banana sandwich .x.

 

[almburr]

Do Brits drink ice tea,or just hot tea?

 

[Snowy-girls]

Do Brits drink ice tea,or just hot tea?

I love normal hot tea,my Nan loves lemon iced tea.x.

 

[Goofyish]

Hot tea with milk

Very rarely see iced tea.

 

[~Piglet~]

Do Brits drink ice tea,or just hot tea?

A hot tea with plenty of colour to it, there's nothing worse than tea that looks like dishwater

I've never tried iced tea, maybe if the weather was warmer....